Quote: (07-22-2013 12:05 PM)Partizan Wrote:
However the chances of someone with no Russian getting a threesome in an empty club from girls with very limited English (one of them with zero) is one in a million.
I should then definitely be playing the lottery
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. But in seriousness, I'm not sure why you think I know no Russian. I've posted before several times in different places, including the Ukraine thread you link in this reply that I've taken a semester of Russian and also supplemented with Pimsleur. I have some basic Russian down, but still use translator for more specific questions/conversations. Plus it's fun. My friend who I'm with solely opens with translator. He takes it a bit farther than I would ever do, but he writes "Is this club good? We are from Los Angeles and don't know about this city." He types that on his Iphone and hands it to a girl at the club. Usually it is so loud that this works. I personally don't do this, but have no problem whipping it out to convey a point I can't make in Russian.
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Now maybe you did get the threesome but what did it take to get it? How many approaches do you make per night and if its a higher than average amount of girls who are very receptive to you initially before you use your charm, is it a "LOOKS" game that you employ?
I want to respond so that maybe my tactics will work for others. I don't really care about proving what I did but moreso maybe somebody can pick up some tips. How about I go into some detail here about my entire evening.
Sunday night we start drinking, have 4 shots of vodka each before leaving our apartment. We walk to club 1, pay entry fee and go in. Pretty dead. We sit at the bar and order another shot of vodka each.
About 5 minutes later, two girls come and sit next to us (blonde/brunette). They were probably 18-20, dressed in the same clothes. My friend opens the blonde in English, I walk over and try talking to the brunette.
Me: Do you speak english?
Her: Nyet
Me: Kak tebya zavut?
Her: (whatever random name)
She then doesn't ask me any more questions. If a girl in Russia does not ask me where I'm from, I know it's a lost cause. Nonetheless we go dance with them for a bit, then return to get some more vodka shots. We order another shot each, the girls come back, and now I'm talking to the blonde. I'm very touchy with all girls, so my hand is already on her back and somehow we start holding hands. Great I think. Then she leaves to go dance again and mind you, neither are drinking. My friend works on the brunette some more, she writes on translator for him to stop touching her (same shit I do, just casual resting of hand on back, thigh, etc.) and says she is not drinking. We take our shots and give up on these two as the blonde I was holding hands with keeps dancing and dancing like a maniac.
So that was approach one. On my right there are three girls smoking cigarettes. I approach and ask one for a light in English, she obliges. I then ask her if she speaks English, she shoos me off with her hand. That's approach two.
There are two girls at the bar on the left, later I do the same thing, ask for cigarette. Then I ask them what other bar is good because this place is dead, they suggest the next bar we go to. They were somewhat receptive, but not that attractive. Didn't really press it. That was approach 3.
We leave, 6 shots in now each, towards bar 2. I wrote above we ran into two girls on the street. I stop them and ask them if they speak English. No. So I switch to Russian, znaesh drugoy klub harasho svodenya vecherom? They tell us the same bar 2. I ask them shto voui deliete seaches? They tell me they are just going for a walk. I try to tell them to join us to no avail. They ask where I'm from, I say Los Angeles, get the ooooh Los Angeles! reaction. Somewhat intrigued they were but not enough to get them to come with us. That's approach 4.
We go to bar 2 and like I mentioned pretty dead for gaming purposes, about 20 people. The only two girls alone were what turned out to be the threesome girls. My buddy opens the taller one with his Iphone/translator. I walk over to the shorter bangs and ask her if she speaks English. She shakes her head and says "choot choot" and points to her friend as the one that speaks. I do the standard kak tebya zavut and place my hand on her back as I lean in to hear the response. The rest of the conversation went between translator and my broken russian...why are you in Novosibirsk, what are you doing here, how long you here for and were here, etc. I think at some point I danced with her for 1 minute, mind you I'm 6 shots and 1 beer in there now. The rest is explained above. So this night, approach #5. If you remember my post about the previous Saturday, I got blown out everywhere I went for the most part. Had one older girl be receptive but that was about it.
You ask me about my game and whether its a LOOKS game. Well yes and no. Looks are relative - in LA I'm average, in Novo I'm way above average. There are some really really ugly guys there, probably worst I've ever seen. That, and I dress up when I go out. I'm in a nice blazer, colored vneck, etc. I style my hair and put in some effort in my appearance. Mind you, I'm like 5'11 and 165lbs so I come across as skinny. Lots of people have met me off the board, they'd probably be better in describing me looks wise than I myself.
I touch a lot an an incidental but very calculated type of way. The girl from ladies night when I couldn't hear her, I'd grab her neck as I leaned in for clarification and then leave it there, then later massage her neck a bit. Or I'd put my hand on her exposed thigh as I leaned in to hear her better. The older girl that was receptive to me on Saturday night I put my hand on her thigh and she freaked out a bit, so I backed off and put my hand on her lower back which she was ok with. It's impossible for me to detail all this on every approach! But I can make generalizations. If they don't shy away from incidental touching I make it more known. The hand resting on the back now is stroking. The hand on the neck is now gently massaging. I need to move her slightly to get my beer? I hold her by the waist and as I let go with one hand I make sure to graze her ass.
My first night in a city has a different story than the last night. First night I don't know how long I am there, I will stay if I like it and something is there to keep me interested. I do have time so no need to weed out girls who are not down for a ONS because maybe I can get them in a date or two. Plus saying I'll stay if I have something to keep me there gives them the hope if they bang me maybe I'll stay (assuming they are interested in the first place). If it's my last night I've already been there for 10 nights and I'm leaving tomorrow. This...is...it. If they are down they know they have to fuck that night. It screens out anyone who won't give it up that night. It also pushes girls that maybe sometimes are down for ONS into doing so, because they know I'm leaving after tonight. Or if a girl is just looking for a one off, they know they'll never see me again and I can be "used."
In EE I stare uncomfortably a lot in girls' eyes if I have some connection with them already. This comes in after 30 minutes or so and if we are both drunk and flirting. They always call me out on it, and I keep staring and they eventually get flustered and diffuse it with laughter. This one is hard to explain but it works. My friends always make fun of me for this, they think I'm nuts. But it does work. I'm always repeating in my head "I want to fuck you, I want to fuck you." and that either directly or indirectly comes out in my stare/gaze I guess.
Here I've always been throwing out the zaftarak y champanski when I think I have a chance at taking them home. Has worked several times in Ukraine. And everything is relative to city to city. In Kiev I acted differently that I am now acting here. In Vegas I'm doing something completely different. And so on.
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I also refer to a previous report that yo did on Kiev that left me scratching my head and which you never explained properly.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-22324-...#pid411271
In your post you said that you
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Of my 10 nights in Ukraine, I banged 3 girls and got a BJ from a 4th.
When asked how you met these girls you said that you met them via bar game and sealed the deal within 24 hours. I also find that a bit hard to believe. No doubt mate you are a decent guy but some of the stuff you post up here brings out the skeptic in me and rightly so. I do have a right to question.
I explained this one already. The details are more than listed
here. Like I mentioned before, everyone has a right to believe or not believe.
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Slubu, I'll be back in provincial Russia or Belarus come September and I'd like to meet up with you sometime to exchange stories and stuff over a beer if you are up for it. You are a good guy.
More than happy to meet up with you. But I leave for the US on Aug 29. If you are in LA in the fall or around here earlier let me know.