I touched on this before but I wanted to expanded on it: the issue of American women and what to do about them. I think we can all agree that we are not happy with the way American women are today. What we don’t seem to have any consensus on is what to do about it. So let’s take an objective look at the current state of affairs, options, possible outcomes, and the role of Game in all of this.
Before I can continue I have to establish some premises on which to base my arguments. The first premise is that only a very small minority of men have Game or can be considered “Alphas”. Even being very generous, this would amount to less than 1% of men. This would also be the amount of men that are on forums like this one and reading the material that exist on it. The second premise is that the vast majority of American women, greater than 70%, are no longer capable of being the loving, affectionate women we would like them to be. The third premise, is that the traditional relationship model of men exchanging resources (money) for sex, love, affection, and children, to a great extent, is no longer valid. (As women become more and more financially independent they no longer need our money.) The fourth premise is, that women today are seeking to redefine their role in the world and in relationships. And that definition is still very much incomplete. There is no consensus among women on what and how the modern woman should be. The American feminist movement while seeking to right some of the wrongs of the past, after having done so, is not able to provide a working relationship model for men and women. We can all agree that the current relationship models do not work, marriage do not work, and that new and functional relationship models need to be created and tested. All of this has lead to a great unhappiness in both sexes.
Ok, so now, we are all in agreement that we would like American women to change but how can this be done?
What are American men doing to effect any changes in women?
Some men on here believe that Game itself is capable of changing women. They believe that Game changes men and that how these men interacting with women has the potential to change women but is this really possible? First, most men do not use Game to change women, they use it to just get sex and maybe a better short-term relationship from women. I don’t hear any of the top Game gurus either on here or anywhere else talking about changing women. Game is a tactical weapon. It has no long-term strategic objective. The scope of Bang and most pickup books ends at sex. The objective of the Game is sex, not to change women. Does having sex with a woman change her? I don’t recall ever seeing a woman change in any significant way by me having sex with them. Sure they would become more emotionally attached to me and try to please me in some ways but, by and large, they remained the same person. If Game does not have an active agenda to change women, how can it? If anything, some have argued that it has made things worse for the majority of men. The women that feels, “taken advantage of” by a guy using Game or being “pumped and dumped” then becomes bitter and extract revenge on other men. In the same way, that a lot of men who have felt mistreated by women then seek revenge, using Game, so do these women in turn do the same. In both instances, the results can ripple across many lives leaving in its wake many bitter and hurt people. It is for this reason that Game has a bad connotation with women. It’s is viewed as only slightly better than the Rape Pill. But the problem is not Game. Game is only really a way of communicating. It is just a tool set. It is how is it used that earns it it’s bad reputation. Is Game used in a constructive and productive manner or is it used in a selfish and destructive manner? That would of course depend on the individual. It could be used either way. So no, as things currently stand, I don’t see how Game will change American women and in some cases it may even make things worse.
Then there is the argument that if the current crop of women don’t have children they will just die out and that will be the end of them. Well they will have children, simply because 90% of the men out there don’t subscribe to the beliefs expressed on here. These men will marry and have children with these women and they do. So no, they are not going to die childless, at least not most of them. But worse, much worse, are the girls these women are raising. I am fortunate to have access to a wide range of girls, from 15 – 45. If we think women today are bad, try talking to a 15 yr old. I can promise you, the next generation of women will be worse, much worse. Girls are becoming more and more like men. All of the qualities we dislike in women today, young girls have them to an even greater degree. So no, I don’t think they will go the way of the dinosaurs and just become extinct. If anything we can expect the next generation of women to be even worse than the current generation with greater predatory skills.
Then there is the manosphere movement. Which is all good and well but for all intent and purposes it is viewed as a radical, extremist movement without any clear agenda. Currently, the manosphere do not have a clear agenda that the average guy can back in any public way. Most of the writers don’t even exist in the real world as real people. They write behind aliases. It is basically an underground, cult movement at this point in terms of sheer numbers. And while they do have some valid points and ideas they also have some extreme views that a lot of men don’t feel comfortable supporting and that includes me. So without a clear platform and agenda the majority of men can support I don’t see how the manosphere will be able to have a significant impact on American women behavior.
What about importing women and leaving the country? Well, we all know what happens once a woman lives here for more than a year and how many of us will be able to leave the country? Did I miss any other way that we are trying to change American women behavior?
Any hope of changing American women will have to involve a majority of the men. I simply do not see a way around this. The role of the Alpha make in nature is to provide a strong leader. Where are our strong leaders? Where are the Alpha males of the manosphere who are standing up and saying follow me? We love to berate the average guy as being beta but yet where is the alpha male he is suppose to look up to and follow? Every successful movement was driven forward by strong leaders. Both the feminist and blacks had them and still have them. But for all of the alphas we are supposedly creating where are our great leaders? And right there is our first and primary problem. If we want to change American women we need two things, at the very least:
1.A well define platform and agenda that a majority of men can publicly support and follow.
2.Strong and powerful leaders to rally those men and execute on that agenda.
Unfortunately, short of a Jesus miracle, I don’t see either of those happening within my lifetime. Currently, we are fighting a war without generals, without an army, and without a strategic battle plan. We are using Game to achieve some level of success on an individual level but it still remains a weapon that most men do not possess. So even if the majority of men wanted to fight they don’t even have a weapon to fight with but worse, they don’t have an objective to fight for.
It is precisely for these reasons that I admire the fight Roosh is so gallantly fighting. I may not agree with some of his positions but at least he has had the courage to stand up, in public, and fight for them. And in the end if we want to change American women that is exactly what we will have to do: stand up, in public, for our beliefs. We will have to create them, state them, and then draw a line in the sand upon which to stand.
Before I can continue I have to establish some premises on which to base my arguments. The first premise is that only a very small minority of men have Game or can be considered “Alphas”. Even being very generous, this would amount to less than 1% of men. This would also be the amount of men that are on forums like this one and reading the material that exist on it. The second premise is that the vast majority of American women, greater than 70%, are no longer capable of being the loving, affectionate women we would like them to be. The third premise, is that the traditional relationship model of men exchanging resources (money) for sex, love, affection, and children, to a great extent, is no longer valid. (As women become more and more financially independent they no longer need our money.) The fourth premise is, that women today are seeking to redefine their role in the world and in relationships. And that definition is still very much incomplete. There is no consensus among women on what and how the modern woman should be. The American feminist movement while seeking to right some of the wrongs of the past, after having done so, is not able to provide a working relationship model for men and women. We can all agree that the current relationship models do not work, marriage do not work, and that new and functional relationship models need to be created and tested. All of this has lead to a great unhappiness in both sexes.
Ok, so now, we are all in agreement that we would like American women to change but how can this be done?
What are American men doing to effect any changes in women?
Some men on here believe that Game itself is capable of changing women. They believe that Game changes men and that how these men interacting with women has the potential to change women but is this really possible? First, most men do not use Game to change women, they use it to just get sex and maybe a better short-term relationship from women. I don’t hear any of the top Game gurus either on here or anywhere else talking about changing women. Game is a tactical weapon. It has no long-term strategic objective. The scope of Bang and most pickup books ends at sex. The objective of the Game is sex, not to change women. Does having sex with a woman change her? I don’t recall ever seeing a woman change in any significant way by me having sex with them. Sure they would become more emotionally attached to me and try to please me in some ways but, by and large, they remained the same person. If Game does not have an active agenda to change women, how can it? If anything, some have argued that it has made things worse for the majority of men. The women that feels, “taken advantage of” by a guy using Game or being “pumped and dumped” then becomes bitter and extract revenge on other men. In the same way, that a lot of men who have felt mistreated by women then seek revenge, using Game, so do these women in turn do the same. In both instances, the results can ripple across many lives leaving in its wake many bitter and hurt people. It is for this reason that Game has a bad connotation with women. It’s is viewed as only slightly better than the Rape Pill. But the problem is not Game. Game is only really a way of communicating. It is just a tool set. It is how is it used that earns it it’s bad reputation. Is Game used in a constructive and productive manner or is it used in a selfish and destructive manner? That would of course depend on the individual. It could be used either way. So no, as things currently stand, I don’t see how Game will change American women and in some cases it may even make things worse.
Then there is the argument that if the current crop of women don’t have children they will just die out and that will be the end of them. Well they will have children, simply because 90% of the men out there don’t subscribe to the beliefs expressed on here. These men will marry and have children with these women and they do. So no, they are not going to die childless, at least not most of them. But worse, much worse, are the girls these women are raising. I am fortunate to have access to a wide range of girls, from 15 – 45. If we think women today are bad, try talking to a 15 yr old. I can promise you, the next generation of women will be worse, much worse. Girls are becoming more and more like men. All of the qualities we dislike in women today, young girls have them to an even greater degree. So no, I don’t think they will go the way of the dinosaurs and just become extinct. If anything we can expect the next generation of women to be even worse than the current generation with greater predatory skills.
Then there is the manosphere movement. Which is all good and well but for all intent and purposes it is viewed as a radical, extremist movement without any clear agenda. Currently, the manosphere do not have a clear agenda that the average guy can back in any public way. Most of the writers don’t even exist in the real world as real people. They write behind aliases. It is basically an underground, cult movement at this point in terms of sheer numbers. And while they do have some valid points and ideas they also have some extreme views that a lot of men don’t feel comfortable supporting and that includes me. So without a clear platform and agenda the majority of men can support I don’t see how the manosphere will be able to have a significant impact on American women behavior.
What about importing women and leaving the country? Well, we all know what happens once a woman lives here for more than a year and how many of us will be able to leave the country? Did I miss any other way that we are trying to change American women behavior?
Any hope of changing American women will have to involve a majority of the men. I simply do not see a way around this. The role of the Alpha make in nature is to provide a strong leader. Where are our strong leaders? Where are the Alpha males of the manosphere who are standing up and saying follow me? We love to berate the average guy as being beta but yet where is the alpha male he is suppose to look up to and follow? Every successful movement was driven forward by strong leaders. Both the feminist and blacks had them and still have them. But for all of the alphas we are supposedly creating where are our great leaders? And right there is our first and primary problem. If we want to change American women we need two things, at the very least:
1.A well define platform and agenda that a majority of men can publicly support and follow.
2.Strong and powerful leaders to rally those men and execute on that agenda.
Unfortunately, short of a Jesus miracle, I don’t see either of those happening within my lifetime. Currently, we are fighting a war without generals, without an army, and without a strategic battle plan. We are using Game to achieve some level of success on an individual level but it still remains a weapon that most men do not possess. So even if the majority of men wanted to fight they don’t even have a weapon to fight with but worse, they don’t have an objective to fight for.
It is precisely for these reasons that I admire the fight Roosh is so gallantly fighting. I may not agree with some of his positions but at least he has had the courage to stand up, in public, and fight for them. And in the end if we want to change American women that is exactly what we will have to do: stand up, in public, for our beliefs. We will have to create them, state them, and then draw a line in the sand upon which to stand.