[Giovonny]

Fight!

That is how I cultivated an Alpha mindset, attitude, and demeanor. That is how I developed a sense of superiority over other men and a sense of entitlement over women. That is why I feel like an Alpha.

As a young man, I has dozens of street fights and schoolyard fights. I realized that I could beat up most of the other kids in school. This gave me a psychological and physical advantage over them. They had to respect me.

This was a very primal and animalistic experience. I embraced it. It gave me power.

Girls could sense it.

I cultivated this aggressive, competitive, mindset for many years. I transferred it into other sports. I transferred it to chasing girls. I transferred it into all competitive situations. It became part of my personality. It became my greatest skill.

I call it -- "The Law of The Jungle"

The toughest fighting animal is the one who controls the food, females, and resources. That is the essence of Alpha.

I still spar occasionally. I do this to test myself. Am I still an alpha or have I become a beta? I can usually find out in a matter of minutes.

I know that 99% of guys are not doing this. That fact alone lets me know that I am in the top 1% of men, in this area.

My advice is this..

If you want to become more of an Alpha -- Find a boxing gym or MMA gym -- Go there and fight!

Fight for your life. You will learn things about yourself that otherwise would have gone undiscovered. You will challenge yourself in ways that you previously had never thought of. You will learn more about yourself than you ever thought possible. You will learn strengths and weaknesses that you didn't know existed.

In my opinion, there is no better exercise for Alpha Development.

Challenge yourself on the deepest, most masculine, most primal level..

Fight!

You will be glad that you did. You will become more Alpha.

[VincentVinturi]

Couldn't agree more. Learning how to fight will change your life, even if you were good with women to begin with.

[thegmanifesto]

Good post.

I have seen this advice somewhere else before.

[LEMONed IScream]

I am quite an athletic guy and have an interesting physique even if I am not tall, had a few fights too back in those days, but never really had the impulse of fighting as a sport, and well probably I won't really get into it. This might be the biggest and most direct and effective way of being competitive but I believe some of the biggest battles we also face within ourselves.

[la_mode]

I don't think "tough = alpha", although it can help.

I've seen bantamweight (if that) hipsters with hot in-shape women and tatted-up marine bad ass types (who could take basically anyone) with fat women or just not attractive at all.

[hoops330]

Why the assumption that all marines are bad asses? Many are dorky high school kids that are too stupid to get into college and couldn't fight their way out of wet paper bags.

[Giovonny]

(10-07-2013 12:32 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Good post.

I have seen this advice somewhere else before.

Haha.. I know you have been talking about this for years.

We haven't mentioned it for a while so I thought the people needed a reminder.

I was thinking and I realized that it is the foundation that all my success is built upon. Fighting made me who I am.

I thought your post was really funny..

You were away from the forum for a while and on your first day back you see a thread recommending boxing as a way to "increase alpha"! You probably felt like it was "Groundhog Day", if you know what I mean..

The only thing that could have been better then that was if I started a thread about custom suits and pocket squares! (And tried to claim it was an original idea. If that happened, you would have known that I officially lost my mind!)

We already have a lot of fashion threads that echo your advice.

Sometimes, I feel like I post the same stuff every day, just in a slightly different form. Newbies join the forum every day and we have to go over the basic fundamentals again and again and again. I guess thats the nature of a game forum.

Good to see you back

[Giovonny]

(10-07-2013 12:34 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

but I believe some of the biggest battles we also face within ourselves.

Well said.

Of course, the most important battles are the internal battles.

I believe that fighting others (in a controlled environment) can greatly help a man see the truths about himself.

Fighting others empowers you to fight yourself.

(10-07-2013 06:21 PM)la_mode Wrote:  

I don't think "tough = alpha"

I agree. It is only one aspect of alpha. One aspect is not enough. We must be well rounded and balanced.

That said, I consider hand to hand combat to be one of the most primal and natural aspects of the alpha persona. It sort of serves as a foundation. When it is strengthened, it causes other aspects to be strengthened as well.

Fighting improves other aspects like -- confidence, awareness, body language, eye ball language, health, vitality, self worth, etc, etc.

(10-07-2013 08:14 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  

Why the assumption that all marines are bad asses? Many are dorky high school kids that are too stupid to get into college

Lol!

Semper Fi!

I have a few Marines in my family and you are right -- Some are tough and some are pussies!

[Beyond Borders]

(10-07-2013 08:14 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  

Why the assumption that all marines are bad asses? Many are dorky high school kids that are too stupid to get into college and couldn't fight their way out of wet paper bags.

Hey, some paper bags are pretty fucking persistent bro.

[Wreckingball]

(10-07-2013 12:10 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Fight!

That is how I cultivated an Alpha mindset, attitude, and demeanor. That is how I developed a sense of superiority over other men and a sense of entitlement over women. That is why I feel like an Alpha.

As a young man, I has dozens of street fights and schoolyard fights. I realized that I could beat up most of the other kids in school. This gave me a psychological and physical advantage over them. They had to respect me.

This was a very primal and animalistic experience. I embraced it. It gave me power.

Girls could sense it.

I cultivated this aggressive, competitive, mindset for many years. I transferred it into other sports. I transferred it to chasing girls. I transferred it into all competitive situations. It became part of my personality. It became my greatest skill.

I call it -- "The Law of The Jungle"

The toughest fighting animal is the one who controls the food, females, and resources. That is the essence of Alpha.

I still spar occasionally. I do this to test myself. Am I still an alpha or have I become a beta? I can usually find out in a matter of minutes.

I know that 99% of guys are not doing this. That fact alone lets me know that I am in the top 1% of men, in this area.

My advice is this..

If you want to become more of an Alpha -- Find a boxing gym or MMA gym -- Go there and fight!

Fight for your life. You will learn things about yourself that otherwise would have gone undiscovered. You will challenge yourself in ways that you previously had never thought of. You will learn more about yourself than you ever thought possible. You will learn strengths and weaknesses that you didn't know existed.

In my opinion, there is no better exercise for Alpha Development.

Challenge yourself on the deepest, most masculine, most primal level..

Fight!

You will be glad that you did. You will become more Alpha.

"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. "

[Giovonny]

(10-08-2013 05:57 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. "

I agree that non-violence is better then violence.

However, the concept of non violence is a man made construct and not in accordance with nature.

Nature operates on violence. Birds kill and eat worms, snakes kill and eat birds, lions kills and eat snakes. Alphas are determined through battle.

Humans kill and eat chickens, fish, cows, goats, etc.

Modern man used violence to out compete rival species like Neanderthal, etc.

Nations are built on violence and the threat of violence.

America would be nothing without its military.

Fighting is a part of the world, whether we like it or not.

The first step is self defense, the second step is avoiding violence.

Again, I agree with you. I'm just expanding the conversation.

Where is that quote from?

I bet it's from a soldier who had experience in battle.. That is how he became so enlightened

[deathtofatties]

Don't go around looking for a fight, but be ready for the fight that comes looking for you. Learn boxing.

[EasyMoney]

The ability to fuck and fight was the only thing that separated the alphas from the rest in the raw, primal state of nature.

[nek]

While there are other elements to 'Alpha', the ability to physically impose your will is by and large the most significant. It's the most fundamental form of dominance and the biggest asset to survival. You're kidding yourself to think otherwise. You may not like it (I don't to a degree), but that doesn't make it untrue.

[Fredster]

Batman is the ultimate alpha

Alpha brain: 32 languages, 2 engineering degrees, one chemistry degree and one physics degree and a business degree and 20+ programming languages.Can plan out unbeatable strategies and think of ideas on the fly. Knows enough medical knowledge to cure his own disease and fix up his own wounds.

Alpha status: owns a company that keeps gotham's economy afloat, generates wealth, a celebrity.

Alpha will: Iron will that makes him believe nothing is impossible.

Alpha body: strong as hell, knows how to fight , training in martial arts for 20 years. 6'2 + goodlooking( although he can be alpha at 5'2 and average looking) and really buff(this matters). Maintains it with good diet + no alchohol + training.

Alpha presence: believes his work is more important than pussy( he gets bangs a fair bit), commands attention in the business room, leads well, never complains and uses his own fear against others.

[deathtofatties]

Learning to fight is a very important survival skill, however let me add that knowing how to fight and having experience fighting doesn't make you better with women at all. I trained in striking alongside some very, very serious MMA fighters in the past, and even today I roll out with a guy that's a local wrestling/ju-jitsu champion. But it doesn't matter.. Fighting experience and skill doesn't translate over to better game, nor more balls with women. These guys don't approach like we do, as often as we do. They have a different set of balls.

I say take boxing lessons on the side, or better yet, Krav Maga. become a competent fighter. You don't have to be Mike Tyson, it's just self defense.

Fighting is purely about survival. Having fight skills won't make you better with girls necessarily. It won't give you the balls to talk to girls, just the balls to stand up to a bully. There's more to being a man than just meeting girls though.

[Wreckingball]

(10-08-2013 06:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 05:57 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. "

I agree that non-violence is better then violence.

However, the concept of non violence is a man made construct and not in accordance with nature.

Nature operates on violence. Birds kill and eat worms, snakes kill and eat birds, lions kills and eat snakes. Alphas are determined through battle.

Humans kill and eat chickens, fish, cows, goats, etc.

Modern man used violence to out compete rival species like Neanderthal, etc.

Nations are built on violence and the threat of violence.

America would be nothing without its military.

Fighting is a part of the world, whether we like it or not.

The first step is self defense, the second step is avoiding violence.

Again, I agree with you. I'm just expanding the conversation.

Where is that quote from?

I bet it's from a soldier who had experience in battle.. That is how he became so enlightened

Sun Tzu wrote it in his book "The art of War"

[Screwston]

Does Soup approve of this alpha behavior?

[Mage]

While a man can build self esteem from various things not only physical fighting (he can earn money, receive promotion, run busyness, reach a new notch count, lift more weight, invent something new and other things) nothing substitutes getting physical and fighting full contact. Everything else is more superficial, everything else is more of an social construct, something more artificial, but fighting goes the deepest into your subconscious and it is something primal and unadulterated by society.
Nothing can ground a man more in reality then a good physical fight, then it easily transfers to other areas in life as well. After good physical fighting I literally become enlightened - I come into a state where I distinguish between truth and bullshit with surgical precision. A few days after a fight I receive truths that would make prophets envy me. I see motivations of other people clearly. Everything becomes beautiful, every color and sound becomes brighter. Approach anxiety - nonexistent. The lax willingness to escape reality by playing a video game or overeating - nonexistent. Fighting kills hamster and lies. Women and betas have hamsters because they are sheltered from physical fighting and never face the reality. Women love violent men who bring them to reality. Fighting is life. Avoiding fights is slow death.

[Nascimento]

Makes me think of WIA's post: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-25271-...#pid479123

Learning how to fight and being in the top percentile in terms of ability to self-defend is not going to get you laid. The same way there are rich guys who struggle, and jacked and low body fat guys who can't score.

It's all part of you. Everything.. game, money, style, looks, confrontational confidence..

Game is probably the only one that is affected by all others. Improve your financial status and your body composition and your game will improve. But you still have to work on the core game dynamics, such as approaching, logistics, and ability to close.

That's why game is the all of the above. It consists of everything else.

Personally, I'm a young guy so I don't have the money side going strong for me right now. I have decent style, better than most kids my age. I'm doing well for looks as I try to maximize what I can offer by taking care of my body. I'm endlessly working on game, and integrating more approaches weekly and developing more finesse when it comes to closing is my focus right now.

Confrontational confidence? I have very little. Never been in a fighting situation where my safety was in legitimate danger.

If I am to follow Gio's advice, you can count on it having a strong effect on my game. This is because it is one of the parts of game for me that is underdeveloped, and I am not seriously lacking in other areas as much (except maybe money and being older, which girls value).

It's all about making the best of what you got, and always striving to reach your potential. And once you get there, try to take it up a notch higher. I know I'm not even close to maximizing my potential in any area just yet, so I know there is a bright future ahead if I keep on working.

I went in a local fighting gym to get some information a couple days ago. Going to give the free week trial a go.

[Giovonny]

(10-10-2013 01:35 AM)Mage Wrote:  

nothing substitutes getting physical and fighting full contact. Everything else is more superficial, everything else is more of an social construct, something more artificial, but fighting goes the deepest into your subconscious and it is something primal and unadulterated by society.

Wow! That's exactly what I wanted to say but I couldn't put it into words!

(10-10-2013 01:35 AM)Mage Wrote:  

A few days after a fight I receive truths that would make prophets envy me. I see motivations of other people clearly. Everything becomes beautiful, every color and sound becomes brighter.

Yes Sir!

Fighting opens your mind and removes the fear and anxiety.

(10-10-2013 01:35 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Fighting kills hamster and lies.

(10-10-2013 01:35 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Women and betas have hamsters because they are sheltered from physical fighting and never face the reality.

(10-10-2013 01:35 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Women love violent men who bring them to reality. Fighting is life. Avoiding fights is slow death.

Great post Mage!

I can tell that you have been in battle!

(10-09-2013 06:33 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Sun Tzu wrote it in his book "The art of War"

Thanks for sharing.

I know the man that wrote that had battle experience.

[Vaun]

Would you put krav maga in this bucket? There are some serious schools here, not your typical back page schools you see advertised.

[Wreckingball]

(10-11-2013 04:55 PM)puckman Wrote:  

Would you put krav maga in this bucket? There are some serious schools here, not your typical back page schools you see advertised.

I think that as long as you can fuck people up, it's game.

[Stun]

(10-11-2013 04:55 PM)puckman Wrote:  

Would you put krav maga in this bucket? There are some serious schools here, not your typical back page schools you see advertised.

There are bunch of boxing, and BJJ, and krav maga gyms in my immediate neighborhood and I know some of the guys personally. They all pretty much agree that the krav maga guys are not to be fucked around with.

[mr_lucky]

(10-07-2013 08:14 PM)hoops330 Wrote:  

Why the assumption that all marines are bad asses? Many are dorky high school kids that are too stupid to get into college and couldn't fight their way out of wet paper bags.

They probably can now though, and the poster's point was that that did not magically make them alpha.