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Iran Datasheet
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I noticed that there isn't too much info about Iran in this forum so I thought I could contribute with my experiences even though my trip took place in September 2012.

Prepare for a pretty long post.

Background.
After been reading so much bad and negative stuff about Iran in Western media. I decided to go and look myself how Iran and Persian people really are. I've always been interested about getting under the skin in different cultures so I figured Iran was a interesting place to check out. I had no idea what would be waiting for me

Visas.
Very easy for me. I just printed out the visa application and filled it in and gave it to a friend in Helsinki who took it to the Iranian embassy. Four days later it was ready for a cost of 45€.

Getting in.
Depends where you are coming from. The easy way is flying in from Moscow or Istanbul. But maybe the most popular way for travellers is to take a bus from somewhere in Turkey. Buses departs daily all the way from Istanbul to Tabriz in Western Iran. It takes about 25 hours and costs about 50-60€.

However, MY way to enter was a little bit more unique since I took a bus from Erbil in Iraq.
It was a lot of hassle and nobody spoke English and I didn't even know if I was on the right bus before we came to the border. The border itself was in the middle of the desert containing of just a few steel barracks and high steel fences. The immigration process was chaotic but quite straight forward. I had to wait almost three hours at the border before the Iranian border guards had checked every inch of the bus. There were so many vehicles coming and going so I needed to stay focused all the time so I didn't miss my bus.
Well, after a lot of waiting I finally got my Iranian stamp and I had entered Iran.
Woo-fucking hoo.
And yes, they didn't even check my bags which annoyed me a lot. I threw away 2 litres of strong booze on the Iraqi side in fear of Iranian border guards would find it.
Damn.

Well, after the border the trip continued to some village not far away.There they had me to get out of the bus with my bags and I didn't know what the fuck was going on, after some body language sessions they explained that a taxi will take me to the city called Umria. The taxi driver gave me one of the scariest rides in my life.
The driving culture in Iran is by far the worst I've seen in any countries. Such things as overtaking when driving uphill is standard.

Anyway. At the bus station in Umria I had some problems to change money into Iranian rials and even more problems to find a bus to Tabriz.
After all the hassle I got on the bus to Tabriz. I got a lot of attention there, Iranian girls where giggling and everybody was giving me smiles and high fives.
At midnight I finally arrived to Tabriz where my CS host where waiting for me.
I'm not usually a big fan of CS but in countries like Iran it's very convenient to begin your trip with.

Money. No ATM's are working for international bankcards due to the economic sanctions. You need to bring cash and remember to ONLY exchange your money with black market guys. If you go to a bank you will get 50% less for your dollars or euros. However these black market guys never tried to rip me off. Instead they almost competed with each other to buy my euros since the rial was very unstable at the moment.

Costs.
In September 2012 the rial was collapsing. Everything was ridiculously cheap.
Black market exchangers were fighting to but my euros.
Example

Hotel for 15€
Tasty meal for 1€
Pack of smokes 0,50€
Transportation so cheap so it doesn't even count.

But, I admit I'm no expert in this category since people were offering me places to stay and offered me food everywhere. I think I hardly spent 200€ during my month in Iran.


Transportation.
I only used buses and taxis. VIP buses in Iran is of high quality, the country that can maybe compete in comfort is Turkey. The buses are very cheap and comfortable, it's almost like flying business class. They have a waitress who's serving you cold drinks and snacks. I recall I payed 3-5€ for a 8-10 hour bustrip.

In cities shared black taxis are the way to go, for those who are familiar how people do in Russia it's almost the same thing in Iran. You just go to the side of the street and raise your hand and somebody will pull over. These shared taxis are very cheap but it's difficult to use them if you don't speak Farsi or have a Iranian friend with you. Normal taxis are also available. They are also cheap and drivers never tried to rip me off. Communication is the only problem.

People.
Hands down the most friendliest and most hospital people I've ever met in the 53 countries I've been in. The myth and stereotype about fanatic Muslims couldn't be more far from the truth. In fact I didn't meet really anyone who was religious.
They are just regular johns like in any other country.
Iranian people loves Americans and Europeans, they regard themselves also as a Western country and not as an Middle Eastern. They just have fucked up a Islamic regime controlling their country. Iranians really dislike Arabs. And they are looking down on Afghan's and Pakistanis. I didn't hear anyone saying anything bad about Israel or Jews, but many people are very afraid that Israel will attack them.

The English level is sparingly good since people are highly educated, especially girls. I was stopped all the time by random people who wanted to speak English and they are really good. Especially the youth. They are clever people and they are well aware about what's happening in the world even if the government is trying their best to keep them isolated.

Another memorable thing is that Couchsurfing is very popular in Iran, and it's strange that the website is not even blocked because hosting foreigners is illegal.
First I was intending to use CS but later I discovered it's not even necessary. You just have to shop in a city with your bag and people will come to you and invite you to be their guest or for dinner. This will definitely happen. Girls will also invite you, which was an surprise to me.

Girls.
Persian women has a reputation to be very pretty. It's indeed true but I think that's exaggerated. Plastic surgeries are cheap and therefore also very common. Especially nose surgeries are popular since the face is the only visible part of their body so that's why all focus is put on the face.
Iranian girls are also one of the biggest consumers of cosmetics in the world. For my taste they are using it way too much.

Their attitude is quite exotic and flirty, as a tall white guy I was approached all the time. They are very interested of speaking with foreigners and apparently also to tease them.
A few times when I was sitting in park and chatting with some girl the police officers with green uniforms showed up. These are the guys who are watching the women that they dress right and etc.
They usually call the girl over and ask who you are, and what's your relationship, if you have touched each other and if her parents are aware of this meeting and so on.

Another time a girl invited me to her place and I was caught by surprise and asked her if she's living alone.

- No, I'm living with my father.
- But will he think it's OK if I'm coming over to your place?
- Yeah, no problem. He'll be glad to meet you.

And true it was, the father met me and he treated me very respectfully.
However, then we went inside her room, which was right next to the living room.
Immediately she threw away her scarf, her shirt, until she was dressed in a very tight tank top and ultra short jeans shorts. Her boobs was almost exp loading out of that top and I got a rock hard boner. However. Nothing happened, this was just one big Iranian teasing show from the beginning to the end. She knew I was horny and she knew we couldn't do anything with her father next to us and she played me accordingly, I tried to get in her pants with every move but her resistance was too strong. We smoked some opium and then I went out with a pair of aching blue balls.
I didn't get my Iranian flag, but I got the Japanese flag as a surprise bonus.

Alcohol
Everything is illegal, consuming, selling,bars etc. But there are some ways to find booze for thirsty men,
You need to go to a bazaar or a shop and find where the Jewish businessmen are. They usually sits on some moonshine that they happily sell to foreigners.
It's also possible to ask some youngsters and they maybe can get you some homemade wine, but that usually taste like shit but it will get you drunk.
If you're lucky you can also find some contraband whisky that's smuggled in from Dubai, but that's expensive as hell.

The alcohol laws are strict to say the least.
One of my friends in Tehran had a bottle of Johnny Walker in his bag when the police stopped him. They took him to jail, had him sit for 5 days and on the last day they called over his mother and all his sisters to watch him being whipped by two officers.

Drugs.
This surprise me a lot. Since alcohol use is banned many people use other drugs.
People smoke opium like chimneys. A lot of people are addicted to opium in Iran.
My first host in Iran was quite a memorable experience.

First of all it was a girl. We met in the street and we went to her flat. She took off her scarf and we sat down in the sofa and chitchatted and then she asked.
- Do you smoke?
- You mean cigarettes?
- Well yeah, but do you smoke something else?
- Weed?
- hmf. Have you ever tried opium?
- No.
- Wanna try?
- Yeah, why not?

Then some of her friends came over and we sat down in the kitchen and smoking opium and drinking tea for about 5-6 House and we had a good time.
Before finishing the night she asked: So do you think we are terrorists?
Great first day in Iran.

However, weed and opium is widely available.
90 % of the times I got invited to a house we smoked opium.
Good I didn't spend more than four weeks in Iran because I think was getting addicted of opium.

Food.
Iranian cuisine is tasty. If you're a vegetarian or a vegan you'll get no sympathy in Iran. A lot of kebabs and tasty rice and meat dishes are widely available.
Chicken,beef and camel mostly.
Iranians are crazy about sweets, and it almost fucked my stomach up. They offer sweet cakes, donuts and a stuff to you all the time.
An ice cream or milkshake will cost you maybe 0,30€ from a street vendor.

Nightlife.
There are no clubs or bars in Iran. So the nightlife is limited to two options.
Sitting at cafes and smoking shisha and drinking tea which is a giant sausage fest because there are only guys out. The second option is to get some friends and be invited to a private party in some flat. There everything can happen because people can't let loose outside. Only in cars or in their homes.

Notable things.
- Parks are super clean without any dogshit. Dogs are illegal in Iran.
- Women hang out in groups in public, in other Islamic countries you hardly see any women in the streets.
- Parabol antennas are illegal, if you're looking on rooftops you can see all kinds of creative ways of hiding parabols.
- Women are more educated than men.
- Men need to serve 24 months in the army before to be able to apply for a passport.
- Many people are not even Muslims.
- Turkish is as widely spoken as Farsi but Farsi is the only official language.
- You can't see any American, European or Japanese or Korean products because of the economic sanctions. If you still see something, it's contraband from Dubai.
- 99% of the cars are old Peugeot's.
- Guys are not allowed to wear shorts in public.


Conclusion.
All in all I had a great time in Iran. I didn't get laid but chasing pussy wasn't the main reason for me going to Iran. I learned a lot of stuff and met some cool people which I'm having contact with still today. It definitely enriched my travels and my life.

Places I visited. I try to keep it short, ask me if you want more detailed or specific information about these places.

Tabriz. In the Northeast Iran, pretty nice city but nothing really special. People who live in Tabriz are famous for their whiter skin and they are regarded as the most beautiful people in Iran.

Tehran.
A gigantic monster hellhole of concrete. What I remember most of Tehran is there is almost nothing green there, only concrete and asphalt. The traffic is the most dangerous and relentless I've ever seen. I can assure you it's worse than India and Pakistan. The drivers don't respect green light or pedestrians and they drive fast as fuck. Crossing a roads in Tehran is like playing Russian roulette.
Iran has 25000 death victims from traffic every year.

Isfahan.
This is a cool city with a lot of very oldschool buildings and stuff to check out. If you're into old buildings this city's gigantic mosques will blow you away.

Shiraz.
This is perhaps the coolest one in Iran. Nice and pretty city with a lot of parks and oldschool buildings. Has maybe the most things to see. From this place I also took a daytrip to the famous Persepolis, massive but stillI found it disappointing.

Yazd.
This was in the middle of the desert, hot as hell. Here CS'd for free at a nice hotel.
But boring place, the mosques really started to make me tired. But I enjoyed a lot of camel steak here. Delicious.

Kerman.
I can't recommend coming to Kerman, I went here to check out the Dah e Lut desert. One of the hottest places on earth. The city itself is just plain boring. A lot of old buildings and monuments but at this point I couldn't care less.

Zahedan.
Last stop before crossing the border to Pakistan.
Here is actually foreigners not allowed on the street because somebody claim it's too dangerous. However I bumped into some locals who drove me around and showed the city and took me to some shisha places where we could chill out in peace.

Any further questions, feel free to ask.
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Outside the former American Embassy in Tehran
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Wow, what a datasheet! From a complete foreigner, nonetheless. I think most observations are accurate but a few are off-base, perhaps due to small sample size of experience (for example: Turkish is not nearly as widely spoken as Persian in Iran. It is only semi-widely spoken in the North).

Dead right about the terrifying driving, Tehran concrete hell-hole and Iranians' extreme hospitality. Too bad you didn't get the flag though--I'm confident you would get it on a second trip.

Regardless, +1 from me.
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Chaos:

I'm surprised opiates and weed are so widely available. I thought the death penalty applied for dealing, and severe prison sentences for possession.
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Quote: (01-13-2014 10:56 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Chaos:

I'm surprised opiates and weed are so widely available. I thought the death penalty applied for dealing, and severe prison sentences for possession.

Police are super corrupt in Iran. I was there during the same time as Chaos and a small bribe usually solves the situation. In some districts of Tehran and even in smaller towns you can see people smoking opium openly while prostitutes wait for their johns.

Iran is awesome and this datasheet nails it. Thanks.
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Quote: (01-13-2014 10:56 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Chaos:

I'm surprised opiates and weed are so widely available. I thought the death penalty applied for dealing, and severe prison sentences for possession.

Maybe it does, I have no idea about how harsh the penalties are. I only know that a shitload of people are addicted to opium.
People told me also that dirt cheap ice is widely availible on the streets but I don't know anything about that.
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Much like the USSR, the Iranian people are not our enemies. Also, it's funny how a country that's so repressive in so many ways has such a massive drug problem.

If you're not fucking her, someone else is.
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The answer is Afghanistan.
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My questions:

1. What (if any) are the travel restrictions for US citizens to Iran?

2. Can you actually close in Iran? I've heard news stories of foreigners having premarital sex with Iranian girls and getting arrested for premarital sex.

3. Tell me a little about the Shia concept of "temporary marriage"....I've heard a lot of students do this. Doable for foreigners?
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Great report. Much appreciated!
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Quote: (01-13-2014 01:49 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My questions:

1. What (if any) are the travel restrictions for US citizens to Iran?

From what I got, Americans can only travel the country if you book a guided tour and have a fixed itinerary. Wikitravel says: "US citizens can apply for a visa at the Iranian Interest Section of the Pakistani Embassy in Washington. However, US citizens must have an MFA-approved guide to accompany them for the entire trip and must have an exact itinerary. This generally precludes crossing into Iran at any border, as your guide would have to meet you at the border. Tour guides, however, are generally friendly to Americans, understand the process, and can work with you to set up a custom itinerary for you."

Yanks who wanna move around freely and meet some girls will have a tough time to do as they please. I met one American, though, who has been to Iran on such a tour and he said his guide was not always around and things were rather relaxed in that regard. US-Iran Relations are improving now but I guess it should take a while until you guys will have a new embassy and no travel restrictions.

When I was in Iran, I was never stopped by the police and asked for my passport, btw.

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2. Can you actually close in Iran? I've heard news stories of foreigners having premarital sex with Iranian girls and getting arrested for premarital sex.

I think one of Naughty nomad's mates got the lay in Iran. There is a certain danger that authorities might discover your fling but afaik for a proper trial against you and the girl several male witnesses are necessary under Sharia law. Shit like this happens to Iranians, too, but judging by the conversations I had with young people, it's rare. There is simply not enough police and too much corruption for the regime being able to thoroughly push through their religious agenda. The main obstacle for getting laid would rather be social mores, cockblocking friends/relatives and logistics. Looking back, I was a bit too respectful toward the law and could have been more aggressive with girls, but alas, I was there in my pre-game days.

That being said, the chance that you bring the girl into serious trouble is higher than you getting arrested, I suppose.

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3. Tell me a little about the Shia concept of "temporary marriage"....I've heard a lot of students do this. Doable for foreigners?

Forget it, it's only applicable for Muslim men marrying a Christian, Jewish or Muslim woman. I'm not sure about this, but I think the dude has to be married for that as well.
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Quintus Curtius,

Not to steal any thunder from Chaos's fantastic thread, but you might want to also check out my data-sheet on Tehran and ensuing comments which discuss your questions #2 and #3.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-14854.html
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Quote: (01-13-2014 01:49 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My questions:

1. What (if any) are the travel restrictions for US citizens to Iran?

2. Can you actually close in Iran? I've heard news stories of foreigners having premarital sex with Iranian girls and getting arrested for premarital sex.

3. Tell me a little about the Shia concept of "temporary marriage"....I've heard a lot of students do this. Doable for foreigners?

1. Not sure about what the current situation is like, but in 2012 all US passport holders needed to have booked a guided tour. By other words impossible for them to travel independently. I'm quite sure the situation hasn't changed.

2. I think those stories are mostly myths but it's definitely possible to close. Not the easiest, but possible.
Logistics is definitely the biggest problem, I don't know if even hotels allow you to bring guests. It's not common for Iranians to own or rent a flat before marriage so until that they mostly live with their parents. Having your own flat would solve it.

3. People told me it's possible for foreigners but it's very rare. Personally I don't know much about it. Maybe someone else here have deeper knowledge about this.
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Quote: (01-13-2014 10:56 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Chaos:

I'm surprised opiates and weed are so widely available. I thought the death penalty applied for dealing, and severe prison sentences for possession.

Because it favors the stability of the current government. Young, educated people are the only threat. But they consume these easily available drugs, so they don't even think of resisting. 25% of youth dependence speaks for itself.
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If you're a US Citizen, you can't do independent travel to mainland Iran. You have to arrange your trip through a government-approved travel agent.

However, you can travel effortlessly to Kish Island, which is an island that belongs to Iran off the mainland and is located in the Persian Gulf. The visa is issued upon arrival at the airport. Easy flights from Dubai. Very popular tourist destination.

Here's the intel: http://www.visahunter.com/visa/iran/

As for Iran, many people are often surprised to learn that only half the population is actually Persian. It is a very multicultural country. Here is a video that breaks it down.




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Quote: (01-13-2014 03:53 PM)Puck21 Wrote:  

Quote: (01-13-2014 10:56 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Chaos:

I'm surprised opiates and weed are so widely available. I thought the death penalty applied for dealing, and severe prison sentences for possession.

Because it favors the stability of the current government. Young, educated people are the only threat. But they consume these easily available drugs, so they don't even think of resisting. 25% of youth dependence speaks for itself.

In Islamic countries alcohol is banned - people have to have fun somehow right? There's also a massive drugs problem in Pakistan. Afghanistan is between both countries.

This happened a while ago, so be careful you don't get caught when going for the bang in Iran. Iran frees German businessman

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A German businessman is free to leave Iran after he was convicted and fined for insulting a police officer, almost a year after he was acquitted of having illicit sex with an Iranian woman.

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Mr Hofer had spent nearly two years in jail in Tehran on sex charges, but was later charged with insulting and resisting a police officer.

The businessman was sentenced to death in January 1998, after being found guilty of having illicit relations with an Iranian Muslim woman.

In Iranian law, sex outside marriage is punishable by flogging, but it becomes a capital offence if the man is not a Muslim.

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One appeal, that Mr Hofer had in fact converted to Islam before having sex, was turned down. However, the Iranian Supreme Court quashed the death sentence and ordered a retrial.

In September 1999, Mr Hofer did have to pay $23,000 to avoid a flogging passed down by one judge.

He was eventually acquitted for lack of evidence.

A British-Indian friend of mine worked in Tokyo for 3 months and loved it - says he got a lot of pussy there.

He was then sent to Iran for 3 months and hated it there. He said the Iranians didn't even try to hide the fact that they were spying on him. He said there was a guy following him around most of the time.

People were nice to him when they assumed he was from India, but when he said that he was British their attitude changed. Apparently Iranians are not too fond of the British.

He said the women in Iran were hot, but he didn't dare try anything because he was too scared.

When he got back to UK his company wanted to send him to Iran again, he quit his job.

This was nearly 10 years ago, and things are probably different now.


Quote: (01-13-2014 04:15 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

As for Iran, many people are often surprised to learn that only half the population is actually Persian. It is a very multicultural country. Here is a video that breaks it down.

There's a lot non-Persian Iranians in Los Angeles county and Glendale - mostly Armenians. I don't know whether Jews from Iran are considered Persian or not, but they're one of the biggest communities in Beverly Hills.
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Quote: (01-13-2014 03:53 PM)Puck21 Wrote:  

Quote: (01-13-2014 10:56 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Chaos:

I'm surprised opiates and weed are so widely available. I thought the death penalty applied for dealing, and severe prison sentences for possession.

Because it favors the stability of the current government. Young, educated people are the only threat. But they consume these easily available drugs, so they don't even think of resisting. 25% of youth dependence speaks for itself.

In Islamic countries alcohol is banned - people have to have fun somehow right? There's also a massive drugs problem in Pakistan. Afghanistan is between both countries.

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Comparing Pakistan to Iran is not accurate here in my opinion. Pakistan has more severe problems to deal with, not only speaking of the Taliban.

Yes, they got to have fun somehow, but that is exactly my point. Iran has the capacity to at least stem some of that enormous drug trafficking. Yet the government doesn't. The Iranian Government does many of these things to keep the population under control, not fucking everything up completely for everyone . Many young people say "It actually isn't that bad, you can do this, you can do that". You have to go to Iran yourself and experience the shit that is going on in the country.
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Great writeup, quite true. Most of my family lived in Iran working for the US Govt. for some time. It was much better for foreigners when the Shah was in power. Great place, great society, the fundamentalist Shia aspect just makes everything suck a little bit though. A lot of Muslim girls will be against premarital sex, etc. due to religion and the culture. Slowly and slowly, the society is beginning to westernize again.
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Quote: (01-13-2014 06:11 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

Quote: (01-13-2014 04:15 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

As for Iran, many people are often surprised to learn that only half the population is actually Persian. It is a very multicultural country. Here is a video that breaks it down.

There's a lot non-Persian Iranians in Los Angeles county and Glendale - mostly Armenians. I don't know whether Jews from Iran are considered Persian or not, but they're one of the biggest communities in Beverly Hills.


One of my best friends actually is an Iranian-born Armenian. Wicked smart guy. His family lived in Iran for like 500 years but never mixed with non-Armenians surprisingly. They say of the Armenian diaspora in the US, which is huge, the ones from Iran are the most affluent and assimilate easier than other groups. I got that impression when I met his family.

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A 1990 University of California, Los Angeles study showed that by education and occupation, native-born and Iranian-born Armenians "tend to have the highest socioeconomic status...

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Concerning "temporary marriage", there is this documentary that I recommend to watch. I found it pretty sad and disturbing at times, but it's a very interesting glimpse into parts of Iranian society that you rarely see elsewhere.




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Thanks for this one Chaos.
Just made me even more sure that I should travel to Iran.
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This is a top datasheet!
Chaos, you have visited some of the most interesting places.

I think I'd apply for an NZ passport as my father is a New-Zealander before I visited Iran and neighboring countries. Would probably help me a hell of alot more than a British passport.
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Which is the most open minded, cosmopolitan, liberal, Western city in Iran? Maybe the capital. And besides that?

Oh, let me not forget: some of you here might prefer more traditional values against Western, liberal ones.
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Quote: (03-19-2016 07:18 AM)eye Wrote:  

Which is the most open minded, cosmopolitan, liberal, Western city in Iran? Maybe the capital. And besides that?

Oh, let me not forget: some of you here might prefer more traditional values against Western, liberal ones.

Large student population: Tehran, Isfahan, Tabriz. Most girls have decent command of English or even French.
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To all those who are passport holders of countries being part of the US Visa Waiver Program: Remember that since the beginning of this year you'll render yourself ineligible for the Program once you travel to Iran (and a few other countries, see the link below). There are rumours on the net that this even applies for transit on Iranian airports without passing through immigration (entering the country). Current valid ESTAs are becoming invalid too.

Official statement for those who want to know more.
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Excellent datasheet. I am an Iranian and I would say your report is very honest and true. But I have to admit your friend was a bit unlucky on the booze side. I've been arrested a couple a times and a £3 to £5 bribe will chuck the police away.

I'm going back to Iran myself after 10 years on May / June 2016 and will try to update the datasheet.

Cheers
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