[PoosyWrecker]

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Chinese food, pretty much all over China is the same, it sucks, its disgusting and there is very little redeemable about it. The Chinese food restaurants in North America don't serve this slop k? Most of that food is VIETNAMESE... whomever told you that American food is Catonese food is a liar. I went to Guangzhou thinking the exact same thing and when I dug into a Cantonese buffet I was quickly brought up to speed. Mostly everything here is made exclusively out of salt... its like munching on blocks of salt. I use to love eating American Chinese food... I would go to a buffet every week, sometimes twice or three times. I HATE Chinese food in China with a passion, its oily, salty, at times slimey, and almost always DISGUSTING. The taste varies from gross to inedible, I think I can count on one hand the number of dishes I can eat after visiting 10 or so provinces. They use something here called GUTTER OIL to cook it with, google that.

Damn this is the first time I've heard Chinese food described in such harsh terms. What American Chinese buffets did you use to go to?

[Chewbacon]

(12-13-2013 02:41 AM)PoosyWrecker Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Chinese food, pretty much all over China is the same, it sucks, its disgusting and there is very little redeemable about it. The Chinese food restaurants in North America don't serve this slop k? Most of that food is VIETNAMESE... whomever told you that American food is Catonese food is a liar. I went to Guangzhou thinking the exact same thing and when I dug into a Cantonese buffet I was quickly brought up to speed. Mostly everything here is made exclusively out of salt... its like munching on blocks of salt. I use to love eating American Chinese food... I would go to a buffet every week, sometimes twice or three times. I HATE Chinese food in China with a passion, its oily, salty, at times slimey, and almost always DISGUSTING. The taste varies from gross to inedible, I think I can count on one hand the number of dishes I can eat after visiting 10 or so provinces. They use something here called GUTTER OIL to cook it with, google that.

Damn this is the first time I've heard Chinese food described in such harsh terms. What American Chinese buffets did you use to go to?

The irony is that most Chinese people consider American Chinese food to be utter trash. I'm not even sure you can find white people these days who will defend Chinese buffet food. Badworld, i think you are alone here. Anthony Bourdain seems to love chinese food, and I trust him to be correct.

[MidWest]

Kuddos on American Chinese buffets. They are bomb. You have to have the fake stuff every once in a while.




Chicken on a stick is the best.

[Chewbacon]

(12-13-2013 03:10 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

Kuddos on American Chinese buffets. They are bomb. You have to have the fake stuff every once in a while.




Chicken on a stick is the best.

admittedly i love general tso's chicken.

[bacon]

(12-13-2013 02:41 AM)PoosyWrecker Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

They use something here called GUTTER OIL to cook it with, google that.

Damn this is the first time I've heard Chinese food described in such harsh terms.

[DVY]

Theres a world of difference between Chinese-American food and Chinese food that regular chinese eat.

I dont think people in this thread seem to understand that. Bourdain only visited the top/top Chinese restaurants or the famous spots (which are all catered towards westerners and rich Chinese)

[Menace]

I had very good Chinese food in Beijing, especially in Ho Hai. This may well be food for foreigners or wealthy. If "real" Chinese food is the crap peasants eat, then I don't want that food.

[WalterBlack]

Regarding Chinese food - I ate some really good stuff in Shenzhen, Dongguan and Hong Kong, but I ate at only high end places. It wasn't oily at all.

I’m not Chinese, but I have close FOB Chinese and ABC friends. They all hate Panda Express and we never go to eat out at Americanised Chinese places. We usually go to places east of Los Angeles like Monterrey Park, Alhambra and San Gabriel for genuine Chinese food.

It's good to know about genuine Chinese food...some Chinese women love their food and love hearing people talk about it.

Anytime I hear somebody say they love Panda Express, the first thing that goes into my mind is that this person doesn't know Chinese food.

Hygiene is an issue in many countries - I've seen some pretty nasty places in Morocco, Thailand and India; I never ate street food in any of those countries.

[Chewbacon]

Has anyone had stinky tofu?

hahahahahaha. try it.

[MidWest]

(12-13-2013 09:18 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

Has anyone had stinky tofu?

hahahahahaha. try it.

I think ill pass. But thanks.

[BadWolf]

OK, here's an update. I have the opportunity to teach in Beijing at several branches of a language center. I've narrowed it down to Wudaokou or the one very close to Sanlitun Street. From experience, which is the better scene? I'm partial to the college vibe of Wudaokou, but Sanlitun sounds fantastic as well. Thoughts?

It doesn't matter, they'll move you around as they see fit.

I wouldn't work in BJ for under 30k, just be aware that BJ is the place they are talking about the air causing cancer.

[paninaro]

(12-13-2013 01:16 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  

OK, here's an update. I have the opportunity to teach in Beijing at several branches of a language center. I've narrowed it down to Wudaokou or the one very close to Sanlitun Street. From experience, which is the better scene? I'm partial to the college vibe of Wudaokou, but Sanlitun sounds fantastic as well. Thoughts?

I've been to Beijing a few times, but only on my most recent trip did I actually get to go by Sanlitun. It was OK, but nothing amazing (admittedly, I was there on a Monday night). Also it was a bit of a walk from the nearest subway station (and I passed a lot embassies on the way = high rent neighborhood?).

I don't think you necessarily need to be near there from a logistics standpoint. Taxis are cheap and plentiful if you need to bring someone back to your place.

[MidWest]

(12-13-2013 11:07 AM)bacon Wrote:  

(12-13-2013 02:41 AM)PoosyWrecker Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

They use something here called GUTTER OIL to cook it with, google that.

Damn this is the first time I've heard Chinese food described in such harsh terms.

Are f'king kidding me? Me having have had cancer in the past has made me very health conscious. China was a destination I have been looking at for years to teach English in. Now i'm not so sure. That's sick and nasty. I'm mind blown.

[clever alias]

Chinese food is good if you avoid shitty 小吃 places where they cover it in grease and oil, at that point you might as well be eating mcdonalds.
Also, good chinese food usually requires more than one person. You order food for the table, not just for yourself. I love splitting some stir fried eggplant, pulled cabbage, and some egg/tomato, but you really can't order that all for yourself.

[Ilikekane]

You make some valid and good points...but you also make some retarded ones.

I've been in China for 5 years and agree that some things suck, and some things are great, the great out weigh the suckiness, otherwise i wouldn't still be here.

firstly, badwolf:

Are you this guy?

http://asiandatingmonthly.com/5-things-t...ese-girls/

at the bottom there is a guy who posted some pretty negative stuff about China...sounds kinda the same as you (I wrote the original article)

Secondly,

I'd like to talk about what you wrote, as i feel you're giving a kinda skewed perception of China.

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Having lived in alot of the major cities here and every one that you've mentioned so far I will tell you this. Your first year its nearly impossible to find a job in the south without some experience. So if you are smart you'll go up to XINJIANG - Urumqi, for your first stint. Join EF or Pattison or some bullsh1t up there. Corporate schools usually suck ass but you'll get your experience that you need teaching kids, it is very very important that you learn to teach children, discipline and control them. You will be judged on your ability to control a classroom and get respect from them. Watch as many 'Dog Trainer/Whisperer' type shows as you can find on TV because its the exact same thing when you are teaching kids. A good role model would Seargent Hartman from Full Metal Jacket, I'm NOT kidding.

1. I started in Shanghai, teaching at an after school/weekend English training program for kids at 10k a month, 5 years before.

Its still possible to do this and not necessary to stay in some back water out of the way place (although I think for food Urumqi would be unfuckingbelievable!).

Teaching kids - yeah, its dancing monkey time, not actually about education.

What you've said here is really good.....except the full metal jacket part.....

With kids - have fun with them, reward them for good behavior and let them clearly know the rules, over and over again, and you will be fine.

Kids need constant reminding of the rules, as they are very simple minded.

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Don't get roped into this bs about how the kids are cute and the people are friendly 'and want to learn english', thats pure BS. The kids are little bastards and will try and make your life a living hell if you don't know how to deal with them. The adults will do their best to stab you in the back after the initial 'honeymoon' period is over. You must realize that you are an entertainer, this is not 'true' teaching, if there even is such a thing. If you become boring to the students, you will be replaced, period. Game can only take you so far when teaching adults and you will be endlessly cockblocked by manginas and white knights, for some reason, whom are all attracted to teaching and think its some sort of prestigious career choice. You will rarely make friends unless you are very PC or gay friendly, there are alot of feminists here as their degrees are useless for pretty much everything else. There are three types of Western women in China.

The majority of kids you will meet will be ok, there will be a certain bunch who behave like wild animals and will do things that will disgust you beyond belief, smaller cities are the worst.....bigger cities the kids are more civilised...

About teaching, you're pretty on point.

The feminists....? I see soooo many hot Chinese girls...that I barely talk to Western women....there simply is no need and they mostly don't compare well with the Asian girls or the European girls I meet, Shanghai has a lot of really really good Ukrainians, Polish girls, Russians, Khazakstanians and Romanians.

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

1. Prostitutes
2. Fat, Frigid, Fugly ass Feminists
3. Students, who are usually fat and fugly or become so after a yearlong stint without male contact.

Again......

The 'ugly' Western girls here are pretty desperate as no one likes them, cause of the large amount of available Chinese girls.

But why would you even bother talking to them or having anything to do with them anyway?

As i previously said, there are a lot of hot 'white girls' from various places, pretty easy to find and accessible in Shanghai/Beijing.





Chinese food, pretty much all over China is the same, it sucks, its disgusting and there is very little redeemable about it. The Chinese food restaurants in North America don't serve this slop k? Most of that food is VIETNAMESE... whomever told you that American food is Catonese food is a liar. I went to Guangzhou thinking the exact same thing and when I dug into a Cantonese buffet I was quickly brought up to speed. Mostly everything here is made exclusively out of salt... its like munching on blocks of salt. I use to love eating American Chinese food... I would go to a buffet every week, sometimes twice or three times. I HATE Chinese food in China with a passion, its oily, salty, at times slimey, and almost always DISGUSTING. The taste varies from gross to inedible, I think I can count on one hand the number of dishes I can eat after visiting 10 or so provinces. They use something here called GUTTER OIL to cook it with, google that.
[/quote]

Ok....this is where you start talking some retarrrrrdddddded shit.

Chinese food back in Western countries is fatty salty shit, it sucks.

Chinese food in China can be REALLY REALLY GOOD or REALLY REALLY BAD.
It has taken me a while to find some good restaurants as Shanghai/the people here are focused on making as much cash as possible and don't give a fk about if they are producing quality stuff or not, this does change if you start spending 10 to 20 $ per dish.

There is a 'Hong Kongese' restaurant called 'Gang Li/Charm' and it has pretty awesome food, dinner for two there sets me back about 45 AUD.

My next favourite is Sichuan food or Yunnan food, a decent restaurant selling this, dinner for two....$35 dollars - super super super good food, super worth it.

Gutter oil is used for cooking street food or the disgusting cheap as shit gross restaurants, which should be avoided anyway, in whichever country you are in.

Really Cheap food in China, that's good?

Enter the world of 兰州拉面 - it's 'lan zhou la mian'

It's a muslim part of China that makes pretty decent cheap food, you only spend 2 dollars to buy a bowl of noodles and it's good shit!

It is not the best food in China, but if you wanna go on the cheap it's great.

another option is 'ma la tang' 麻辣烫

Which is a spicy soup where they chuck in all different means and veggies and they boil em and then you eat it, again you can put in noodles....in winter i eat it with lots of different veggies (the meat is a little dodgy...) and eggs - cheap and tastes great.


I will agree that a big part of Chinese food is oil.....a lot of food can be quite oily, but you can always find particular things that arent (the la mian i mentioned, xin jiang food isn't too oily and its so good).

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

NOW, Xinjiang is an entirely different animal. The food up there is NOT Chinese food but it IS fantastic. Everything I ate up there was good, I never went hungry, not even once. Why? That's where all the muslim Chinese hail from and their cooking is out of sight! The pay is fairly low but its more than enough to live on and the women are really decent people. The Chinese also don't have as many bad habits up that way as they recently had a big fight. (I can't go into details or I'll get a knock on my door).
In a 2nd tier city, don't accept anything less than 10,000 with the exception of Urumqi or the outlying cities and provinces (dalian, hainan, lanzhou). A first tier city you should be looking at 13,000 for the bare minimum. A 3rd tier city will probably pay around 8 to 9000 per month. Try not to get a school provided apartment as it will be sh1t and they will use it against you later on. Have them hook up an independent apartment where you deal with your own rent/utilities, that way if you change schools, they can't yank it out from under you... and yes they will. You will hear alot of horror stories from China, most if not all are true. The 'unseen' culture here is incredible and very frightening. Chinese have a strange habit of stabbing people in the back, its generally why no foreigner has many Chinese friends, and you should really question the ones that do. Chinese also LOVE to play political games in an office and will have people spying on you and reporting back from DAY 1. Having been here several years and worked at plenty of schools, I can tell you, it goes on almost everywhere. When Chinese need you, they will lavish you with attention and be seemingly greatful for everything, when they have a choice, they will be extremely harsh and non-commital. You will meet alot of guys here you initially think are nuts or 'jaded' until you understand what Chinese and China really is. I'll give you an example, I tried to leave a school once when my contract was completed, they said they liked me and I was a good teacher and that if I tried to leave they would sue me and throw me out of China. Then they showed me the contract where they had signed my name for me and said that they already sent it into the government. So you think I should go to the government and complain right? Wrong, imagine Mexico x 10. (Can't say anything bad or someone will knock at my door)

I totally believe you about the Xinjiang food - everything i've ever eaten in Xinjiang restaurants has been fucking awesome.

I wouldn't live in a Tier two or three city - there is almost nothing decently Western and that will destroy your mind for the first year.

Better off living in Shanghai or Shenzhen as you can experience both Western life and Chinese life.


Agreed - do not let your school manage apartments or anything, just get on craigslist and find someone who is renting one room for 2000k a month, live there.

You do not want Chinese schools controlling you - very bad idea.

Asia isn't a place that values directness and honesty, it's a place that values power, success and cunning, so don't expect people to 'do the right thing' because 'doing the right thing' in the West and 'doing the right thing' in China are totally different.

For example, if your gf in the West cheated...her telling u about it (owning up to it and being honest) is kinda admirable and better than just continuing to lie, its an effort to be honest with you.
your gf in China would never tell you, as it would make both of you lose face and would damage her social standing....in her mind it would be better to let you and her maintain face and just forget about it.


The spying thing is also totally true - I think i experienced that in every single school i worked in.

(12-05-2013 08:14 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Chinese don't like it when a foreigner speaks fluent Chinese, be very aware of this. They like it when you can speak like a baby but they detest anyone that truly understands their language.

Why am I here? I'm married to one. I spend my days inside my home or over at a friends house and very rarely do any of us venture outside. There are quite a few horrible things that you don't know about in China. Lookup http://www.chinasmack.com
I'm not sure if you are familiar with this but the Chinese are EXTREMELY rude people and they are either too stupid or too ignorant to acknowledge it.

Their culture works something like this: Someone does something terribly rude to someone else but no one will call them out on it. If you step in and say something then you lose face and the rude person loses face. So now you have a culture of extremely rude people all walking around and doing whatever they like because the polite people allow them to do so. If you try and point this out, you will be publicly ostracized by the group and people will deny even seeing you. How does this factor into your stay in China? Well when someone either blatantly lies to you, steps in front of you in a line up, p1sses or sh1ts openly on a street corner (usually into a garbage bin) or blows their nose into your soup or on your shoes (northern provinces), you are not allowed to say anything. If you are trying to enter a cab and someone runs and jumps in the other side, you are not allowed to say "Hey WTF? I got here first". So pretty much, unless you are a rude, arrogant, prick, this will drive you up the wall.

If I could do it over again, I would never have left Korea. I highly recommend you go there or Japan FIRST. If you are still interested after reading this then PM me because my wife is also a recruiter and we can help you line up a job.

There is a reason that people from HK and Taiwan don't like the mainlanders.

Oh and welcome to the club : http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ1NDYwODA=.html

你会讲流利的中文吗？

Also W T F did you marry a Chinese girl for? you seem to hate China....that just seems like the most retarded life choice ever....


Also there are lots of great things about China, seriously lots of super great things....so it's kinda shitty you're pushing such a negative thing onto this guy....


The way their culture works:

Yeah what you said about how they don't like confrontation and try to save face is true....putting up with bullshit though? I don't do it.

If i see people smoking inside shopping centres or inside schools or doing something I don't like, I tell them to stop it.


I do agree on Going to Japan or Korea first....but keep in mind if you do that, you won't like China afterwards....as Japan and Korea are kinda easier for Foreigners to get along in.


Also to the guy who started this thread...you'd be nuts to look him up for a job.


Badwolf - why did you marry the Chinese girl?

[Ilikekane]

(12-05-2013 12:10 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  

First time poster here.

I've been researching ESL teaching for the past month, and I've pretty much decided on China. I have several (dozens) of job offers and more come in every day. I've tried to make an educated decision on which city I want to call home for the next year, based on factors such as population, air quality, cost of living, and most importantly, food and women.

I've read as many data sheets as possible, but if anyone is currently living or traveling in China, your thoughts would be of great use. I think I've ruled out Beijing, Shenzhen and Shanghai due to pollution and cost. Also, I was pretty high on Kunming before I read a study showing up to 60% of the population could suffer from lead poisoning...does anyone know about Xi'an, Chengdu, Nanjing...really anywhere. Christ there are a lot of big cities in China.

Beijing has hottest girls, hands down, Chengdu is arguably as good maybe better....but it's not as big, Shanghai has less pollution than Beijing and is more 'Western friendly' in the way that it is kinda more Westernized....

Plus Beijing has Chao Yang District and Wu Dao Kou.....other than that, there isn't much else worth seeing, Shanghai is better overall as it has lots more places that are cooler to see or live in.

If I was you, I would go for Chengdu, the girls have amazing skin and are probably the 'happiest' people in China...much more chilled out than the Beijingers or Shanghai girls (who are a bit more materialistic)

[Ilikekane]

(12-05-2013 05:56 PM)Montana Wrote:  

What about Vietnam? I've almost decided on esl myself for a year to see if I like it enough to do it longer and for a break from the oil patch. The pay in Vietnam seems decent and the cost of living is low.

I have heard nothing but good things about Vietnam, also a great option i think.

[Ilikekane]

(12-06-2013 12:55 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Ahh Beijing's Chinese defense trolls out in force, come live here for a year and we'll see how fast you change your tune. Find me ONE foreigner in China who has been here long term and likes it and I'll show you a pedophile/ex-convict/scumbag/weirdo. I've yet to meet one LAOWAI who isn't a self obsessed nut bag, who actually digs China. The rest are trying to get back home with their wives. Let me guess, you are half Chinese or you're a business guy who has 'done some travelling in China'? Its different when you live here and your eyes aren't slanted.

So....I've been here long term, and like it, I haven't touched any kiddies, not convicted of anything, am probably not a scumbag and am definitely a weirdo but not in a creepy weirdo way, more like in a quirky fun way (I have heard the song 'what does the fox say' approximately 116 times)

(12-06-2013 12:55 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

I'm married to the mob, I get to see all the sh1t firsthand and no I don't speak Chinese, no interest in learning. Usually, you learn an language because you want to talk to people, here the only time I'm talking to people is because they've done something incredibly rude or stupid.

I speak Spanish, Japanese and Portuguese and I've lived in Mexico, Japan and Brazil. I've lived in China the longest and don't care to ever learn ANY of their language.

You try and speak Chinese to a Chinese person and he'll look at you with his mouth agape.. then go "Shawma?". You can say it in a near perfect accent and they will still give you that same brainless stare and pretend not to understand, then wave a hand infront of your face.

So....wtf did you marry a Chinese woman for? Are you mad?

If you hate China so much and have been to x amount of other places and speak those languages....then wtf are you in China for? It's mind numbing....

Also you're never really gonna understand China unless you speak the language.....every time i met retard foreigners who have been here for years and hate the place they unanimously can't speak Chinese and are super judgey (ironically most of the Chinese I don't like are also like that....)

The whole thing about 'if you speak to a Chinese person they won't understand and say shawma' (which should be shen me 什么）....is...just...retarded.

I was talking to lots of them last night, mostly female and they understood everything i said .

(12-06-2013 12:55 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

And guy I know ALL about GuanXi. Why don't you just say connections, bribery and law breaking corruption because that's exactly what that is. People keep mentioning the Elevator Life guys, man those guys live in Zhujiang NewTown, the least Chinese part of GZ. They make 100's of thousands of dollars per month, I'm just a regular guy living in REGULAR, middle class, China. I'm sure life is pretty awesome in America for Zuckerdude owner of facebook who doesn't have to worry about putting food on the table at night or having a child in a middle of the road health system.
For the average person, life in China is HARD...

That isn't what guanxi is about.

It's about creating win win situations for each other, running social game on crack and giving each other face so everyone can benefit/make more money.

(12-06-2013 12:55 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Here you want some personal experience: Recently, I had low potassium from diahrea. I had such low levels that I was blacking out. I went to the hospital and the nurse and doctor told me it would cost me 140 rmb for one night... no problem. They just needed a quick 5000 rmb deposit which I could get back the next day. My wife gladly paid it because she was worried. Later on that night, they said they couldn't figure out what was wrong, then after an xray, told me I was having a heart attack and needed surgery or I would die. They told me it would only cost 80 to 150,000 rmb but I was risking death. I had 5 doctors come and look at me and was placed beside several people in a heart ward. The next day a specialist came to see me and told me that my death was imminent and they pumped me up with all sorts of medicines. Something seemed fishy to me so I told them I was leaving and to take the IVs out. Well all of a sudden there were two nurses holding me down on the bed and telling me I couldn't leave, period. I said, no I'm the one paying! They said, they would need someone else's signature, I told them to get my wife, they said she was no longer allowed in to see me. When I threatened to call the police they balked a little but left me in the bed and I could hear my wife yelling at the hospital doors. My wife DID infact call the police and all of sudden I was released and had a nurse begrudingly pull out my IVs. We went to get the deposit back and found that 4000 RMB had already been used up for 'medicines'. A day later I went to the Cardio Hospital in GZ and after one day and 300 rmb they told me nothing was wrong with me, gave me an 8 rmb Potassium pill to take and I felt fine the next day.

This is entirely your fault.

1. You have a Chinese wife, how the fuck could she have not known this would happen and seriously......wtf would you pay a 5k deposit for?

No one is dumb enough to do that......Why in gods name did you believe them?

2. If you've been in China for that long and read http://www.Chinasmack.com how can you have not know about this situation being a very likely one to happen.....

I figured out that hospitals in China are essentially vampire stations within my first month, I had the flu, I wanted antibiotics, they wanted to do a chest x ray, i said no, they said yes chest x ray 600rmb, i said no, give me antibiotics, they gave up and gave me antibiotics....prettty simple...

NOW if you could speak Chinese....you wouldn't have gotten yourself into this sort of stupid situation.......pretty ironic - your lack of the local language makes you unable to deal with this sorta situations effectively.

(12-06-2013 12:55 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Apparently, I learned from a Chinese doctor, hospitals here have a qouta of surgeries to fill and they have to get so many patients under the knife or they risk losing their jobs.

So, do I want to risk having a baby in this system?

HELL NO. Do foreigners want to risk having families in this system? Only if they are rich but then why not just go home?

No amount of money can make up for poor character! You can't disagree with me on this one guy, you get sick and you are fvcked no matter how much money you have. When you can't trust a DOCTOR to tell you the truth, who can you trust?

OP, the question you should be asking yourself is, if life is so golden in China, why is there such a high turnover rate for seemingly easy teaching jobs? If you think I'm lying go look over my initial posts about China, they are rosy and I'm encouraging others to come here and FYI Beijing hires people to troll the net and challenge foreigners who write things about China.

Life isn't golden in China, it's rough, its sometimes dirty, it's always a challenge and its 1000% an adventure, fun and a chance to grow and adapt to a different world....if you're not into those things, stay in star bucks and keep ordering mc donalds online.

[Ilikekane]

(12-06-2013 04:58 AM)TopPanda Wrote:  

Well you can find girls in any Chinese city, that's not really a basis for choosing.

Really it comes down to climate more than anything. If you hate being cold, don't go to Beijing! Come to think of it most of China gets cold in Winter. Shanghai in January was horrible, but it wasn't even below freezing. Dry air makes it feel a lot colder than it was.

I spent 4 months in Guangzhou earlier this year. This is a massively overpopulated city and it rains a lot. Well I went mad there, but I can't fault the quality of the women.

Shenzhen has more single ladies though, mostly because the ladies here are the alpha of the alpha females of China and they can't find any alpha males.

Central China has the hottest women, if you can put up with living in frontier territory. It's pretty much foreigner-free. Draw a triangle from Chongqing, Wuhan to Changsha and you'll find it contains the world's hottest women.

Now I'm in Thailand and I realise that the food in China was terrible. The main problem in China is food quality. One day I went in the supermarket to buy a pepper, picked one up and put my thumb through it - yeuch. Compare that to Lotus in Bangkok - amazing quality of food. Food safety is also a problem in China.

Having said that, the quality of ladies in China was A, here in Bangkok it's C- at best [talking more about ladies with long term potential, of course Bkk is good for a bang].

Pretty much totally agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Thai food is so awesome

[Ilikekane]

(12-13-2013 01:16 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  

OK, here's an update. I have the opportunity to teach in Beijing at several branches of a language center. I've narrowed it down to Wudaokou or the one very close to Sanlitun Street. From experience, which is the better scene? I'm partial to the college vibe of Wudaokou, but Sanlitun sounds fantastic as well. Thoughts?

Wudaoko has lots of younger girls (university students) but is kinda farmer.

San Li Tun is the best.

[clever alias]

no, never, ever EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GO TO 兰州拉面！
you gotta go to a taiwan la mian

[Arturo Belano]

Good info ilikekane. So you've been teaching in China for 5 years now? Seems like you've got a good thing going over there. What city are you in at the moment and how much are you getting paid?

[missionpossible]

Badwolf, thanks for the report on china.

Honestly though -- and speaking to the elephant in the room -- I see your perspective as nothing more than a beta-male who's become bitter after a string of self-ascribed victimised behaviour.

If you don't like the country, move out. If you don't get fair treatment, go else where. And for the love of god, if after one bad experience in a hospital, why didn't you get yourself a second opinion on your hepatitis diagnosis?

It seems you put yourself in these situations were you're the loser, then complain about them without taking affirmative action. The problem isn't China, the problem is you. Man the fuck up.

Anyway, Sweet Pea, can we get an update? What did you end up choosing?

[bacon]

(12-15-2013 03:55 PM)missionpossible Wrote:  

Badwolf, thanks for the report on china.

Honestly though -- and speaking to the elephant in the room -- I see your perspective as nothing more than a beta-male who's become bitter after a string of self-ascribed victimised behaviour.

If you don't like the country, move out. If you don't get fair treatment, go else where. And for the love of god, if after one bad experience in a hospital, why didn't you get yourself a second opinion on your hepatitis diagnosis?

It seems you put yourself in these situations were you're the loser, then complain about them without taking affirmative action. The problem isn't China, the problem is you. Man the fuck up.

Anyway, Sweet Pea, can we get an update? What did you end up choosing?

based on the tone of your first post

[Patriarch]

(12-15-2013 03:55 PM)missionpossible Wrote:  

Badwolf, thanks for the report on china.

Honestly though -- and speaking to the elephant in the room -- I see your perspective as nothing more than a beta-male who's become bitter after a string of self-ascribed victimised behaviour.

If you don't like the country, move out. If you don't get fair treatment, go else where. And for the love of god, if after one bad experience in a hospital, why didn't you get yourself a second opinion on your hepatitis diagnosis?

It seems you put yourself in these situations were you're the loser, then complain about them without taking affirmative action. The problem isn't China, the problem is you. Man the fuck up.

Anyway, Sweet Pea, can we get an update? What did you end up choosing?

Still deciding. All of these schools sound great, but then you get a contract and the terms are shit. Sure, I'd love to teach demo classes for free for the first month in order to get clients! Except that is slave labor. I'm high on tier 2 cities again after reading Fortitudinal's Chengdu data sheet for the second time. My second wave of job applications was solely Beijing. Now my third wave, which I expect to be hearing back from in a couple hours once China wakes up, is all Chengdu and Kunming. I want to wind up in one of the big four at some point, but I can at least get contracts where the school isn't explicitly lying to me in smaller cities. I'm prepared to get screwed over regardless, but some of these offers have really made me shake my head.

Just for perspective, for every ten applications I put in, I hear back for nine of them (even ones I don't qualify for), and I am able to schedule interviews for maybe 6, due to time. Now for every 6 interviews, I get 4 job offers. I've applied for a ton of jobs, and the thing that is hard to keep track of is when recruiters will post jobs for the same school. I can't stand China's infatuation with the middle man, from job recruitment to rental agents.