[JimNortonFan]

(11-03-2013 11:39 AM)soup Wrote:  

I wonder if David Lee Roth ever did that.

Truth is that fucking whores, something I've never done, has a kink element, but there really isn't game there.

I'm curious to know what would happen if the whole world legalized prostitution.

Mass quantities of a substitute good hit the market.

What would happen to the oil companies if you could add a $2 pill to a gallon of water and put it in your tank like gas? First they get mad, then they put their own pills on the market.

Here's some game theory (in the Nash sense) I saw elsewhere:

If men are monogamous, women should be promiscuous.
If women are monogamous, men should be monogamous.
If women are promiscuous, men should be promiscuous.
If men are promiscuous, women should be monogamous.

Legal P4P would tend to create 2 kinds of women. Wives and whores. The proportion is unknown. The experiment could backfire and we might see marriage collapse further and women run around naked chasing alpha and/or cash.

[Twister]

I don't want to come across as a hater to the guys posting about prostitution in this thread- but it looks really bad and gives people an excuse to hate on the types of people that come to this forum.

Any media types trying to hate on the forum in the future have their jobs made so much easier when they can report that "Threads on the forum gave detailed instructions to users about how to pick up prostitutes". It also gives a skeezy feel to the board when the forum should be about self-improvement.

I'd suggest closing this thread and continuing the ban on talking about prostitutes- nothing good can come from it. We shouldn't be giving our enemies any excuses.

[Timoteo]

Surely Bieber can get quality ass without paying. We all know of Charlie Sheen's travails with "legit" women - the drama of his marriages to crazy bitches (not that he isn't also crazy, but you know what I mean...hahaha!). The banging of porn stars. But he also bought it from time to time to escape all the drama that comes with women. He unashamedly stated that he bought it, and WHY he bought it. Bieber had a cute celeb girlfriend (Selena Gomez). I'm sure he's done his share of backstage and hotel after-party smashing of cute groupies too. Sometimes you just want to cut through all that and buy some. Hell, Hugh Grant, while he was still with Elizabeth Hurley bought a fuckin' streetwalker and got blown in his car just for the illicit thrill. Sometimes that's what it's about. However, using pros isn't a guarantee of discretion. If you're famous, some of these tricks WILL use their encounter with you to make a little cash by selling the story and getting their own 15 minutes on your back. Or the call girl ring gets busted, and the madam uses that black book to buy her way out of a prison term. It is what it is. If you're famous, you're always vulnerable no matter how you get the ass.

[rudebwoy]

Why is he being photographed leaving this place?
It's not like other famous people never visit these type of establishments or like they don't have a side door or private entrance for them.
Believe you me this is staged, just like all his "bad boy" antics.
Selena was a front, does he look like he could handle a hot tamale like her? Hell, no.

[JayMillz]

(11-03-2013 12:02 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Sometimes you just want to cut through all that and buy some.

Sometimes pursuing putas can get you caught up like the CIA agent in Cartagena. That being said, what people do is their own business, obviously.

Unlike guys that need to travel to third world and/or Latin American countries that are infamous for sex tourism to sport fuck mostly broke, poorly educated chics - Bieber probably has the benefit of low hanging fruit by way of groupies all over the world.

[Hencredible Casanova]

I've been to that same brothel during my first visit to Brazil. It's called Centaurus. Rua Canning 44 in Ipanema. First and only time I've done p4p but it was well worth it. Great atmosphere. It's a top five brothel in the world. I think it's only second to one in Germany. There's steam rooms and saunas for you to relax before or after you enter the main bar where the girls are. Most of the clientele are international businessmen. Some of them fly girls from there around the world with them.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-03-2013 11:39 AM)soup Wrote:  

I wonder if David Lee Roth ever did that.

Are you kidding?

Probably a thousand times.

All those cats do that.

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It is funny how guys think that nobody pays for sex but there are hookers everywhere all over the world.

This stuff is a lot more common that anyone thinks.

Especially for rich and famous people with money.

[TheBulldozer]

I almost hit it up, but in the end decided against it. I'd be lying if I didn't think about it when I walked past it.

[OGNorCal707]

(11-03-2013 07:08 AM)Moma Wrote:  

The reason P4P is looked down upon is that if you use it as a crutch..which many will just decide to do because it is easier..you will not understand lizard psychology and why they bang who they bang. This means if you do get an LTR (which most guys in here will EVENTUALLY do), the foundations will be based on money.

Your money will eventually run low or NOT be enough to keep the lizard engaged in you and she will either cheat on you or DUMP your ass completely cos you only relied on money to get punani.

If P4P was openly embraced, some of the younger cats on here starting up would just save up their uni grant money and start buying pussy outright which would cause a savage underdevelopment of game. It would encourage bad habits like using online game for 80 percent of hunting, excessive texting, crying and other effeminate shyt that will send your bought reptile doing a double back flip onto some alpha d!ck at her first opening.

Thanks for the little tutorial, I hear what you're saying, but once again guys act like everything is black and white on this issue. I'm not suggesting that guys don't learn game, and actively game and fuck normal chicks, and only do p4p, that would be straight up retarded.

I just don't see why it's a mortal sin to indulge once in a blue moon, which for me would be about once every 2 years on average. Am I going to instantly become a beta mangina who forgets everything he's learned about women, and lose any shred of game that I already had?

I've known a guy from college who lives in LA who basically gave up on normal chicks and just started going to Asian massage parlors to get pussy, I think that's fucking lame and I stopped talking to the guy and felt sorry for him.

That said there are plenty of guys who have game and get laid on their own, who just want to do p4p on occasion for whatever reason, and I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Anyhow, I've probably already pissed off Roosh because we all know his stance on the subject, so I won't post anything else about it.

[OGNorCal707]

Oh yeah and it's very possible that this whole incident is just a publicity stunt as someone already mentioned, Bieber like Miley Cyrus is a total fake, and right now his "people" are doing everything possible to increase his "bad boy image." Every week there is some report about him getting into a fight, or getting arrested, etc. I saw some random link to a news story about him spraying graffiti on the streets of Bogota a week ago.

[Wutang]

Does he have a new single coming out? If he does, then you know the reason for why this story was brought to public attention.

[thegmanifesto]

The funny thing that guys don't get is that most of the greatest players of all time banged tons of hookers as well.

I have known guys that will bang a hot girl they picked up in a bar and then later call a hot hooker that same night and bang her.

Talking about banging hookers has no place on the Rooshvforum but to think this stuff isn't common among all kinds of men is very naive.

[scotian]

Whores are good if you want to indulge in acts that regular girls usually don't do, try convincing two civilian chicks to dyke it out on your bed while you sniff an eighth off their asses, not an easy feat.

[speakeasy]

I no longer care about guys who do P4P. I pass no judgment on them. Even if they gave up on normal women and only do P4P. If that works for them and they have no intention of having a relationship, marriage or family then I can see how it makes sense. I get why some guys just want to get some poon and cut out the courtship if they don't want to be with the girl after busting a nut anyway. Suppose you are 55 and still crave young pussy but you aren't rich or famous enough to pull 22 year old modelesque hotties. What are you going to do? At that point the terma sounds like a good option. Even Berlusconi, the most powerful man in Italy was smashing a 17 year old prostitute:

[Veloce]

Before I ever heard about Roosh or Neil Strauss or anyone, I knew this player about 9 years ago. I had no clue what game is or that he was a player. To this day he's probably the only guy I've known that I'd consider a 'natural'. One of my biggest regrets is being so idiotically immature and such a late bloomer to appreciate knowing this guy. I just couldn't hang with him when we went out. He was at a very advanced level and I wasn't even playing the game.

He told me point blank: "I've known from a young age that I want to fuck as many girls as possible." He started hitting Mexican whorehouses when he was 16. Even while I knew him and he was killing it with girls he met during night game,he would still take regular trips down to Tijuana for easy sex with hookers.

He had a new girl every week. He killed it on the dancefloor and in clubs. He was notorious for stealing girls from his guy friends, but not intentionally on his part; the girls just gravitated toward him. Some of them were some of the hottest girls I'd ever seen. He'd also get with girls that wouldn't pass my boner test. He didn't care. He's one of the most dedicated people I've ever known to chase strange.

He had a strut and style of walking that I've never seen since. We would be hanging out running a random errand, and he would pass some women in an aisle. They would stop in their tracks to check him out. He had the stink.

I'm down for p4p I've just never been presented with an attractive opportunity.

[Christian McQueen]

^^^That chick is fire...

[Christian McQueen]

I could care less about P4P guys either. It's like cats who knock bottle service and then they experience it, along with the pussy that comes with it and they change their tune.

I've never done it, but who knows what the future holds.

[Dusty]

Ever have a clingy broad after you? You just wanted the P&D, yet you can't get rid of her and she wants to dig deep into what you are all about while all you can think about is her leaving?

That's what celebrities have to deal with all the time, but on steroids. They have groupies who want to fuck them sure, but then these broads want to hang around, and want to know what the "real you" is all about, etc.

Imagine you're a rockstar. There's a bunch of groupies back stage and you pick one. You take her back to the hotel, and smash. After you nut-out, you want to turn over and get a little shut eye because you have to get up at 6am to get on the tour bus for the 9 hour drive to Cheboygan in time to do the sound check. The bish won't leave and wants to stay up all night grilling you on the meaning of the lyrics to your songs or whatever.

So a lot of celebrities use 'tutes so they can get the smash then get the hell out of there. Clean break away.

[Quintus Curtius]

I don't get it...why a celebrity would want to go to a termas when he could just as easily find a nice regular club, post up there, order bottle service, and let the chicks some to him. He wouldn't have to do anything but show his face. Jesus, in Rio there are a million places where a guy can go to run game. It just doesn't make any sense. Unless he just wants the termas experience or whatever, but still...

Celebrities like him need very little (if any) game at all. Especially overseas. All he has to do is show his face in public and he has girls galore.

He might be a pervert or freak and would rather pay for some weird shit. Either that, or (my guess) is that he's looking to score coke and knows the gangsters can provide it for him there.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-03-2013 10:50 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I don't get it...why a celebrity would want to go to a termas when he could just as easily find a nice regular club, post up there, order bottle service, and let the chicks some to him.

You could easily flip this around, couldn't you?

I don't get it...why a celebrity would want to go to a regular club when he can just as easily go to a brothel and find exactly what kind of girl he is looking for for what amounts to him as pocket change?

See how easy that was to do?

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Another reason guys go to these places for the people that don't understand it:

Let's say you want a hot red head with big boobs that night.

Might be kind of hard to find that if you go out.

Maybe you want a little Asian with huge fake boobs?

You want to go to 20 different clubs trying to find her?

Or you want that exact one girl who you saw in a p0rn earlier that day.

You want to drive out to the valley and hope she is at TGI Fridays?

Or you want to swoop three hot blondes at the same time.

You want to try to thread that needle?

etc etc etc

If you have access to high end hooker rings that stuff is like ordering a pizza.

Anything you want served up on a platter.

Ask yourself, you don't always feel like making a pizza from scratch do you?

Sometimes you just want to stay in and order one up.

Right?

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Yet another reason guys do it:

It is really not that complicated, it is fun.

Getting drunk, snorting coke and swooping and getting blown by 4 Brazilian 9's actually sounds kind of fun doesn't it?

Or would it be more fun to daygame for 8 hours in the food court of a mall in Zanesville?



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Keep in mind, I am not advocating hookers here.

Just schooling some on the younger less experienced guys on here about the mindset behind why guys who otherwise can get girls would call a hooker.

For the record, I am anti-hooker, but not for any moral reasons, naivete, the need to be "emotionally connected and wanted by a girl" or any foolish notions of how it would "ruin" your Game.

(So actually I am not "anti" I just don't choose to use them).

(11-03-2013 10:27 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

Before I ever heard about Roosh or Neil Strauss or anyone, I knew this player about 9 years ago. I had no clue what game is or that he was a player. To this day he's probably the only guy I've known that I'd consider a 'natural'. One of my biggest regrets is being so idiotically immature and such a late bloomer to appreciate knowing this guy. I just couldn't hang with him when we went out. He was at a very advanced level and I wasn't even playing the game.

He told me point blank: "I've known from a young age that I want to fuck as many girls as possible." He started hitting Mexican whorehouses when he was 16. Even while I knew him and he was killing it with girls he met during night game,he would still take regular trips down to Tijuana for easy sex with hookers.

He had a new girl every week. He killed it on the dancefloor and in clubs. He was notorious for stealing girls from his guy friends, but not intentionally on his part; the girls just gravitated toward him. Some of them were some of the hottest girls I'd ever seen. He'd also get with girls that wouldn't pass my boner test. He didn't care. He's one of the most dedicated people I've ever known to chase strange.

I believe it.

I have known a bunch of guys that fit this same bill.

This is really common from my experience.

Read the biographies of the top player in history, Sinatra, Rubierosa, Robert Plant, all the bands, rich alpha criminals, sports stars .... they were all banging hookers.

[Cattle Rustler]

Zanesville makes it again! With so many RVF mentions about Zanesville, any person googling the town is going to find a surprise.

Zanesville, the next miliklubi...sausagefest.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(11-04-2013 07:42 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Yet another reason guys do it:

It is really not that complicated, it is fun.

Getting drunk, snorting coke and swooping and getting blown by 4 Brazilian 9's actually sounds kind of fun doesn't it?

Or would it be more fun to daygame for 8 hours in the food court of a mall in Zanesville?

Your post hit it out of the park G. This is exactly right. Guys are reading way too much into this. It's just plain fun. I felt like a Roman emperor for the evening I was at Centaurus. Did I go again on my later visits to Rio? No. Once I had a taste I was cool. Funny thing was after that night I hung out with some cute girls that lived in my friends building in Ipanema. They were just teasing me about it like it was no big deal; as if I was a real man or some shit. All the local Rio guys at my friend's apartment gave me high fives. It's just part of life in Rio. Everyone knows about that place.

I hang out with a lot of players and they buy bitches all the time. And these dudes have no problems getting laid. When I was in DR last year, towards the end of one night I hit a high end p4p strip club with a some of my boys. Like two out of the five (not including me) bought something. No big deal. They got their dicks wet with some fly Dominicanas and slept well that night. And one of them swooped a local the next night.

I'm not naturally a p4p guy but I keep an open mind. If I'm ever in Berlin I would probably check out this brothel I heard about over there called Artemis.

[XYZ]

To Beiber it's all the same. whether its banging some groupie or a hooker he has to put in no effort. in one case they are banging him for his fame, the other his money

[cardguy]

I remember in Slash's autobiography he talked about hookers.

He said lapdancing is bullshit. If you want a proper lapdance - get a hooker. Preferably Argentinian. They will do anything.

[RussianRootCanal]

Apparently some Brazilian wasn't too happy about him going to a brothel

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXq0QcU3oOo