Quote: (10-21-2013 11:06 AM)Wutang Wrote:
Am I saying you can still get laid if you're sitting alone in your apartment in Taipei/Seoul/Tokyo or the like whacking off to hentai while crying into your 7-11 bought ramen noodles? No. But I do think that a guy who has weak game that wouldn't get any results in the US would find that the same game would work better when he is abroad. Remember in game we talk about outside of your game you also have passive value - stuff such as your looks, how well you are dressed, if you have friends with you and the like. I would argue that being a white guy is passive value in East Asian countries. Sure it won't get you laid just as just being rich or just being good looking won't get you laid if you don't actually go after it but it's still an advantage.
I don't think anyone's accusing you of saying that.
You seem to be arguing that, due to an alleged widespread sexual preference for Westerners among women in East Asian countries, Western men who come to this part of the world require only a bare minimum in looks, game or effort in order to date and have sex with multiple women. By this reasoning, white/Western guys who did poorly with women in their home countries -- either because of poor looks, hygene, confidence or social skills (aka 'game') -- can expect to get laid easily here, as most local women will automatically be attracted to them due to their exotic "whiteness".
While there are indeed
some Chinese and Japanese women who have an explicit preference for White foreigners, these women by no means make up the majority. Having lived both in China and Japan, I and other members have not seen anything resembling any sort of widespread explicit preference for Western guys here.
In China (Beijing, to be specific), I needed exactly the same amount of game and effort to get laid as back home. There was no noticable difference. You could get rejected just as easily as in the West. Though I got laid regularly, I had to put in no fewer approaches. Sure, you saw plenty of Westerners with local girls in Clubs (mainly cuz the local guys were too scared to approach), but you saw just as many striking out, none of this crap about women throwing themselves at you and whatnot. All in all, I'd say my results were average, and with few exceptions, the effects of my ethnicity were neutral. In Japan, on the other hand, I actually get laid
far less than back home, despite putting in much more effort.
Although I've never been to Korea, most members who've been there seem to say being foreign/white/non-Korean is actually a disadvantage. In general, that country appears to have the reputation of being
harder than the West on this forum. The former user Dash-Global's thread is notorious for how he goes on and on about being unable to lay pipe in South Korea.
I've also never been to Taipei, but again, in a recent datasheet, a user also described exotic capital as a Westerner as being "neutral". Other guys based in Japan will also say it's not any easier than in the West, despite the incredibly widely held belief that it is.
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Didn't mean to turn this into a race thread but anytime someone starts asking if X guy could do good in Y country or region you'll always be bordering on the verge of a thread going in that direction. If you read any of the posts in this thread I made I haven't made a comment about how life is so unfair that white guys can have it easier in East Asia.
I didn't suspect you of being a race troll or anything. I think it's fair enough to bring up the topic, but it still can become quite irritating to put in the effort, only to be told you're having pussy thrown at you from all corners.
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