[thegmanifesto]

(03-15-2013 02:08 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Let's be honest, we are playing the cards that are dealt to us. G's lifestyle maybe ideal for him, but it takes time to build up all those connections to be able to visit a restaurant and get free bottles of vino or complimentary hotel rooms.
I will say that being a American already gives you strong DHV in most places in the world, especially Europe. If you are not a typical American and have a few good traits going for you then the rest is gravy.
I think we saw evidence of this in Roosh's video in Romania, girls asks "where you from" and then "take my number". Does it get any easier than that?? Is that happening to you in your home country?
I was hanging with Roosh in Croatia, two 24 year old hotties rolled up beside us in a bar. Roosh opened the one gal and before I could open her friend, she was already asking me where in America I was from. To me the funniest thing about the whole weekend is that I was wearing jeans, converse all stars and a t-shirt. Could I hit a club in Vegas, Miami or NYC dressed like that? Roosh even told me to dress down before I went out. Seems like a far cry from tailor made suits, Gucci shoes and cuff link shirts.

See I don't ever experience this.

Dressed in a t-shirt and converse all stars and hot girls are all over you because you are an American?

Does this happen non-stop in Croatia? Is Croatia that easy?

Everywhere I go, it seems to me that being American is a downgrade to my scene. Like it get lumped in with the cargo short wearers and I have to recondition the minds of a whole country on what is really dope.

In America, at least it is only a slight reconditioning of the mind.

And trust me, I know the whole "low-budget" Game angle. I wrote the book on that sh*t when I was younger. In France surfing as a kid, I barely wore a shirt and pulled fly girls. But still, that was not even as close as easy as it is now in America while dressed sharp.

Still, no one has answered my question:

How do you guys create these super high statuses in other countries? Opening hostels? Opening brothels? Opening nightclubs? What?

(03-15-2013 04:22 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(03-15-2013 10:48 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

And the whole "4k in SA is way better than 15k in USA" thing that nobody seems to answer.

There's no way I see that. To be honest I was pretty much spending the same amount in SA, if not more, as I was in Miami.

I really disagree with this too.

A lot of these countries really don't seem that much cheaper to me.

I mean, in a top notch place in another country, a top shelf vodka is still about the same price.

It is not like a Goose and Soda in Buenos Aires is $1.50 or anything.

It is still like $10-12.

[WanderingSoul]

Most of us are still in our 20s, we don't have to use suits and lots of money to pull university girls, which is my normal target. These girls don't require super high status. I normally go out in beeswax Clark's desert boots, some dark raw denim and a blue gingham shirt. I'm dressed well and everything fits good. 18-24 year old university girls at a nightclub targeted to them are not concerned with suits and money as a slightly older girl in a upscale lounge would be.

I think you are far removed from this scene so your point of reference doesn't allow you to see what these places are like, compared to the places you go to. When was the last time you went to a bar or club by a university that was filled with primarily girls under 24? These girls really do not care what your job is, where you live, or abou your Gucci loafers. Are you fun? Are they attracted to you? Does their social circle approve? These are the things that matter.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-17-2013 11:44 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Most of us are still in our 20s, we don't have to use suits and lots of money to pull university girls, which is my normal target. These girls don't require super high status. I normally go out in beeswax Clark's desert boots, some dark raw denim and a blue gingham shirt. I'm dressed well and everything fits good. 18-24 year old university girls at a nightclub targeted to them are not concerned with suits and money as a slightly older girl in a upscale lounge would be.

What city are you talking about?

I target 22-30 girls. Sometimes run into 21 year olds. So there is overlap.

I just go to different venues. I like high-end venues because the ratios are much better. And less headache.

I am not even sure why we are talking about clothes. I don't really see how that fits into this discussion.

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I think you are far removed from this scene so your point of reference doesn't allow you to see what these places are like, compared to the places you go to.

What "scene"?

Sound like you are talking about low-end American college bars.

I thought we were talking about other countries?

And the ease of American cities VS foreign cities.

I don't really get where you are going with this.

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When was the last time you went to a bar or club by a university that was filled with primarily girls under 24?

Not since I outgrew it and could afford better places.

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These girls really do not care what your job is, where you live, or abou your Gucci loafers. Are you fun? Are they attracted to you? Does their social circle approve? These are the things that matter.

Yeah, I got you. See my post above.

The interesting thing about a person being little older, is that person was young once too.

So yeah, I understand.

And these same things matter no matter where you go.

So I don't really see what point your trying to make. What is your point?

[Vicious]

I went suited a couple of times in Bangkok and while it helped to a degree I think it ultimately hurt my efforts because I was then pigeon holed upon sight by most of the local girls as another business traveller in for a quickie.
Wearing it in that heat was also f**king hot.

[thegmanifesto]

How did this become another "Style Thread"?

Unless the point you guys are trying to make is that it is "easier" in other countries because it is "easier" to put on a t-shirt than a Jacket?

Or it is "easier" in other countries because it is "easier" to put on beeswax Clark's desert boots than loafers?

To me it takes the same amount of work to put on clothes so it doesn't matter to me.

Oh well. At least this didn't turn into another "height thread".

Or is that the point?

You can be shorter in other countries and get hot girls?

And in America, girls only go for "tall" guys?

This thread is just so confusing now.

(03-18-2013 02:10 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

I went suited a couple of times in Bangkok and while it helped to a degree I think it ultimately hurt my efforts because I was then pigeon holed upon sight by most of the local girls as another business traveller in for a quickie.
Wearing it in that heat was also f**king hot.

Yeah, but aren't you from Sweden?

I am sure you get "f**king hot" if it is 35 degrees out and sunny.

[rudebwoy]

G - I have stated before and I will state again that the places I have visited, being American is considered DHV and this is coming from a Canadian. Girls aren't stupid, they can tell you are foreign and usually they can tell where you are from. In my case I also fall under the "exotic" category in these places, so I am either African, American or British in their eyes.
In Iceland and Sweden, the guys dress very well but yet there were still guys in the club that were under-dressed and it did not seem to hurt their game. In Croatia the guys were dressed average, basically wearing the same uniform of jeans/shirt/casual shoes. In all of these places the girls were dressed to the nines, in Croatia no girls wore pants and they all wore heels. Would I say Croatia is easy? I wouldn't say any place is easy, I will say the place is very friendly and the people were very welcoming.
How to create super high status? I think pretty much you have to act not like the local guys. It may sound small, but Roosh and I were drinking brandy's/scotches in Croatia in a local café. The waiter was all over us like we were celebs and of course the girls were checking us out as they "nursed" their coffee's.

[WestCoast]

The G is rolling to high end spots in other countries. He is not going to get an American bump at those spots because socially the girls at high end spots abroad are going to want the "local" top guy. It's actually a negative for him, hence his comment on "I have to school girls."

Who has better status:
1. Mega rich local guy
2. Mega rich foreigner

All else equal, you're not the "top dog" if you're not living there, this is the exact same situation as to why it is easier to bang a girl visiting your city, versus you going to their city. It's a lie that high end girls abroad want to leave their country, a 9.5 brazillian who has a rich boyfriend has no need for your passport. Her life is easy there.

Now if you look at other venues, who's the top cat at a grimey dance bar/college scene? Well you are. There is no other dude in that bar who has as much money as you, this is a scale issue. If you walk into a place where the base is on fire, guys are barely able to afford drinks (ie you drinking a Heineken is seen as high class because they are guzzling pbr's) yeah if you're the fun guy at the party you win.

That is all this discrepancy is. This is also why you're dumb to roll into a high end spot if you look very young. The girl is going to assume you are broke from hello (again this is relative).

I will choose the college scene abroad over the high end scene every single day. That should clear up why he doesn't experience the bump and why lots of guys do on here.

Now if you live there and have coin, get ready to prep and sell up yourself, it will take a long time to achieve this local status (a la WEDO's set up).

Comparing a visit to actually living somewhere is apples and oranges. I could go on and on and on tying up many loose ends on this forum but people are unable to detatch from their day to day experiences, to live life in another man's shoes is easier said than done. Yes this is an arrogant comment from myself as I'm basically saying I can do this. But at the end of the day, Unfortunately people have to see things for themselves.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-18-2013 08:28 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

The waiter was all over us like we were celebs and of course the girls were checking us out as they "nursed" their coffee's.

Were you able to convert?

(03-18-2013 08:57 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Now if you live there and have coin, get ready to prep and sell up yourself, it will take a long time to achieve this local status (a la WEDO's set up).

This is what I am trying to figure out.