[blkgatsby]

One thing that I have trouble with is closing. I have NO problems with talking to girls, approaching, etc...but I absolutely suck ass when it comes time to get the number. It's something that I always struggled with since IDK, highschool..?

Ideas?

[MidniteSpecial]

Ask to use her phone and then call yourself from her phone with your ringer still on.

[baristabanger]

As you grab for
your phone
"You seem kinda cool"
Pull out phone
"Put your number in here and we'll hang out soon"
I do it all the time.

[LeBeau]

(01-22-2014 12:44 AM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

One thing that I have trouble with is closing. I have NO problems with talking to girls, approaching, etc...but I absolutely suck ass when it comes time to get the number. It's something that I always struggled with since IDK, highschool..?

Ideas?

...

[OMYG]

When you approach your goal is to make her feel comfortable enough for both of you as if your talking to an old friend. Once you get to that level and if your good at reading the situation, her body language and the way she is talking to you then it is only natural to ask for her number.

When I started approaching I fragmented my learning so to speak. For example after reading Day Bang by Roosh I first focused on the cold approach and elderly openers. I did a substantial amount of approaches and some girls gave me clear signs and so on and a couple times I would get into deep conversations. Once I did enough approaches and the approach anxiety wasn't as harsh then I focused on the conversational part of the approach and building attraction and reading signs of interest, by this point I would hardly think about the approach because it was almost set on auto pilot. After I did another chunk of approaches then I focused on closing. So to recap the approach portion I had covered, my conversational skills and reading body language skills improved in the process as well. By the time I wanted to master the close I noticed that it came almost natural at least with girls that really showed interest, it was almost like a "Why don't I have your phone number?" type of feeling, at least that's how i see it and how I dealt with it. Maybe if you work in your conversational skills and/or making her feel more comfortable then the close might come natural.

[blkgatsby]

Thanks guys. Now, how would I interpret body language? Say I'm chatting it up with a booth babe as an extreme example or even a cute waitress. How would I know that's she's being receptive, instead of just being "nice" because it's her job....? That's another part that I'm crappy at.

[eradicator]

(01-28-2014 04:38 AM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

Thanks guys. Now, how would I interpret body language? Say I'm chatting it up with a booth babe as an extreme example or even a cute waitress. How would I know that's she's being receptive, instead of just being "nice" because it's her job....? That's another part that I'm crappy at.

There is no 100% way to tell because she might just be flirting with you as part of her job, but you have to learn to pick up on the obvious physical cues from what she is doing with her voice, eyes, and smile.

If you are picking up on real signs of awkward sexual tension, then you are on the right track generally.

Also, I honestly thought this would be yet another thread about last minute resistance, as closing also means getting the bang.

[AneroidOcean]

(01-28-2014 04:38 AM)blkgatsby Wrote:  

Thanks guys. Now, how would I interpret body language? Say I'm chatting it up with a booth babe as an extreme example or even a cute waitress. How would I know that's she's being receptive, instead of just being "nice" because it's her job....? That's another part that I'm crappy at.

I'm not discouraging you from approaching a cute waitress, or a booth babe/hired gun type girl, but if your reading of body language is weak, this is probably the worst example. Go read up on some of the threads here on body language:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-29210.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14523.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-22175.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11877.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11938.html

The easiest way to start picking up on body language is by interacting with females (and males) EVERYWHERE. Learn to be calm, observant, and deliberate and you'll start picking up on all kinds of body language. Learning body language will help you everywhere in life as what we say non-verbally is more than we say with our words.

Another way to learn body language is to people watch! I enjoy people watching, especially if I'm with someone so that we can make up stories about what people are talking about or what is about to happen.

As for getting the number of a girl, I had a HUGE CRIPPLING fear of rejection throughout high school and even beyond. It's all in your head. Flip the script. Say a girl is digging you, you're talking to her, she happens to ask you to join her for some cool event and you decline. Should she be hurt? Should she be depressed? Should she give up and not want to flirt with other dudes because you don't happen to find her attractive/like her? No! Why should it be any different for you? If a girl doesn't choose you it CAN be part of your approach, but beyond that she may just not prefer you. That's not anything to get worked up about.

You need to get her laughing/smiling/flirting, then LEAD the interaction towards her doing something fun with you and then giving you her number for LOGISTICS. The close is really just getting her into having fun with you and suggesting/telling her that you two will get together in the future for MORE fun because you or both of you are too busy right now. The number is just logistics. If she doesn't give it to you, it means she wasn't attracted enough. Plain and simple.

Failure is just practice for success. A girl declining you isn't even necessarily a failure on your part, just keep on practicing and getting better. Soon, you'll already know if a girl is going to be receptive to your advances and if you get your shit together enough you'll get to that point where you KNOW a girl is into you before you even say anything and you know that all you have to do is not fuck it up...

[daddysanchez]

Yeah bro just take baristabanger's advice. That's my go-to. Say "you seem cool. Put ur number in my phone." I tend to keep my interactionns about five minutes long. Once u get it just leave and get some more numbers and when u see her again u can escalate or sumn. But tbh I'm new to the game so I think my method will need an upgrade soon but it works great for now.