[OGNorCal707]

(02-28-2013 03:53 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I'm going to be in Oaxaca or Merida this weekend. Looking at accommodations as we speak. Anyone in those cities let me know.

Damn, that would be a shame if you go to Merida, I'm in Campeche a city a few hours away, and am planning on hitting Merida on Monday. I probably should have gone straight to Merida for the weekend, but wanted to break up the long bus ride and see something different. It sounds like your work situation only allows you weekend trips, so maybe you will be gone by the time I get there. I could probably book it to Merida tomarrow, but think I'll just post up and chill, even though Campeche seems like it has absolutely no nightlife what so ever.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(03-01-2013 05:57 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Good report. I had wondered about Oaxaca but reading now that the women aren't anything special I'll skip it.

I had a blast in Mexico City and hit a homerun the first night. I need to return.

Next weekend I'm returning to PDC with my boy.

Does Merida warrant a visit?

Don't want to hijack a good thread so PM me if necessary.

I didn't hit Mexico City on this trip, but it sounds like it has some of the best nightlife and hottest chicas in all of Mexico. I read your Mexico City report, good stuff, you hooked up with a Brittish girl right? Any luck with the Mexicanas more than a phone number of facebook? Also, I wonder if you speak Spanish and at what level? I need to search the forum for your PDC report, it sounded really promising, but can't remember if you reported scoring there.

Yeah I ended up scoring a British chick in DF, no chilangas. I only went out a couple of nights and the second night took forever to find a decent spot. Pretty much got timed out by the time I found a good bar where I ran into Germanico. I got the number of a fly Chilanga in there but I was leaving the day she wanted to hang out. My boy who was with me spoke fluent Spanish but didn't score. I can speak conversational Spanish that is good enough for pickup, but I'm not fluent.


I was in PDC for two nights with my boys during BPM. We turned it in early because we literally couldn't find a hotel or apartment after the first two nights. We made the mistake of leaving us the flexibility to look around after the first couple nights but couldn't find anything and since we didn't book beyond those nights when checking-in initially, the hotel couldn't secure us a room for additional nights.

As for game, no one came up. But it really was more of a chill trip than a pickup one because we hadn't kicked it in a while. We were just chillin on the beach, eating at restos and hitting up bars. Closest I came to winning was approaching a three-set of Italian chicks by myself but I really needed "solid" wings for her two friends. When I go next weekend I'm traveling with just one friend and I'm going to just focus on game.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(03-01-2013 06:01 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 03:53 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I'm going to be in Oaxaca or Merida this weekend. Looking at accommodations as we speak. Anyone in those cities let me know.

Damn, that would be a shame if you go to Merida, I'm in Campeche a city a few hours away, and am planning on hitting Merida on Monday. I probably should have gone straight to Merida for the weekend, but wanted to break up the long bus ride and see something different. It sounds like your work situation only allows you weekend trips, so maybe you will be gone by the time I get there. I could probably book it to Merida tomarrow, but think I'll just post up and chill, even though Campeche seems like it has absolutely no nightlife what so ever.

My work situation allows me flexibility to stay until Monday but unless the city is well-known for nightlife 24/7, I prefer to be leave by then. I'll be doing longer stints in the Spring and Summer when I go to Europe. I'm nixing Merida and heading to Oaxaca tonight.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(03-01-2013 07:01 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

[quote] (03-01-2013 05:57 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Good report. I had wondered about Oaxaca but reading now that the women aren't anything special I'll skip it.

I had a blast in Mexico City and hit a homerun the first night. I need to return.

Next weekend I'm returning to PDC with my boy.

Does Merida warrant a visit?

Don't want to hijack a good thread so PM me if necessary.

I didn't hit Mexico City on this trip, but it sounds like it has some of the best nightlife and hottest chicas in all of Mexico. I read your Mexico City report, good stuff, you hooked up with a Brittish girl right? Any luck with the Mexicanas more than a phone number of facebook? Also, I wonder if you speak Spanish and at what level? I need to search the forum for your PDC report, it sounded really promising, but can't remember if you reported scoring there.

[Hencredible Casanova]

I'm in Oaxaca right now. Got in last night and got an Aussie flag! I met her at Collectivo Central, which is a bar I recommend if anyone comes down here. Very smooth setup and music. As usually the case with gringas I meet, she paid for drinks the whole night. I've always been more about just getting the notch than getting a flag but in this case it really was the best call. The local girls were receptive and very friendly (I danced with a few), but I can't say I saw one above a 6.5.

It really trips me out how different the cities I've been to in Mexico are. In DF I got eyefucked everywhere I went. But here people are extremely chill and unfazed by seeing a black person. The people here are so damn friendly I literally looked up online to see if Oaxaca was the friendliest city in MX. Must be the mountain air or some shit but everyone is chillin.

This is a cool little city. Very walkable and pretty. I dig the colonial architecture and the natural scenic background. I would come here to lay low or if I was an artist and needed to get some work done. This seems like a great place to do that.

[Hencredible Casanova]

The food in Oaxaca is BOMB. Just had lunch at La Biznaga. I highly recommend it.

http://labiznaga.com.mx/

[OGNorCal707]

(03-02-2013 03:55 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

The food in Oaxaca is BOMB. Just had lunch at La Biznaga. I highly recommend it.

http://labiznaga.com.mx/

Yeah I tried to eat there my last night, but it was like a 30 min. wait so I said fuck it. My favorite restaurant there was Casa Crespo which has a nice rooftop eating area with a bomb view of the Santo Domingo church, only thing is first time I went there I got the negra mole which everyone raves about and I thought it was absolutely disguesting and hated it. The next time I went with the hot Mexican honey from my hostel I got this pre-Hispanic shrimp and fish soup which they prepare at your table with hot river stones and it was one of the best meals I've had in Mexico, and I highly recommend it if they have it available. The other place I really liked I went to for breakfast almost every morning is called La Olla, and also has really good food.

[Mojorisin808]

I've been in Oaxaca for almost a month now, and so far I have to say I really like the city, the weather is awesome, it has a peaceful vibe going on compared to other places Ive been to in Mexico. The food is pretty awesome, quite different from other parts of the country. They are famous for their chocolates, moles, tyaludas, tamales, and chapulines(grasshoppers). If you venture to other smaller pueblos outside of the city such as Santa Maria del Tule, or Tlocolula, you find amazing markets that serve up tasty tacos de barbacoa(goat meat), and a famous seafood soup cooked with a hot stone called Caldo de piedras. Also, a must see place outside the city that has been mentioned is Hierve el aqua, a bunch of natural rock formations that have created these giant pools of hot spring waters, and falls, and of course Monte Alban, the pre-colombian ruins of the Zapotec civilization, simply incredible.

The city of Oaxaca is filled with amazing architecture, from breathtaking churches to colonial style buildings from the Spanish colonization era. Calle Alcala is especially nice to walk at night, its a street blocked off from traffic that is lined with restaurants, cafes, and a few bars. The zocalo is also a very nice place to hang, always something happening there, even during the weekdays, its a cool place to people watch and flirt with the local girls.

As far as the girls here I would agree with all that has been written about the quality here. Its definitely not a destination if your looking to bang quality. I'd say 95% of the girls (18-25yo) walking the streets are below a 6. Occasionally you'll see some 6's or 7's and maybe an 8. On a positive note, they are very friendly, and approachable. I've been taking some intensive spanish classes, and I have been able to communicate pretty well with my street approaches. Although I find mexicans to use a lot of slang words which throws me off. As far as the nightlife, not much happening here, there are a few bars, and mezcalarias here and there, but they seemed quite empty on the weekends. The Collectivo Central bar on Ave Hidalgo that was recommeded has not been open at all, seems like they are trying to renovate the place.

Overall, Id say Oaxaca is a cool little spot to chill out for awhile, learn some spanish, and enjoy some unique food.

   
   
   
   

[Hencredible Casanova]

Nice pics. The second one is exactly how I remember Oaxaca. Sucks to hear Collectivo Central is closed. That was a pretty smooth spot in general. It would be a cool venue in any city.

Yeah, I don't think I'd go back unless it were to just chill out, but I'd rather check out other spots in MX that I haven't been to, like Merida.

For guys who like the indigenous look though Oaxaca has plenty of chicks like that. Basically, if you like chicks in Cusco (Peru) you'll probably like the girls in Oaxaca.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

Oaxaca is known to be a mostly amerind city. if you want fly girls in Mexico, go to Northern Mexico, Sinaloa, Jalisco, Aguacalientes, or Zacatecas.

[MidWest]

I really want to visit Oaxaca. As a Mexican American I feel like I haven't explored much of southern Mexico. Any intel on lodging and where to stay in Oaxaca, may just hit it up in the summer. Are the girls more on the indigenous side or a mixture of everything? How do you compare it to other places in Mexico you've been to in terms of game and bitch-shields. Thanks in advance.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(02-25-2014 01:10 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

I really want to visit Oaxaca. As a Mexican American I feel like I haven't explored much of southern Mexico. Any intel on lodging and where to stay in Oaxaca, may just hit it up in the summer. Are the girls more on the indigenous side or a mixture of everything? How do you compare it to other places in Mexico you've been to in terms of game and bitch-shields. Thanks in advance.

Don't go to Oaxaca for chicks. It's a chill place to fall back for a couple of days. It's one of those spots to make a stop if you happen to be checking out southern Mexico. But don't go there for chicks. DF, Playa del Carmen are much better.

[Mojorisin808]

(02-25-2014 01:10 AM)MidWest Wrote:  

I really want to visit Oaxaca. As a Mexican American I feel like I haven't explored much of southern Mexico. Any intel on lodging and where to stay in Oaxaca, may just hit it up in the summer. Are the girls more on the indigenous side or a mixture of everything? How do you compare it to other places in Mexico you've been to in terms of game and bitch-shields. Thanks in advance.

There are plenty of hotels or hostels around the zocalo area. I am staying at a furnished apartment at the Suites del Centro on Av Hidalgo. http://www.hotelsuitesdelcentro.com/ $6000 pesos for the month, 3 blocks from the zocalo.

The girls have more of an indigenous look, not many fatties.

The people in Oaxaca are some of the friendliest and approachable people I've met in Mexico. No bitch shields whatsoever from the girls I've spoke with. Most are curious about where your from. I saw some lighter taller mexican girls in groups walking arounds, I suspect they are from northern parts, Mexico city, GDL, ect.

I mostly came to Oaxaca to get out of the winter weather of NYC, hang for awhile, get my spanish skills up to par, and do some work.
My focus wasn't on gaming girls. I wanna hit Guadalajara in a few months.

[HankRearden]

Off to Oaxaca this weekend and this thread has got me very excited - although probably moreso for the culture than for the women. So be it. If anyone is around let's grab drinks at some point.

[godzilla]

Last night out in Oaxaca. Probably should put this on the drunk Page but here it goes.


Food
Overrated, unique and good but food crítics are way overrating this place as a food destination.

Lobo azul is my communism coffee shop...shit service included tip, and it will open when it feels like it but I like the coffee.

If you want to buy mezcal...complete ripoff in the city, do so outside

What to see

Atomzpa, monte alban...you can get close enough by bus..pm me if you want local info.

For hierve del agua, mitla ..take a tour

Girls
There awful but there are a couple of 7 and even 8 s ..I cant believe how many lower class dudes are dating down. No obesity problem among men under 30..just women.

Where to fiND hot girls

Go on a tour ..enough skinny euro girls here..especially from germany. Two tours I went on, girls were leaving that night....lots of people here only stay for like 2 days..op's post makes sense ..hard here w tourists

Bar Txalaparta
First night I went ..mix local and gringo
Second friday all oaxaca and mexico city...lots of them from mexican independence day.
Got cockblocked last weekend real bad...this weekend, I just couldnt find anything I really wanted to appraoch.

Barezzito

Best talent in oaxaca no doubt...its in the north ..mostly local. All upper class, youll see every dude dating way up.

[germanico]

(02-23-2013 06:05 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

how are these guys pulling these chicks?

Game. They say it trumps all.

[OGNorCal707]

(09-19-2015 12:53 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(02-23-2013 06:05 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

how are these guys pulling these chicks?

Game. They say it trumps all.

From what I observed Mexican dudes use dance game very well, they especially kill it on salsa and especially with tourists that way. Unimpressive looking Mexican guy grabs a European chick at the bar when they are playing salsa, spins her around a few times, and then she turns to putty in his hands.

Game is legit no matter where you are in the world, but lets not forget that modern "game" in it's classic sense started in the U.S. and Canada, remember Mystery, Style, David DeAngelo, and this guy from D.C. called Roosh. I know you're Mexican so your opinion has more validity than mine, but I'd say from what I observed social circle and possibly status (?/$) has more affect on dating culture than here in the U.S.

One things for sure a lot of the bars, night clubs, and nightlife in the small pocket of Mexico that I traveled to (aside from PDC), the nightlife is set up in a way where social circle or group is key. Most venues had seating around tables which is sure as hell not conducive to approaching if you're rolling solo dolo.

[germanico]

(09-19-2015 01:38 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

One things for sure a lot of the bars, night clubs, and nightlife in the small pocket of Mexico that I traveled to (aside from PDC), the nightlife is set up in a way where social circle or group is key. Most venues had seating around tables which is sure as hell not conducive to approaching if you're rolling solo dolo.

I guess club owners care about making money and not about you getting laid. What brings in more money? groups, or lone rangers?

Quote:

Unimpressive looking Mexican guy grabs a European chick at the bar when they are playing salsa, spins her around a few times, and then she turns to putty in his hands.

Lets for one minute say you are an european chick on holiday in Oaxaca. Who would you want to fuck you tonight? The exotic (to you) male that proves he can thrust his pelvis, or the dull gringo who acts a little bitter that women aint throwing themselves at him?

A tourist would care less about your gringo status. To a local, gringos are a dime a dozen and she can meet a new one every night of the week. They wont be impressed by your level on concepts like "social status" or "social circle". (Or your canned lines or "palm readings" since you mention Mystery..."

True Game, on the other hand...

[godzilla]

(09-19-2015 02:23 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(09-19-2015 01:38 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

One things for sure a lot of the bars, night clubs, and nightlife in the small pocket of Mexico that I traveled to (aside from PDC), the nightlife is set up in a way where social circle or group is key. Most venues had seating around tables which is sure as hell not conducive to approaching if you're rolling solo dolo.

I guess club owners care about making money and not about you getting laid. What brings in more money? groups, or lone rangers?

Quote:

Unimpressive looking Mexican guy grabs a European chick at the bar when they are playing salsa, spins her around a few times, and then she turns to putty in his hands.

Lets for one minute say you are an european chick on holiday in Oaxaca. Who would you want to fuck you tonight? The exotic (to you) male that proves he can thrust his pelvis, or the dull gringo who acts a little bitter that women aint throwing themselves at him?

A tourist would care less about your gringo status. To a local, gringos are a dime a dozen and she can meet a new one every night of the week. They wont be impressed by your level on concepts like "social status" or "social circle". (Or your canned lines or "palm readings" since you mention Mystery..."

True Game, on the other hand...

I get what your saying but how many local dudes are really approaching gringas. 99 percent of the dudes have girls with them and just sit and stare. Ive been out with gringas at bars a few times in Mexico. So far 0 approaches.

[germanico]

(09-19-2015 04:04 PM)godzilla Wrote:  

99 percent of the dudes have girls with them and just sit and stare. Ive been out with gringas at bars a few times in Mexico. So far 0 approaches.

So, an almost unlimited stream of locals and tourists, zero competition, and yet, Im hearing guys complaining.

[godzilla]

Ive never said it was hard because of competition.

Unlimited stream is putting it nicely. There about 10 fuckable outside of gringas in oaxaca.

[OGNorCal707]

(09-19-2015 02:23 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(09-19-2015 01:38 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

One things for sure a lot of the bars, night clubs, and nightlife in the small pocket of Mexico that I traveled to (aside from PDC), the nightlife is set up in a way where social circle or group is key. Most venues had seating around tables which is sure as hell not conducive to approaching if you're rolling solo dolo.

I guess club owners care about making money and not about you getting laid. What brings in more money? groups, or lone rangers?

Quote:

Unimpressive looking Mexican guy grabs a European chick at the bar when they are playing salsa, spins her around a few times, and then she turns to putty in his hands.

Lets for one minute say you are an european chick on holiday in Oaxaca. Who would you want to fuck you tonight? The exotic (to you) male that proves he can thrust his pelvis, or the dull gringo who acts a little bitter that women aint throwing themselves at him?

A tourist would care less about your gringo status. To a local, gringos are a dime a dozen and she can meet a new one every night of the week. They wont be impressed by your level on concepts like "social status" or "social circle". (Or your canned lines or "palm readings" since you mention Mystery..."

True Game, on the other hand...

Meh it seems like you're trying to make an argument out of nothing and perhaps take some subtle jabs at me. I straight up said Mexican dudes have solid dance game, especially when it comes to salsa so I'm giving props. Salsa is a very specialized style of dancing that most North Americans and Europeans aren't going to learn in their countries or cultures, unless they straight up go out of their way to take classes to learn it.

Ofcourse a gringo is going to have shit salsa moves compared to a Mexican who has been dancing that way their whole lives, that seems pretty damn obvious.

When I mentioned Mystery I wasn't suggesting that mystery method is a good way to game nor is it my style, but simply putting it into context that "western style" game is more pertinent in the U.S. and countries with similar cultures, than say Mexico. Anyways, I don't need to engage in petty debates on the forum, I think we're more or less agreeing with each other overall on most things.

[Merenguero]

(09-19-2015 06:34 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Ofcourse a gringo is going to have shit salsa moves compared to a Mexican who has been dancing that way their whole lives, that seems pretty damn obvious.

When I mentioned Mystery I wasn't suggesting that mystery method is a good way to game nor is it my style, but simply putting it into context that "western style" game is more pertinent in the U.S. and countries with similar cultures, than say Mexico. Anyways, I don't need to engage in petty debates on the forum, I think we're more or less agreeing with each other overall on most things.

I've been visiting Mexico for over thirty years and have been dancing most of my life and outside of venues which cater to the "salsa culture," i.e. Callejon de los Rumberos, Mambo Cafe, it's extremely rare that I see a Mexican who is a good salsa dancer. I think I've met one Mexican girl my whole life who could dance bachata. Start going to salsa events and congresos in the United States. Spend some time in salsa and other latin clubs in Miami, New Jersey, and Manhattan, then tell me that Americans have shit salsa moves compared to a Mexican. Most of the accomplished salseros in the United States and possibly in the whole world are Puerto Ricans (both on the island and in the mainland), Cubans, White Americans and Black Americans. If you doubt me, you haven't been out enough.

[EL CHAPO]

I agree with Merenguero.

I have many Mexican friends in the states, and I am yet to find one who has any salsa skills. Its not that they are not good at it, its just that its not part of their culture. Mexican girls are more into that loud, brassy, annoying mariachi music, I think that's what is called. With the big trumpets and all. They like cumbia too.

Salsa music is popular in Southern American countries especially Colombia and the Caribbean. Not Mexico.

I've been invited to the Mexican parties in the states and the girls are clueless when they try to dance bachata, although I notice that a lot of them are interested in the dance and learning, thanks to the likes of Wisin Yandel and other bachata groups.

But Salsa? No way man, it doesn't peak their interest at all.


Edit--Mexicans are only good at THIS type of dance game .

But hey, if it helps them get the Mexican bitches then more power to them.

[godzilla]

Based on the house parties ive been to here. Your more likely to hear marachi ...or even play beer pong before dancing salsa.