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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 03:43 PM
Let's hope the egyptian people don't screw it up the next time an election comes around. I'm not optimistic though - their economy is nearing bankruptcy and there is no tourist money to save them.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 03:55 PM
So within two years of overthrowing Mubarak, the military now ousts this guy? Egypt is heading towards an even tighter Islamic government or maybe even a failed state if this keeps up. As ao85 said tourism is almost dead in Egypt and their economy is in shambles. Need to get their shit together.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 03:59 PM
Egypt needs an Ataturk-type guy to take control. I have a sneaking suspicion that the only people available are small-minded men who are more interested in lining their pockets and with power rather than the welfare of the Egyptian people and building a stable and prosperous nation. I'm glad I was there while Mubarak was in charge, had a great time.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 04:07 PM
We need a uprising in Australia too, or at least a election date set, the people have had a gut full of the ALP, time to go Dudd
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 05:43 PM
There is no justification for any military coup. Everybody in Egypt has lost today. It seems like the problem is not the Morsi's policies carrying out, Tahrir just don't demand an Islamist government. As long as they can manage keeping religion out of politics, everything will turn out to be ok however I wonder how could be the election make it all any better since majority of the people have religious tendencies.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 05:51 PM
How unlikely is it they'll ever get tourism going again while the gubmint is the "Muslim Brotherhood"? Anyone with Mideast living experience know how that plays with Europeans?
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 05:55 PM
FINALLY. Things can at last look up for Egypt, Morsi was just another pawn, the arabs need to obliterate the Muslim Brotherhood, for their own sake!
"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 10:46 PM
The news is refusing to give context. Only focusing on the (impressive) images of the protests. If anybody has been following this story from the start (Arab Spring) you could of see this coming. The Arab Spring was not real, nor was the backlash as big as this. Egyptians are pissed off since they got played like dupes (twice). The M-Brotherhood, Morssi, etc were all Western stooges and never had any real intention to truly govern. They love the formalities but could never get any concrete policy in place.
The military has been sitting licking its chops, waiting for the M-Brotherhood to flop. If people think they army will have daisies and democracy on the other end they are smoking that good stuff. The Army will put the clamp down and cool down the over radical Islamic tones present in the country now, but "democracy" won't be on the table going forward for some time. Can legit candidates come to the fold? Whom would want that job right now with radical creeps, western whores, and the military chilling hovering over your shoulders.
This was a major chess piece of Hillary Clinton also. The State Dept was the soft hand behind the Arab Spring as a policy push to radicalize and fracture many Arab states. It's all coming back to to implode.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-03-2013, 11:11 PM
Rather than encouraging democracy this guarantees that democracy in Egypt is now doomed. Every single democratically elected leader will now have to look out to the support of the military for his legitimacy because the precedent of the military overthrowing the government is now set, the military will once again become the most powerful branch of the government.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-04-2013, 03:53 AM
I think that staging a military coup to design societies is not a correct thing in the 21st century, and it shouldn’t be accepted. I hope that democracy will triumph soon and whoever take the charge, won't be ignoring the people's demands.
We have the same problem in Turkey. We seem like a totally democratic and secular country. The PM who got the power for more than 10 years have been deaf and ignoring the minorities voice. That's why the protests occurred in Turkey. Democracy doesn't mean that 'I have the majority of the votes, so I do what I want'. They have to listen people' voice!
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-06-2013, 02:18 AM
Muslim Brotherhood is bullshit. The only reason Morsi won was because MB was the only organized party. They were even organized while Mubarak was in power, even as he created a political system in which his power could never be threatened. Egyptians didn't have much of a choice after Mubarak stepped down. Everything happened so fast and MB was the only group ready to move in. But now everyone knows that the current regime isn't what they signed up for. MB is continuing Mubarak's style of governance and reaping all of the benefits they have long sought, at the expense of the Egyptian people and their tanking economy. The coup presents new problems but at least the people are behind it and all the big stakeholders (non-MB sunnis, christians, shia, and seculars) are in support as well.
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-06-2013, 07:57 AM
Quote: (07-03-2013 03:59 PM)Menace Wrote:
Egypt needs an Ataturk-type guy to take control. I have a sneaking suspicion that the only people available are small-minded men who are more interested in lining their pockets and with power rather than the welfare of the Egyptian people and building a stable and prosperous nation. I'm glad I was there while Mubarak was in charge, had a great time.
The country was better with Mubarak? I also believe that some countries should be ruled by militars till they build a more stable society with well educated middle class
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Military ousts Morsy in Egypt coup
07-06-2013, 09:27 AM
U.S. interests in the region were best fulfilled under the secular leadership of Hosni Mubarak. A democracy in any of these islamic countries is only going to lead to an islamist state. Salafism, the radical wing of islam that is most responsible for terrorism, is quite often a big backer of the revolutions that lead to these islamic states and is likely to spread if more such states are established. Anti-American sentiment is always highest in such states.