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Quote: (07-29-2010 06:30 AM)Hunterdoingfieldresearch Wrote:
Tha Fundamentals:
Confidence, Approaching, Masculinity, Body Language, Humor, Style.
I agree, I truly believe that these fundamentals is all you need in the game...
I have a good example of a ex-worker at our company. He had to explain me about the work he did, so i'll could take over when he was on vacation. So after a while it became a more social talk. He was the first to tell me about pick-up artists and the whole world behind it. He was a true believer of all the theories. He took a plane to chicago for a seminar of david d. angelo...read all the stuff about seducing etcetc....
I was a bit critical about it, but he truly believed it was the only way to get the girl you wanted.
After a while i ran into him in my local bar and he was with another douchebag drinking some beers and "sarging" for the local girls. The style of both of them was goofy and not really up-to-date. It was obvious in the hole bar/dancing: these guys are really pathetic. I was with my crew and i am lucky to be surrounded with the popular people/ girls in my life. These douchebags stood there and watched me dancing and making fun with 7s and 8s and maybe higher.
And this guy (the real pick-up fanatic) told me all the stories about how many girls he had etcetc and had a really big mouth dating and fucking 2 girls at the same time. There was a party of my company and he walked in with the two girls and the girls were below 5s (just 2 ugly fatties)
Final conclusion: first you have to get the fundamentals and basics of a interesting guy and then it can be helpful to know some theory about pick-up. Not the other way around.
I know when I first started learning and applying game teachings and I saw how well they worked, I did get a little obsessed with it and all of its teachings, but who among us didn't?
I never shelled out 2 g's for a bootcamp or anything like that (that's just wack, details below), but I read over and over and over everything about it. It really got to the point where I was thinking more about the principles than the end results.
While knowing a few tricks comes in handy, getting too deep into it will make you fall apart micromanaging your interactions with women, which isn't what you want to do.
As I mentioned, 90/10 fundamentals/learned knowledge. The guy who is confident, assertive, approaches often, dresses well, can make girls laugh and stands like a man but fails shit tests and doesn't ever employ things like negs and asshole game will get a lot better results than the guy who window-dresses his inability to be any of those things with a sharp tongue and a knowledge of theory.
That's really my problem with bootcamps and field days and the like. Getting good with women isn't something you can do in a day, it takes probably about a year of learning game plus some image management and a little bit of self-actualization to get it done.
But of course, the fundamentals down + a few good standby negs, a dose of assholery and adequate knowledge of the theory is crisp money.