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How to start training Calisthenics?
#51

How to start training Calisthenics?

Imo, Bruce Lee with a tad bit more muscle is an ideal male physique for most females. It depends on what you want. If you want to have 18 inch guns and really stand out in a night club, than free weights(and vitamin S) will better serve you. One thing I have learned is the muscle obsession is a uniquely American(or perhaps anglo) phenomenon. Euro girls don't really go for the look...
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#52

How to start training Calisthenics?

There's FINA world championship in Barcelona going on at the moment; check out Eurosport chanell for high-diving / diving competitors. Their physiques are realistic representatives what you can expect of bodyweight training (despite I know a guy who also trained with weights, their training mostly resembles the one in gymnastics / acrobatics).

Bruce Lee never trained to get huge, if I remember correctly from his memoirs. He trained for power & speed, and more size would hinder his kung fu abilities. What matters is the purpose of your training; size, max strength, power or endurance? Adjust your training regimes according to your goals.

Convict Conditioning 1 has a good insight how to make half of the gains in strength/power and the other half in size, so the training program is more of a compromise between the two. Al Kavadlo's focus, if I am correct, is more on pure strength than size.

@Eastbound:
He is correct. Girls who go crazy for huge fitness guys are exceptions, and usually belong to 'white trash' as you call it in the US. And the guys are considered meatheads.
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#53

How to start training Calisthenics?

I'm no expert at all but my friend Mike is a fitness nut and ripped as hell. Calisthenics is his thing. Here's how he explained it to me.

Everyday I want you to do 100 push-ups, sit-ups or whatever. It doesn't matter how you break it up. 10 sets of 10, 20 sets of 5 ...even 50 sets of 2.

The point is to do 100 in a day. Eventually you'll get used to it and get stronger. Then you start doing more reps and less sets until you can do 1 set of 100.

Then you just have to maintain it.

Team Nachos
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#54

How to start training Calisthenics?

Quote: (07-23-2013 06:50 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2013 07:14 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  

Here's a couple options if you're serious about bodyweight stuff.

If you just want to fool around with calisthenics, get a copy of al kavadlos books Raising the Bar and Pushing the Limits and then just work through the progressions and see how far you get. Convict Conditioning follows a similar vein to this form of training.

Anyone have any reviews on these books?

Anyone recommend which one to pick up first?

After this summer I am going to go heavy into this stuff (have a different focus for next two months).

All of these books are pretty expensive. If I had to buy one first I would get Convict Conditioning, but create your own programming protocol to fit your schedule. He does not include enough volume in the book to make reasonable gains. I think you can train one movement, like pushups, five or six times per week and make better gains than if you just did it twice per week.

For example, I train handstands every day as a finisher because I want to get to a proper handstand pushup.

If you have a good pullup bar setup, 'Raising the Bar' would also be a great investment. There's not much in "Pushing the Limits" that is not already in Convict Conditioning.

I would just get a notebook and troll various articles on Al Kavadlo's website for information, to be honest, since both of his books were a little disappointing in terms of content.

Incorporating a mix of isometrics and isotonics into your daily workouts (isometrics can safely be worked every day) is the best strategy because each movement, particularly if you organize it as a pull and a press, will create a positive feedback loop and create faster strength and muscle gains.

This article in particular is probably one of the best short articles on something everybody should be doing. It might take two or three years to master the last progression but the strength increases are pretty amazing.

http://www.dragondoor.com/articles/build...ditioning/
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#55

How to start training Calisthenics?

Quote: (05-15-2013 02:37 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

It is possible to get huge using purely bodyweight exercises. Look on YouTube for Bartendaz, CalisthenicsKingz, Hannibal, Jim Bathurst from Beast Skills
Don't know the other guys but the Beast Skills blogger does not use bw only exercises.
http://www.beastskills.com/so-what-are-y...ifts-then/
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Back Squat: 415 lbs – training
Deadlift: 500 lbs – trap bar training, 500 lbs – straight bar
competition (sumo)
Clean and Jerk: 120 KG – competition, 125 KG – training
Snatch: 90 KG – competition, 95 KG – training
Weighted Chin-up: +160 lbs
Weighted Dip: +180 lbs
Overhead Press: 220 lbs
Bench Press: 300 lbs – competition, 305 lbs training

Quote: (07-25-2013 02:22 AM)Eastbound Wrote:  

Imo, Bruce Lee with a tad bit more muscle is an ideal male physique for most females.

It's been over 10 years since I read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do but I'm pretty sure Bruce Lee did barbell exercises and recommended lifting heavy weights for all martial artists.
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How to start training Calisthenics?

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#57

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^^^ That gif with Frank Medrano, he's extremely strong, but he's vegan. If he ate meat he'd look better, in my opinion.
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#58

How to start training Calisthenics?

Pull Ups are more intense if you wear ankle weights and/or a weighted vest.
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#59

How to start training Calisthenics?

Any opinions on the book 'you are your own gym' good, bad?
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#60

How to start training Calisthenics?

Quote: (09-14-2013 03:42 PM)gfly Wrote:  

Any opinions on the book 'you are your own gym' good, bad?

Its not bad but convict conditioning is more bang for your buck.
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#61

How to start training Calisthenics?

Body built by Calesthenics and running...but you better eat well!
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How to start training Calisthenics?






Good Video

He also has a number of WOD Videos posted. Going to give a few a try.
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#63

How to start training Calisthenics?

Quote: (01-17-2014 12:55 AM)bigxxx Wrote:  






Good Video

He also has a number of WOD Videos posted. Going to give a few a try.

Killer video. This guy's a madman.

I watched WOD#1 though. Pistol squats? Hope you're in pretty good shape already - not exactly for beginners. Most calisthenic programs start with progressions. Suppose you can just make adjustments as needed or just pull out some cool exercises to put in your own workouts.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
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How to start training Calisthenics?

Quote: (09-14-2013 11:20 AM)BLarsen Wrote:  

^^^ That gif with Frank Medrano, he's extremely strong, but he's vegan. If he ate meat he'd look better, in my opinion.

He could also get bigger if he just ate more.

Not to mention that in one interview I heard him do, he mentioned he does "hard cardio" to stay ripped, and then he's eating nothing more than a couple cups of oatmeal for breakfast with 1 or 2 bananas (as an example of one meal)...

It doesn't sound like he's all that interested in getting any bigger.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
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#65

How to start training Calisthenics?

Calisthenics and weightlifting can work in tandem.

If you plateau with weights, you can increase your endurance/flexibility/agility with various calisthenics exercises and vice versa. If you get bored from doing situps, pushups, HSPUs, etc., you can use deadlifts & squats to reach goals in pure strength. Personally, I like both.

I don't much like cardio. I should man up and run more though.
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#66

How to start training Calisthenics?

I've been on and off of weightlifting for at least six years and recently switched to calisthenics. I play pick-up basketball at least three times a week and I was looking for something to help my game out. Additionally, even though I was progressing on major lifts I still couldn't do a lot of pushups/pull-ups/dips. I am a 225 pound guy and was never able to do more than three pull-ups despite all of my weightlifting.

Anyways, I read Convict Conditioning and it's great. The thing about calisthenics is that you really need to be in touch with your body in regards to how you are progressing. If you can lift 225 on bechpress but your form is terrible, many gym rats will say "hell yeah put on another plate!" In reality, they should be working on that weight some more until they go ahead. This is something I was guilty of and calisthenics has helped a lot.

Something that a lot of weightlifters don't realize is that bodyweight fitness is about progressing. It's not about doing more and more push-ups. This is something covered extensively in Convict Conditioning. CC suggests that you move to certain rep counts for each exercise, then move up to the next progression of the movement. This naturally creates a cycle of heavy weight/low rep building up to low weight/high rep, then progress. Now when I leave a progression behind, I can do 20-30 reps of it with perfect form.

I've only been doing CC for about six months and I've definitely seen gains. My flexibility and core strength are improving, and my joint stability is better. I don't strictly do the CC routine because I do other leg routines, but I combined CC with start bodyweight . Start bodyweight is a GREAT site and hopefully the author starts posting more.

If anybody has any questions about bodyweight fitness or would like a copy of CC feel free to PM me.
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#67

How to start training Calisthenics?

Quote: (05-14-2013 05:56 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2013 05:49 PM)BLarsen Wrote:  

I think your idea of calisthenics is limited. when I think of calisthenics I'm including the entire range of gymnastic exercises. that's all "street workouts" are, modified gymnastic workouts.

you've seen competitive male gymnasts and the skills they have. it takes a lot of strength to do those movements.

how do you make calisthenics more difficult? decrease leverage. do a two armed movement with one arm. hold for time. pyramid sets. slow tempo.

http://www.adonisindex.com/the-illusion-...ymnastics/

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For comparison, the average height of a man in north america is 5’10. The average height of the mens gymnastics competitors I looked up with closer to 5’5. In north america 5’5 is a short man, no other way to say it. The mens gymnasts are also very light compared to average even tho they exhibit significant muscular development. Their bodyweights are in in the 120-140lbs range. Again this is very light compared to an average man.

Gymnasts are not powerful, they have tiny bodies and low body fat custom made for the specific sport. We done here yet?

Regarding your 'powerful' bodybuilder and weak gymnast!
How can you be consider powerful or strong if you are able to bench press a lot but can't even lift your own bodyweight?
I doubt the athletes in ancient Greece/Rome had complex workout routines.
All they did was bodyweight exercises, throw some heavy shit around and sprint. If you look at their physiques, they can still be considered as the optimum and most aesthetic.
I personally weight lifting twice a week and do a calisthenic twice a week as well.
I find training legs and doing Bench, Deadlifts, Military Presses in the gym and pull ups/dips/pushups/core work at home is the perfect combo





“No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”
-Socrates
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#68

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I can pretty much only tell what worked for me.

At the moment, I'm 178 cm and 83 kg, with decent muscle definition. I don't go to the gym, I haven't in years. I do a bodyweight-only routine. What follows is a list of the exercises I'm aiming towards; I am advancing through the easier progressions of the excercises in some of these, in some I'm just building my strength a bit more solid. The reason for that purposeful plateau is that I'm aiming to be able to perform Planche pushups, and that requires some solid strength in the back lever, hip pushups and the planche hold itself before even attempting the planche pushups.

Maltese/Hip Pushups
Rings turned out Dip

Onearmed handstands
L to V Raises

5 sets

Front Lever Rows
Back Lever

3 sets

Front lever
Inverted Shrug

2 sets

I've been thinking that I might switch the Inverted shrugs for Planche holds, but that might place a bit too much strain on the front delts. I'll see. I do this M7W/F, and the progressions I use are ones I can barely do 5 reps at. The piece of equiptment I use is rings, because they're unstable, whereas a bar is not, and that makes the training harder. All in all this takes me around 80 min to do, I rest 3 min between sets unless I feel like I need more. On Tue/Thurs I do either Pistols, Bridges and unilateral calfraises or go sprinting or swimming. This routine has worked very well for me. If there's one single book to read, I would say it is Overcoming Gravity. Much, much better than any Convict Conditioning(which are IMO very bad, but that's just me). OG is a very heavy read though, so Building the Gymnastic Body can be a bit easier to start with. Also, you should check the Gymnasticbodies forums, there's lots of useful knowledge there, some of it by the US national team coach.

Also, if anyone tells you not to do squats and deadlifts, they are, in my opinion, full of shit.
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Hey everyone, been looking around here and the web for just advice with training for convict conditioning, I have the book, but apart from that don't really know much else about calisthenics and other exercises, seeing the 100 pushup a day idea here, I've started doing 100pushups a day, 75 leg raises, 50 handstand pushups and 50 pullups, although can't do the pullups daily cos I need more time to recover. That kicked my arse, cheers for that Parlay44!

Also that planche and lever progression looks interesting also.


Firstly, do you use any of the routines at the back of the book or make up your own, if so what? Most of them look too low on volume to be effective. Or basically what is a good bodyweight routine?

And do you add any additional exercises? I added in dips and found that helped a lot working my triceps, and weighted calf raises, but didn't really find that exercise to be that effective at working the calf, it seemed to work out my wrists and arms more because of the weight I was carrying.

I have free weights, a barbell, incline bench, and a chinup bar at home, so I can add weighted exercises if you think that would help.
Also I stick at plans if their simple and easy to remember like convict conditioning, or 100push ups. If I see a complicated long list of exercises, sets and weights where I have to learn ten new exercises, no way in hell will I even attempt it.

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Quote: (04-11-2015 06:24 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Firstly, do you use any of the routines at the back of the book or make up your own, if so what? Most of them look too low on volume to be effective. Or basically what is a good bodyweight routine?

Nope, never bothered using CC's routines for much longer than six weeks at a time. You're right on the low volume. The author himself said that he didn't use his own routine to get big, if he even did it.

If you want a good routine hit up the Killroy70 template on the gymnastic bodies forum or just make your own up. I like to train isometrics, then regular isotonics, and the last reps of every set has a very slow negative (like handstand pushups, for instance, last rep is a very slow decent). Since it's hard to hit legs with bodyweight then t-handle swings are the last thing to do. The routine you have posted already looks pretty solid.

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And do you add any additional exercises? I added in dips and found that helped a lot working my triceps, and weighted calf raises, but didn't really find that exercise to be that effective at working the calf, it seemed to work out my wrists and arms more because of the weight I was carrying.

Additional movements to CC? The book isn't perfect but generally I'd agree that of the "big six", only five are worth doing for reps (pushups, pullups, handstand pushups, pistol squats, leg raises), bridges are basically worthless, and many good movements could be added in instead.

I would argue that the false grip should be practiced, and the one arm pushup should just be omitted in favor of ring pushup varieties.

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I have free weights, a barbell, incline bench, and a chinup bar at home, so I can add weighted exercises if you think that would help.
Also I stick at plans if their simple and easy to remember like convict conditioning, or 100push ups. If I see a complicated long list of exercises, sets and weights where I have to learn ten new exercises, no way in hell will I even attempt it.

Some of the best workouts I ever had involved six hours of getting hammered, listening to metal, and fucking around on a dip station with weight hanging off my belt. You get out what you put in man.
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Hey thanks for the advice, I've been looking at some of the sites linked here and figured out a routine that I think will suit me fine. Ha didn't mean to sound unmotivated, I look forward to training everyday now man. I just mean complicated workouts are hard to keep track of, If I feel I need an excel spreadsheet to keep track of what I'm doing, the progress slows, whereas if I have a simple plan I can keep track of my progress in my head, so I don't always need a journal and a pen or anything.

Hmm any reason you don't like bridges? what would you do instead? or is it just doing them for reps? I start doing 'bridge pushups' and walking up and down the wall for reps recently, and actually did feel it more than usual and was sweating doing it.

ring pushup? like gymnastic rings? false grip? I'm still new to all this gonna look those things up.

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- Reciproke, posted on the Roosh V Forum.
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#72

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How do Calisthenics fare for maintaining muscle and conditioning?

I might take a month or two off from the gym this year and looking for something to do in the meantime. When I return, my hope is that after a few weeks of getting back into it I'm in better shape and doing better than before. Controlling for nutrition, of course.
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Quote: (04-13-2015 01:36 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Hey thanks for the advice, I've been looking at some of the sites linked here and figured out a routine that I think will suit me fine. Ha didn't mean to sound unmotivated, I look forward to training everyday now man. I just mean complicated workouts are hard to keep track of, If I feel I need an excel spreadsheet to keep track of what I'm doing, the progress slows, whereas if I have a simple plan I can keep track of my progress in my head, so I don't always need a journal and a pen or anything.

Hmm any reason you don't like bridges? what would you do instead? or is it just doing them for reps? I start doing 'bridge pushups' and walking up and down the wall for reps recently, and actually did feel it more than usual and was sweating doing it.

ring pushup? like gymnastic rings? false grip? I'm still new to all this gonna look those things up.

The long and short of it is that I learned what to add or omit by trying it out. Your mileage may vary.

For me, bridges are worthless since I've always had the flexibility to do them and they do basically nothing to add muscle. They will also worsen anterior pelvic tilt if the lumbar spine is not locked with the core in conjunction with insufficient thoracic extension.

Ring pushups are exactly how you'd picture them, feet propped up on something, gymnastic rings maybe six inches off the ground. Building the Gymnastic Body is a great reference for these sort of movements, as are Jordan Jovtchev's training videos (which have been uploaded to youtube but were once sold for like fifty bucks).

False grip references can be found on beastskills. It is basically the skill that all people struggle on when learning the muscle-up. While the transition strength takes time, in most people the wrists are the weakest link.

I guess other than that pick whatever you want to do. I keep my routine simple by just thrashing two or three lifts in a workout. If you like bridge pushups then keep them in your routine.

Quote: (04-14-2015 11:29 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

How do Calisthenics fare for maintaining muscle and conditioning?

It can build muscle, but it is different from barbells.
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#74

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I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but far and above the best bodyweight program out is the GymnasticBodies.com courses: Foundation, Handstand, and Rings (can't start Rings as beginner, have to work through the other two).

If you're going to commit, cough up the cash and do it right, because the progressions take a few years to get through (look at the seven moves you work up to and that won't seem as harsh as it sounds). If I'm not mistaken, you can buy F1 seperately, and if you later decided you want the whole thing, you only pay the difference for the package-deal price, instead of full price for F2, F3, and F4.

It covers muscular strength AND joint prep. Outside of the workout, you only need to worry about a couple cardio sessions per week, and taking care of the nutrition side of it yourself. It's a damn fine program. The "pseudo-gymnastic" stuff is really just aspiring to this stuff.

Again, don't put the money down if you're not planning to commit. 4 days a week, less than an hour a day, so it's not like it requires a lifestyle rearrangement. Though you will need simple gymnastic equipment at certain points.
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I had some sort of a meltdown lately about weightlifting. It may sound weird but something has changed in a way that I'm no longer excited about working out in a gym. It feels kind of "fake" and unnatural so to speak. I mean so what that you can get well built strong and big if you can't be flexible with your body, can't run fast for 10 minutes straight, can't do a hand stand properly, can't do yoga stretches, etc etc. My cousin is big guy with a bicep almost the size of my quad and that's cool but he moves like a tank. He would die if he ran for 5 kilometers or tried one Insanity/Asylum cross fit session with me or did any kind of a challenge like triathlon/ironman etc.

You get the drift.

I've always wanted to be strong, fit, flexible and have good endurance. Like those guys doing calisthenics/bodyweight training, like those doing parkour ie those monkeys who can climb walls and trees, who can jump high, who do lots of various pushups, who can do flag, who do all sorts of pull ups using bars, who can flex their bodies really well, who can stretch a lot, etc. I started to think that this is THE way to be fit and make your muscles actually useful. It's more natural to me to be able to be strong and flexible enough to control your body. I watch what guys like Al Kavadlo do and it makes bench pressing or doing bicep curls silly to me. I mean how cool is to be able to do that? Dude's not big but who cares the level of his agility is top notch.






That's what our bodies are made for. It literally feels like it's lame to just lift weights just be get stronger/bigger disregarding other areas of body development like flexibility, endurance, stamina, balance, etc. I want all those things. I wonder what kind of workout/program/routine would serve me best.

I posted here cause this calisthenics/bodyweight exercises looks exactly like what I'm looking for but I can't really imagine the progression. I mean.. how did those guys who do all that cool stuff get to that point? They started from simple pushups and went from there?
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