[pozdnyshev]

(04-01-2013 04:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

G: Dasha is the biggest attention whore in Kiev...

Dasha has the best American teacher on this subject:

[Mersault]

Displaying femininity or whatever....it's all vague obtuse (or super precise) language for saying that the women basically make an effort with their appearance (as opposed to walking around like 21st century faux peasants) and desire to be courted (they don't react with feigned offence - then again, if you court in the wrong way, then sometimes they do).

Basically, it's all empty words spoken emptily in a vacuum. Words just spoken for the sake of avoiding the silence.

From knowing of the posts of which G Manifesto speaks, i will make a surmise and i dare say i will be rather accurate. In Ukraine many, but not all, of these forumites can bang 8's that they (most) couldn't bang in their own countries. The pursuers confidence is inflated due to his perceived worthiness (supremacy) over the girls, which comes across in a way that makes banging more likely. It's a self fulfilling type prophecy. The only possible negative of this scenario is the pressure of the expected bangs developing into anxiety, which has the adverse effect. Anyway, it's just that they bang them is all. Being feminine and blah blah has little to do with any of it. It's all bluster and confusion.

You can sum it up like this. It's a country with a good gene pool for making hot women that are susceptible to the charms of foreign men for a variety of reasons. A western man going there has a likelihood of banging hotties. Femininity? It's a vague term that needs to be deconstructed because right now it means nothing beyond the vague definition i gave it. Might as well talk about Bugs Bunny or the new Terence Malick film. Everything else about the matter is just hearsay.

[1bliss]

Never been to Ukraine but damn is the average girl actually that hot? There were a few hot ones in that video. Thin, pretty face, well dressed and very feminine... love it.

If you tell me most girls in Kiev are like this and/or better, I will book my ticket right now for the summer.

[soup]

Greek Kamaki, where have you been? Your analysis of what it's like to see men from a woman's POV has changed my life. You said that most women see men as "clowns", whereas most guys look at women as objects of importance. I can't tell you how much I see this now after reading that post.

[Hyperion]

As mentioned earlier in the thread there is much to learn from Roosh on how he composed himself on the interview.

It was absolutely hilarious to see the Bono fellow call out American women. Widening car doors, could you imagine such on honesty from American men on our 'bbws'.

Surprising that Roosh didn't get to talk more.

[Caligula]

(04-03-2013 12:52 AM)soup Wrote:  

Greek Kamaki, where have you been? Your analysis of what it's like to see men from a woman's POV has changed my life. You said that most women see men as "clowns", whereas most guys look at women as objects of importance. I can't tell you how much I see this now after reading that post.

Where's the post?

[thegmanifesto]

(04-02-2013 10:28 PM)alphaspiraton Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 09:52 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Ok. I watched the whole thing.

Some final thoughts:

5. Those people were awful. The only likable person in the video was Roosh. (Who did a very impressive job on this for a first TV appearance.)I wouldn't hang out with the rest of them if you paid me.

6. The coolest girl was also the ugliest. Correction: The only semi-cool girl was the ugliest. The matchmaker girl. She actually had Roosh's back.

7. The "lawsuit girl" and the other super hot dark haired girl? Hell, if you want to meet b*tches like that, can't one just take a flight to Washington, DC?

Now I am going to rip the lid off this thing:

8. I don't really see the "femininity" of those that you guys are constantly yapping about. They seemed hard, unfriendly, cold and somewhat evil. Sure they wear heels, but do any of them even smile? Say anything remotely interesting? Seem like they enjoy life at all? Seem to be positive people? No to all of those.

What gives?

Again, maybe it's just me, and my background and personality don't lend itself well to that part of the world (we have discussed this a few times on here), but hell, f*ck that place.

Again, I will take tropical beaches, warm water and girls in bikinis over that spot any day.

I really don't get the appeal.

Can you still smoke in bars in that country?

Because that might be the only reason I ever visit.

Still throwing out gems onto this forum. The more older I get the more my thoughts align with yours.

Thanks.

[vic]

Roosh you must have your own TV show in Eastern Europe, that will go afterwards worldwide. Let's end those "America got talent" style shows, let's replace them...

[zoom]

I don't understand why they didn't show any of the club footage that they filmed.

[Roosh]

(04-04-2013 11:23 AM)zoom Wrote:  

I don't understand why they didn't show any of the club footage that they filmed.

They did during the shoot.

I suspect a lot of pro-Roosh stuff was cut to make it a roast. Good for ratings. I estimate they cut about 40% of what I said.

[Kickb]

What was it like backstage? Did they provide catering? And when you left, did you have to fight through hordes of fans/haters?

[Viata]

How they convinced you to go in a 16 hours trip from Lublin all the way to Kiev for this?

[Roosh]

(04-04-2013 11:51 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  

What was it like backstage? Did they provide catering? And when you left, did you have to fight through hordes of fans/haters?

Yes there were basic drinks and deli meats. I also remember there being some type of yogurt substance.

There were separate rooms for guests. They didn't like us co-mingling before the show because there would be no surprise. There were no fans of haters.

(04-04-2013 11:56 AM)Viata Wrote:  

How they convinced you to go in a 16 hours trip from Lublin all the way to Kiev for this?

You guys convinced me! http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20611.html

It wasn't 16 hours... they paid for a flight from Warsaw and also the hotel. So I took a 3 hours bus from Lublin and then the flight was something like 2 hours.

[Samseau]

(04-04-2013 12:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 11:56 AM)Viata Wrote:  

How they convinced you to go in a 16 hours trip from Lublin all the way to Kiev for this?

You guys convinced me! http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20611.html

It wasn't 16 hours... they paid for a flight from Warsaw and also the hotel. So I took a 3 hours bus from Lublin and then the flight was something like 2 hours.

Plus you're getting hot EE groupies from the TV exposure. Talk about a fucking hell of a deal.

[Roosh]

Quote:

Plus you're getting hot EE groupies from the TV exposure. Talk about a fucking hell of a deal.

Groupie kisses/numbers/emails, yes, but still no groupie bang.

But non-groupie bangs... yes.

It seems that a girl finding out about my story through time, being "surprised" on the first date that the nice guy she met is a world traveler/writer, does more to help me than a girl recognizing me through the television. But then again, the fame I have here is very minor. I'll allow it to simmer for more time.

In the USA, I had way more groupie love in the DC blog niche, with no media mentions, than being on the biggest news show here. Go figure.

[Viata]

Nice. Too bad that you're not gonna take advantage of all the ukrainian groupies

[Samseau]

(04-04-2013 12:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Plus you're getting hot EE groupies from the TV exposure. Talk about a fucking hell of a deal.

In the USA, I had way more groupie love in the DC blog niche, with no media mentions, than being on the biggest news show here. Go figure.

That says a lot of good things about Ukrainian women IMO. The fact that they won't put out just for a dude because he's famous shows good character.

[thegmanifesto]

(04-04-2013 12:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

Plus you're getting hot EE groupies from the TV exposure. Talk about a fucking hell of a deal.

Groupie kisses/numbers/emails, yes, but still no groupie bang.

But non-groupie bangs... yes.

It seems that a girl finding out about my story through time, being "surprised" on the first date that the nice guy she met is a world traveler/writer, does more to help me than a girl recognizing me through the television. But then again, the fame I have here is very minor. I'll allow it to simmer for more time.

In the USA, I had way more groupie love in the DC blog niche, with no media mentions, than being on the biggest news show here. Go figure.

So is this "fame Game" worth it so far?

Or if you could turn back the clock, would you have stayed anonymous?

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No one has tried to sucker punch you yet?

No violence from haters, besides that one in Poland? Didn't you also say you had some in Latvia?

[soup]

Roosh could be like the next Christopher Hitchens

[Vicious]

Seeing Paris Hilton in Ukraine just opens a black empty void in me.

[pozdnyshev]

(04-04-2013 01:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Seeing Paris Hilton in Ukraine just opens a black empty void in me.

On the bright side Dasha doesn't speak English and I doubt Paris Hilton speaks Russian.

[Roosh]

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So is this "fame Game" worth it so far?

Or if you could turn back the clock, would you have stayed anonymous?

Ask me in 3 months. Thing is I don't need the fame, but I want an obvious poosy paradise experience and it's worth seeing if fame is a key ingredient in creating that. So far the effect is neutral on the ground, but on the internet it seems to increase my credibility a bit.

Quote:

No one has tried to sucker punch you yet?

No violence from haters, besides that one in Poland? Didn't you also say you had some in Latvia?

I got into an argument with some guy in the club, but it was due to space at the bar. So no.

[uni]

Roosh do you plan to return to Ukraine?

what was the effect of this show in Ukraine?

[hayesbrandon30]

First let me say thanks for providing the subtitles. because i have been trying to dissect what was being said since the video was posted, since i'm learning russian. while i understood bits and pieces,i couldn't understand everything because they were talking too fast.

i especially wanted to understand what the lady (rosklana) was saying because she was the angriest of them all and she was not as pretty as the other ladies there, but she looks pretty good for an average ukraine chick.

also i agree if these girls are considered standard 7's in Ukraine than i need to step my game up because i really felt i was talking to hot ukraine girls online. but panelist women and the guests who are being said to being the average ones, make the girls i'm chatting with right now, seem like left-overs. so seeing roosh on there, seeing the women, hearing the people about talk deep issues in russian/ukraine language was enlightening..


It's a shame really. because i agree that this talk show is a Ricki-Lake style trash tv talk show where everything was setup to get ratings.

they did everything they could to make Roosh into this looser who is motivating men to be sex tourists and only that,which is not true.

they made sure they found people who have their own agenda and guided things in a direction and the host kept things charged up. also they took so many things out of context to portray roosh in a bad light.

i shared this video with a marriage agency ukraine guy i'm friends with who hasn't read the book, nor does he know about Roosh and he got instantly pissed at Roosh without really listening/reading what is said in the book. But its because Roosh's as a person is portrayed in a bad light in the show, which explains my friends' anger.

and its a shame because this was a basically a "roast roosh" show. "stop the evil sex tourists from invading Ukraine"

but the good part was the marriage agency lady came in at the end and saved the day and cleared it up.

i believe that lady next to Max (rokslana) has good intentions and i can understand her resentment feelings as a woman but i really feel this issue of Roosh's book is all a big misunderstanding.

i think if the title of the book was "finding love in Ukraine" then really Rokslana would have no arguement and there would be no righteous feministic anger.

but "bang ukraine" is a book title that gets people pissed and confused, angry and nationalistic and horny too.

Sex tourism is a problem in Ukraine and there are idoits out there who will buy roosh's book to perfect their sex tourist tactics. but they don't actually read the positives of roosh's lessons in the chapters. What he says is truthful about their culture, mentality, beauty, history, the distrust of foreigners, having a good excuse.story to be in Ukraine, distinguishing between (husband, lover, friend) zones etc.,

either way i think this was good exposure for Roosh. seeing him on Romanian TV as "the player from USA" is pretty interesting and funny too

romania has some hot women too, how does Romania compare to Ukraine? good, bad, neutral?

and now this talk show. good job man!

It would be cool if you could get a reality series thing going. You have a name now, i keep seeing all these travel type shows about life in other countries on cable and stuff, who knows. it could happen for you. think about it. a show where the camera follows you around in each country you go to. i can see it now "the roosh show"
on the Travel Channel or HGTV it would be entertaining and funny as well as educational.

but its all about awareness. i feel roosh is very misunderstood because deep down, i feel he means well. also...

one last thing, i didn't realize you were that tall dude. wow.

[pitt]

I am surprised nobody said anything about roosh dressing style on the video. That dressing style is 100% on point. I really need to upgrade my wardrobe.