[2Wycked]

I have delivered pizzas for a living for many years now. Sometimes part-time, sometimes full-time. I have worked as a manager, but primarily have been a driver.

You learn a lot about the world as a driver. Let's get the most controversial one out of the way.

1. Race & tipping

It is true that black people are the worst tippers, on average, than other races. However, it isn't as terrible as some would make it out. Once you control for class & being raised by a single mother, it explains much of difference. If you can believe it, I have actually diagrammed the demographics of my customers. I am very talkative and personable, so I glean a lot from my customers.

Part of the idea that black people are far worse tippers is the fact that getting stiffed really sucks. In your anger, you notice things that aren't all that relevant. I have kept charts, racially, of who stiffs. Blacks are significantly more likely to stiff, but when black people tip, they tend to be more generous than whites.

The worst tippers are black females who are middle-class and above. I recently had a woman in this demographic request her exact change down to the pennies. She was living in a small mansion. I suppose her penny-pinching could have helped her in life, but it pretty universal. I even had a former school teacher I delivered to who would request my discount at the store, then stiff me. I once asked her why she did so and she told me she didn't owe me anything.

Class is still the most determinate of tipping behaviors. Poor people are not universally bad tippers by any stretch - you can tell who will tip almost immediately. Maybe it is just a sixth sense I have developed, but I know almost immediately if they will tip or not. Maybe I sense their guilt over knowing they won't tip - although many people clearly don't give a damn if they stiff you or not. These sorts of people are usually young and male.

As for other races, cultural divides loom large. Asian & Indian immigrants are pretty bad at tipping, but not because they stiff, but because they often give just a dollar. I don't know much culturally about either race, so I really am grasping at straws here.

2. People are assholes when they are hungry

I have never seen so much anger than when people are angry and they don't get their food, get their order screwed up or just upset. Sometimes, I think people want to crush their problems on somebody's head and they pick an easy target in a person working a low-status job.

Just about all of the most hate directed at me has come through my job. I have worked stores with dine-in, or stores with just delivery/carryout. The dine-in's are the worst and I have seen people come to blows in the parking lot. I have seen a child beat outright in a bathroom, I have seen douchebags get arrested by an off-duty cop for beating the shit out of his girlfriend in the parking lot.

For some reason, being hungry causes people to do stupid shit. Otherwise seemingly well-adjusted people get irascible and say some extremely mean-spirited shit. I have been called, trash, worthless, dumber than shit, "not worthy of an abortion," and I need to work on my "manajorial skills." The last two are my favorites.

When working a service job like this, you need to have a thick skin or you will flame out. Just from a human relations standpoint, you really have to understand their anger is rarely about you, but their anger over service or product quality. Sometimes people are just looking for a fight. I have learned to not take it seriously.

3. Dinner rushes are can be fucking insane

TL;DR version: If you are not on your shit, an intense dinner rush will destroy you.

If you work a store with dine-in, delivery & carryout, shit can hit the fan on any night. One the worst rushes I worked was a Monday in the middle of a heat spell in July. Should be easy right? Wrong. Had one cook, three drivers, two servers and a dishwasher. Got completely gobsmacked. I had to run cut table, wait multiple tables all the while trying to keep carryout caught up and cashing everybody out. I also had to help on make table to keep my slow-ass cook up to speed.

Sure, in the end I pocketed 40 bucks while making manager wages, but for about three hours, it was sheer insanity. You really have to be able to multi-task and keep on your grind. Situations like mean your only break is to piss. I have seen multiple people crack & walk out. I recall a female manager who burst into sobbing tears during her first intense rush as a new manager. I was just a driver at that time, but I had to run the store while she cried herself sane for like 20 minutes.

You gotta have some spine in you to survive these rushes. Still consider being understaffed. One night all I had, in store, was two drivers and a server. I had to cook everything and take about 1/3 of the tables. I had to answer phones as my drivers were on the road constantly. It was fucking brutal. One of my drivers was a retired dude and bought me a bottle of Sailor Jerry (I was only 20) to reward me for putting up with all that bullshit. We drank at his crib later that night and there is a fucking hilarious story about that will I drop sometime in the drunken escapades thread.



4. Meeting women is incredibly easy

I have worked quite a bit on opening women just because you meet so many people delivering, cashing out carry-out or serving.

I am a good-looking guy, so the wheels are greased a good bit in my favor, but I have been able to score a good bit of numbers from women. If they are a regular and attractive, you have to get on that tip and get to know them & get those digits.

I have actually made friends from delivering, gotten invited to parties and gotten laid through delivery. The best is when you deliver to an apartment near yours and either plug a party you are throwing or get an invite to one. In undergrad, I met a good bit of women this way. I never cleaned up, but I did alright.

Also, for some reason, women love flirting with delivery drivers. I have heard this from other drivers, as well. Maybe it is just the cultural stereotype.

5. You learn alot about race and class

I am not going to talk about class, as I grew up in an impoverished town.

As for class, for a white guy like me, it was an instructive endeavor. I worked with a friend who didn't learn much about race in America, so it is there if you want to learn.

It is very easy to talk theoretically about the issues black people face, but it isn't as easy to actually see it & experience it first-hand. I have been there when my black manager gets called a "dumb fucking n*gger" by some fool. Unsurprisingly, white women are more likely to do this than white men.

In her own words, it isn't as common as some would suggest, but when it happens it is very obvious and often very hateful. However, she told me (and I witnessed) is that black women are often the instigators. She had multiple threats of violence - mostly from black women. She got jumped by some angry black women in the parking lot, had a plate throw at her and endless amounts of vitriolic hate spewed at her verbally.

Most of the time, she clowned the women as they often were very easy to deflect. Sometimes, though, she went IN on these women. She had some insightful things to say to them, as she often would tell them they need to fucking be somebody (get a job/take care of their kids better) in order to have value in society, not some foul-mouthed loser who yells hateful things in front of her kids.

6. Admitting you have worked delivery rubs some people the wrong way

I have a clear memory of some people in law school being extremely put off that I worked in the service industry - multiple douchebags who went to Harvard or Yale that were some the most stuck up dipshits I have every encountered.

I remember one classmate of mine, during orientation - when I explained I worked as a driver through undergrad - sighing loudly and actually said that it "really spoke to quality of the incoming class." I recall another person saying I was an affirmative action sympathy case. This is completely liberal law school - I was further alienated because I wasn't a Democrat.

You tell a lot about somebody by how they treat people who work in lower-status professions. I handled every insult gracefully, deflecting with humor or outright stomping them out. Still, you get a picture of a self-absorbed snob for these sorts of people. Often, they are first ones talking about class oppression or misogyny - in real life they don't give a damn about anybody who doesn't elevate their social status.

7. It is a great job for college-aged men

For any the younger cats on the forum, understand delivering pizzas is a great way to make cash and meet people. If you have a good sense of direction and can handle assholes, I recommend taking up the job. You will always have cash on hand and will meet a wide variety of people.

8. It teaches you to be humble

I have learned a lot from delivering, but one the most important lessons is humility. When you start out, you got to pay your dues to move up the ladder. Every store will have some long term drivers that often are dicks. You have to prove yourself to be capable of the grind.

Also, consider the heated nature of the job. The first time some random person dumps on you badly it can hurt. Since I was just 18 when I started, the first time somebody really went in on me it hurt very much. However, you learn to deal with. I had some asshole tonight bitch me out and I didn't even blink an eye when I told how sorry we were about his experience and that we would give him a credit for a free pizza.

It isn't just humility, but also confidence. You learn to deal with angry & hateful people - if you aware enough, you learn to deal with them in a way that is healthy and mature. It can be tough, as some people are begging for a verbal ass-beating, but it is almost always best to let it go. Let them look like the asshole for bleating on with no vengeful response from you.

The job teaches you respect for low-paid but high-stress jobs like in the service industry. The difficultly in the job doesn't lie in the actual work contracted for, but in the day-to-day grind of rushes, assholes and the stressful nature of the job. Still, it is a job I will never regret taking on and have multiple positive memories from the experience.

[cardguy]

You should drop a note on this thread when you share your drunken story on the drinking thread. Since it is easy to lose track of posts on those big threads...

[j r]

I don't think that I've ever heard a description of law school that didn't make the majority of people in it sound like absolutely terrible people. When you consider that lawyers account for a sizable percentage of the most powerful and influential positions in this country, things really start to make sense.

[AntiTrace]

(07-13-2013 07:34 AM)j r Wrote:  

I don't think that I've ever heard a description of law school that didn't make the majority of people in it sound like absolutely terrible people. When you consider that lawyers account for a sizable percentage of the most powerful and influential positions in this country, things really start to make sense.

Agreed. I think that is because the reputation that law school has.

Every person I know going to law school thinks they are going to graduate and the next day walk into a 6 figure job. It gives them a sense of entitlement that is far beyond what they deserve.

Society fuels this by also buying into the image of a high powered corporate lawyers walking the earth raining cash on posh parties and jetsetting around the world in their free time.

The majority of law school students that look down on the low status jobs do so because it threatens them and their dreams. They believe they are head and shoulders above the rest of the average society. These are always your IVY league students or students that come from well off families that have believed they were better then everyone else from the get go. Having the guy that just delivered them their pizza the night before score higher on a test goes against everything they have known.

But that can be said about a lot of things in life.

[Belize King]

Love the post. +1 from me. I never knew black people are horrible tippers till I heard that this year. My Dad always tips regardless of the service. My family is from Belize sonour background is different from Black America.

Black females are shitheads. No way around it. Of course we are talking in general. There are grimey people and good people but for the most part it is something about them. I lived in New Orleans for five years so that is the closest I have come to Black culture growing up military. I still cant put my finger on why black bishes or hood bishes in general act they way they do. Trailer park hoes arent compareable to hoodrats yet they come from the same social economic background. Is it just because of the men? I wonder what is the reason.

I never worked in the food industry except for working as a busboy at Ihop for three weeks. Never had to deal with asshole customers in my life so its entertaining hearing stories about people ways.

[vinman]

You reminded me of something funny that I never knew until I joined the military.
1. Black people can't swim. I grew up swimming and so did all of my friends, so when people saw me swimming it was like they saw a unicorn.

2. Black people are lousy tippers. I've always tipped, I was taught to tip by relatives that worked in the service industry. It'a all about how you are raised.

[sucio44]

Back in high school, I remember telling my dad that my friend, who was a waiter at Red Lobster, said black people (especially church groups) are horrible tippers. The look on his face was priceless. He was a good tipper before I told him--then he started tipping better.

I did an unofficial survey with the black people I used to work with about tipping. Turns out the darker the black person--the lighter the tip. And the women were the cheapest.

PS Black women are asswipes--except my mom.

[Roosh]

What is the minimum % people should tip for pizza delivery?

[Don Corleone]

What are we supposed to do with this information?

I sincerely don't intend this as a slight against you, as I like many of your posts. I truly am unsure of your aim. It's all generalization based upon your experiences in one city. It may be true for that area, but nationwide? Your post claims absolutes when really you reference a subjective reality within a corner of America. You learned about your area but it doesn't justify such broad claims to the nature of things.

Do you recommend this profession? It seems to have some advantages, but if given the chance to pursue other opportunities, would you recommend something else to the young dogs? The disadvantages you mentioned had a great impact on my choice in response.

[NY Digital]

(07-13-2013 12:01 PM)Don Corleone Wrote:  

What are we supposed to do with this information?

I sincerely don't intend this as a slight against you, as I like many of your posts. I truly am unsure of your aim. It's all generalization based upon your experiences in one city. It may be true for that area, but nationwide? Your post claims absolutes when really you reference a subjective reality within a corner of America. You learned about your area but it doesn't justify such broad claims to the nature of things.

Do you recommend this profession? It seems to have some advantages, but if given the chance to pursue other opportunities, would you recommend something else to the young dogs? The disadvantages you mentioned had a great impact on my choice in response.

Oh god you sound like a damn feminist.

"Oh my god you're GENERALIZING. OMG."

Useless post.

[Anon-A-Moose]

(07-13-2013 10:19 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

What is the minimum % people should tip for pizza delivery?

I personally would say 15%, but I've tipped more. According to some I'm generous though.

[Kingsley Davis]

@ 2Wycked, this gentlemen explained what you dealt with by a certain demographic.

[WestIndianArchie]

(07-13-2013 12:01 PM)Don Corleone Wrote:  

What are we supposed to do with this information?

I sincerely don't intend this as a slight against you, as I like many of your posts. I truly am unsure of your aim. It's all generalization based upon your experiences in one city. It may be true for that area, but nationwide? Your post claims absolutes when really you reference a subjective reality within a corner of America. You learned about your area but it doesn't justify such broad claims to the nature of things.

Do you recommend this profession? It seems to have some advantages, but if given the chance to pursue other opportunities, would you recommend something else to the young dogs? The disadvantages you mentioned had a great impact on my choice in response.

They're thought pieces.

There's plenty here that you can take action from

1) considering a career in service - stick to lily white price-unconscious areas.

2) realize dealing with hungry people is dealing with a hostile crowd - so you should learn emotional judo techniques to turn their anger into your advantage.

3) Crisis moments can create great camaraderie afterwards - so be ready with the liquor when the office crazy is over - real easy to bond with people you wouldn't normally bond with

4) Getting money out of women is the same as getting sex out of them, possibly better. So if you can engineer shit where she has to open her purse, you can open her legs.

5) White people can actually see that racism still exists, but threats also come from within as well. When one's reality about race goes from abstract to concrete - there are choices you may make will change.

Say you're a white guy trying to talk to a black chick. If you go in knowing that 1) white people will say/and do some foul shit to her, 2) black women/people have probably said and done some foul shit to her - you then understand her generally defensive attitude about everything - and that she will have insurmountable suspicion about what your true motives and desires.

6) If you're rolling with the economically and socially privileged, you have to be mindful of the people who will disrespect your humble beginnings.

From a helicopter position, i'd assume that it was richer and better socialized white people calling out 2Wycked for being white trash, but you can't ever tell these days. Indians, Asians, and Middle Easterners sometimes adopt the views of the middle/professional class white people when it suits them or endears them to the group.

7) Delivery jobs are a great way to get a foundation for socialization and money - both of which help game tremendously

8) These kinds of jobs can build mental toughness.

In general, 2Wycked drops lots of intellectual candy. (although his liquorice comments can be tossed) Maybe as he enters the profession, he'll get better at taking the theory and turning it into practical advice for lay people.

WIA

[2Wycked]

@Roosh

I agree with the 15% rule. Still, the minimum tip would be 3 bucks.

Even when I just get Jimmy John's delivery - just a sandwich - I still give 3 bucks even thought the bill is small.

Five bucks, for regular deliveries (15-30 bucks) is still the best approach. I have noticed a few regulars tipping a bit more (6 to 7) on their orders.

@Don Corleone

I have worked in 3 different cities, all over 100K in population.

Like WIA said, these are just thoughts. The title indicated it was merely me musing on working in the profession for multiple years.

Further, I was an active member of a pizza delivery driver board years back. Dudes from Seattle, North Dakota & Alabama would agree with, at least, most of this post. I know that because I have heard their similar stories about delivery.

@Kingsley Davis

Interesting video. Sotomayor is a the real deal, for sure.

@WIA

It's true my posts are more intellectual musings than anything else; still, for young guys like me, it is about me wrapping my head around the world around me.

I will certainly drop more practical information when I get into the profession, but still, I will have many posts like this - just getting my thoughts together over a certain subject.

[phoenix101]

A lot of you being travellers, where does the dissonance fall in with most of the rest of the non-Anglo world not having the unwritten tipping tradition/culture that the US/Canada have? Do you consider any argument against the ridiculousness of tipping considering Euros don't make anymore of a living wage than Americans do in the service industry?

Maybe all these black people see tipping for the ridiculousness that it is? A price is a price...they paid the price now get out. How would you view French/Italian/Japanese/whatever coming here and not giving any tip or rounding up to the nearest dollar?

[Art Pimp]

I usually hit them off with 3-5 bucks. Three for a single pie and five if I had some friends over and ordered more shit. It may be somewhat dependent on the order total, if it was like $15.35 and everything is smooth, I'll just give him a 20 spot every time. Also depends on the time to an extent, but mostly if the driver was friendly and not some scumbag just demanding money out of me. The time is probably not often the driver's fault, I know y'all are hustling out there!

[samsamsam]

I think his threads are very insightful and I am able to expand my knowledge of the world through his experiences. By the likes received, clearly he is reaching people in some way.

His post made me consider finding a part time job at a pizza place (though LA is terrible for doing delivery), just to have some different experiences. Not even for the girls, just observing life that I never experience. I also thought riding along in a cab at 2AM in LA would be pretty wild also. I probably won't because I have a lot of projects going on, but for a brief moment I thought if that would be an experience worth having - just to see how others live.

And there are a lot of nuggets on dealing with people. A little reminder that most of time the issue is just their issue they are venting, not to take it personally, etc.

And I discovered that I am not tipping enough.

[2Wycked]

@S

I have heard that about delivery in LA. I don't know why, but drivers have been known to bitch about LA.

The best market for delivery are mid-sized cities, like Memphis, Cincinnati, or smaller cities like college towns or cities between 100k to 200k.

If your opening game is solid, you can really work the angle of the driver. Like I said, many women are very open to flirting with a driver. Really. It would a be great part-time job if you have the time just for the possibility every night of opening attractive women. It isn't just that, as the tips are legit & some nights you can really clean up.

Just tonight I made 80 bucks on 14 deliveries. That, easily, is groceries for the week and a couple quality bottles of booze with some cash to spare. That is one night. I close tomorrow and work a late on Monday. Easily another 100 bucks. Solid.

[Samseau]

I delivered pizza for 9 months before I went to law school. Great experience. There weren't many black people where I delivered so I can't comment on them being horrible tippers or not, but one thing I learned was how to game my customers.

For example, on a bright sunny day, I walked into a old man's home with religious icons and crosses hanging off the walls. I told him, "God gave us this beautiful day." $20 tip.

Another time there was a large after-wedding party, and I delivered $200 of pizza. There was a huge party going on and people encouraged me to join in so I did. I danced with old cougars and flirted with kittens and all the guys were like, "HAHAHA the pizza guy is dancing." $30 tip.

Another time I delivered to a really rich dude's house $150 worth of pizza. I just told him, "Nice house." $40 tip.

Thinking back about it now, delivering pizza is definitely good game/sales practice.

[MrXY]

Came into this thread ready for stories of women opening the door with their robe hanging open and naked underneath and pulling the delivery boy inside for a sex romp.

Left disappointed

[samsamsam]

(07-14-2013 03:37 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

@S

I have heard that about delivery in LA. I don't know why, but drivers have been known to bitch about LA.

I have never asked a pizza delivery person if it was hard or not. But I think for the following reasons it would be hard.

1)Traffic - just throughout the day
2)I am sure lots of dinner delivery during rush hour would suck hardest
3)Finding parking - I see it a lot cars with hazards on - not sure how merciful parking cops are (the answer not really)
4)Starving actors - I doubt they tip a ton, though hot chicks could be the reward
5)LA is filled with a lot of young people with attitude (not trying to steal from the LA thread) - I bet it is them that order the most pizza.

[Beyond Borders]

(07-13-2013 02:05 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

If you can believe it, I have actually diagrammed the demographics of my customers.

Seriously? Damn - that's really going the extra mile...I like the curiosity you bring to life, Man. Something we could all stand to use a bit of.

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3. Dinner rushes are can be fucking insane

TL;DR version: If you are not on your shit, an intense dinner rush will destroy you.

If you work a store with dine-in, delivery & carryout, shit can hit the fan on any night. One the worst rushes I worked was a Monday in the middle of a heat spell in July. Should be easy right? Wrong. Had one cook, three drivers, two servers and a dishwasher. Got completely gobsmacked. I had to run cut table, wait multiple tables all the while trying to keep carryout caught up and cashing everybody out. I also had to help on make table to keep my slow-ass cook up to speed.

Sure, in the end I pocketed 40 bucks while making manager wages, but for about three hours, it was sheer insanity. You really have to be able to multi-task and keep on your grind. Situations like mean your only break is to piss. I have seen multiple people crack & walk out. I recall a female manager who burst into sobbing tears during her first intense rush as a new manager. I was just a driver at that time, but I had to run the store while she cried herself sane for like 20 minutes.

You gotta have some spine in you to survive these rushes. Still consider being understaffed. One night all I had, in store, was two drivers and a server. I had to cook everything and take about 1/3 of the tables. I had to answer phones as my drivers were on the road constantly. It was fucking brutal. One of my drivers was a retired dude and bought me a bottle of Sailor Jerry (I was only 20) to reward me for putting up with all that bullshit. We drank at his crib later that night and there is a fucking hilarious story about that will I drop sometime in the drunken escapades thread.

I worked in the restaurant industry for many years waiting tables and a little bartending. I think people who have never done it fail to realize just how challenging these jobs can be. Some of my friends acted like I didn't actually work for a living because I wasn't doing manual labor but I've done both and often found waiting tables to be the more taxing of the two.

Holding down a rush is insane and sometimes you stagger in the door late at night feeling like you just ran a marathon. Highly stressful and exhausting work.

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6. Admitting you have worked delivery rubs some people the wrong way

I have a clear memory of some people in law school being extremely put off that I worked in the service industry - multiple douchebags who went to Harvard or Yale that were some the most stuck up dipshits I have every encountered.

I remember one classmate of mine, during orientation - when I explained I worked as a driver through undergrad - sighing loudly and actually said that it "really spoke to quality of the incoming class." I recall another person saying I was an affirmative action sympathy case. This is completely liberal law school - I was further alienated because I wasn't a Democrat.

You tell a lot about somebody by how they treat people who work in lower-status professions. I handled every insult gracefully, deflecting with humor or outright stomping them out. Still, you get a picture of a self-absorbed snob for these sorts of people. Often, they are first ones talking about class oppression or misogyny - in real life they don't give a damn about anybody who doesn't elevate their social status.

Thank God I don't have to deal with people of this "caliber" in my life. Remind me to never return to the real world.

I think you'll see a lot of benefits in life from having stepped into both realities.

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7. It is a great job for college-aged men

For any the younger cats on the forum, understand delivering pizzas is a great way to make cash and meet people. If you have a good sense of direction and can handle assholes, I recommend taking up the job. You will always have cash on hand and will meet a wide variety of people.

I agree 100%. And waiting tables is great work too. You really learn solid social skills constantly approaching strangers and keeping them entertained and happy. And you meet a lot of cool people - the ones who have made it their career to show others a good time, which means a lot of them know how to eat, party, and have an all-around good time.

I actually miss working in hospitality a lot. It certainly comes with its share of challenges but I sometimes toy with the idea of heading back to America and relocating to Napa Valley to work my way up in the wine industry. I went out there to visit a friend earlier this year who works at high-end restaurant as a wine-server, working her way towards becoming a sommelier, and it did not seem like a bad life at all.

The talent seemed pretty decent in Napa too - a lot of young, hot women who move out there to work in the industry.

But then, I guess that would be a return to the real world.

I never worked in delivery but I could certainly see it having its perks for a younger guy.

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8. It teaches you to be humble

I have learned a lot from delivering, but one the most important lessons is humility. When you start out, you got to pay your dues to move up the ladder. Every store will have some long term drivers that often are dicks. You have to prove yourself to be capable of the grind.

Also, consider the heated nature of the job. The first time some random person dumps on you badly it can hurt. Since I was just 18 when I started, the first time somebody really went in on me it hurt very much. However, you learn to deal with. I had some asshole tonight bitch me out and I didn't even blink an eye when I told how sorry we were about his experience and that we would give him a credit for a free pizza.

It isn't just humility, but also confidence. You learn to deal with angry & hateful people - if you aware enough, you learn to deal with them in a way that is healthy and mature. It can be tough, as some people are begging for a verbal ass-beating, but it is almost always best to let it go. Let them look like the asshole for bleating on with no vengeful response from you.

The job teaches you respect for low-paid but high-stress jobs like in the service industry. The difficultly in the job doesn't lie in the actual work contracted for, but in the day-to-day grind of rushes, assholes and the stressful nature of the job. Still, it is a job I will never regret taking on and have multiple positive memories from the experience.

This was the most difficult part for me. I'm not a very confrontational person whatsoever, and in fact usually avoid it to a fault, but when someone confronts me and I don't have the choice of just walking away my impulse is to explode, which I've been known to do from time to time. It always blew my mind how people will say things to you when you're working a service job that they wouldn't in a million years say to you on the street.

You learn to deal but it was definitely a sticking point for me and I came very close to kicking a few customers' asses.

Having thick skin is not a bad quality to cultivate though so I suppose in some ways I walked away from it a better man in learning how to be a bit mellower in these situations.

Cool post. Only 2Wycked could take something as seemingly mundane as delivering pizzas and make it seem interesting.

[Dusty]

(07-13-2013 07:54 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

Every person I know going to law school thinks they are going to graduate and the next day walk into a 6 figure job. It gives them a sense of entitlement that is far beyond what they deserve.

[MikeCF]

Nice first person report, man.

What you wrote reminds me a lot of waiting tables.

In many ways waiting tables was the most stressful job I've ever had.

[renotime]

You got any horror/interesting stories 2wycked?

I have a buddy that once delivered pizza to an adult superstore and they gave him some videos out of the bargain bin as a tip.