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06-25-2013, 03:10 AM
Nice thread.
Personally, I'm totally over Japanese girls. They can't carry a conversation worth shit and bore me to fucking tears. They all attended uni but they are stupid as rocks. (Truly stupid or just pretending to be stupid to be more girly? I don't know, doesn't matter.) There used to be a time when I didn't mind all that much, but now, the idea of suffering through two or three dates of inane chatter is a complete turn off. I'm just so tired of it. Add to all that that they have no decent sense of humor at all and you can't even find an empty but still entertaining conversation. They don't like to express their opinions too much either so you can't really discuss different points of view on a subject well either. They don't get all that personal so conversation is constantly about the most superficial things. "Oh wow, you speak Japanese! It's hot, isn't it? How long you been here? It's hot, isn't it? This food is really good. No, I can't cook. What? No, I don't like to clean either. It's hot, isn't it? This is delicious! What do I do? Watch TV. One of my favorite hobbies is sleeping. Yes, that's right sleeping. It's hot. And listening to music. Yup, I call that one a 'hobby' too. It's hot." Talk to someone here in winter and you can switch "it's hot" for "it's cold". Be prepared. Once you get past the step-by-step getting all each other's data phase, you will have to carry the conversation every step of the way. There's also the fact that even when you get a decent one, the 'flow' is just off. It's really hard to explain this one but after a while, you might start to notice it. The give and take just isn't there in the same way as with western women.
The payoff for all that torture, should you choose to go through with it, is lame sex. Sure, there are some that are good in the sack, but they are few and far between. For the most part, they just lay there and close their eyes while making sounds you never would have a thought a human can make. Watch a Japanese porn and you'll see what I mean. Notice how some of them, their idea of kissing is just to let their tongue hang out without moving it. LOL I've had a few that I would call pretty good kissers, but again, far between.
About 1 in 400 Japanese girls can sort of dance. Even that may be a bit high. They can't keep a beat and basically just jump up and down flopping their hands around for the most part. The best dancers in the club are as bad as the worst dancers you'll see in a typical North American club. There is no rhythm whatsoever. Even when you see the girls they hire to dance on the stage all dressed in super hot costumes, at first look, they appear to have some great moves, but there's still something 'off' about them. Hard to describe, but if you look for it, you'll see what I mean. They are almost there, but not quite.
You can talk about being alpha all you want but there is a large number of women here that will simply not consider you if you aren't willing to pay for everything you do together. You can just avoid them, but these girls who think this way make up a larger portion of the "truly hot girls" the others. If you're happy enough with the mediocre girls who you meet in "gaijin bars", then all the power to you. They know you won't pay for everything and they're ok with it. But if you want to pull a girl that is in demand, really in demand, then you're likely going to have to pay for much more than you'd like. Again, not all, but many.
The flakiness is hard to put up with over time. It gets so fucking tiring. I can't count how many times I've talked to a girl where I KNOW I was the most interesting person she's met in five years and yet, no mail back. There are so many possible reasons for this, it's absurd, but more importantly, I just think it's fucking rude. Their friends might well have warned them about the 'dangers' of dating foreigners. Maybe they got nervous and scared. Maybe they think you're cool but won't date anything they KNOW won't turn into a marriage someday. All possible. But it's the way they go about it that I still, after all this time, can't get used to. Still hate it when it happens even though it's really just the culture here.
So what's the upside?
Well, if you're new, for the first couple of years here, you'll find that they're all hot. The truth is, they're not, but you won't notice it for a while because you just got off the boat from a country where 80% of women are TFTF (too fat to fuck). Here, it's like 20%. Just by being thin in and of itself, unless her face is really horrible, you'll think she's a 6.5 overall. If she knows how to make herself up and dresses hot, you'll see her as a 7.5. If she's cute in the face, you'll see an 8 and if she's really pretty, you'll see an 8.5 or 9. After you acclimatize, you can knock off 2 points for each but until then, it's a lot of fun because dammit, they are all so hot! An 8 when I first got here is now a 5.5 or 6 to me. An 8 here (within the context and borders of Japan alone) is rare. At first you think every second girl you talk to is an 8 but after five years you'll think much differently. Much. You acclimatize, yes, but you also learn to see the difference between trashy and not. You start to get better at identifying what a 'good' body is vs a bad one even if they're both skinny. You learn to see through the makeup and see what's underneath. You start to get a much better sense of who you're going to end up waking up next to rather than the decked out girl you think you're taking home. So enjoy it while you're new. I've been here a long time and there is still a much higher percentage of eye candy here than just about anywhere else in the world, especially if you like thin girls like I do, but it just won't be like it was the first couple of years.
If you like sexy, a lot of girls here dress sexy as hell. The only problem is that they may look sexy, but they aren't sexy. It's just the clothes and makeup and almost nothing else. There is NO sensuality here at all. Ever. They just don't know how to 'be' sexy. They don't walk sexy. They don't talk sexy. They don't act sexy. They don't flirt properly, if at all. There's no passion to anything. Still, they do look fucking sexy!!! And that's a plus. You'll actually feel physical pain in your stomach at the fact that you cannot fuck all of them.
They all give head. I don't recall not getting it.
Nearly all of them swallow. Only a couple of girls wouldn't for me. The rest all did. Sometimes I could sense that it might not be her preference but if you just keep going like it's what's normal and expected they will too. Never had a girl complain cuz I didn't warn them or whatever.
They really do act much more feminine. I don't know if this is a plus or minus because it also equates with childish here. The femininity, I like. The childishness, the whiny talk, the constant crying... I can't deal with it well. Some guys seem to really like it though, so whatever floats your boat.
Cosplay is ingrained in the culture so you may find it easier to get the girls to dress up for you. I had one girl show up in her high school uniform. The uniform itself was not that nice, but it was still a lot of fun.
They don't complain about gender roles and you'll never have a fight with one about feminism or how men run and ruin the world. Never.
They don't mind if you make all the decisions. They like it actually. Of course, half the time, you'll still have to 'decide' on things that make her happy. LOL
Anyway, that's my take, fwiw.
I'm tired of this place. There are some good ones, but the vast majority are as I've described. Maybe if you're still young and haven't "been there, done that" like old guys like me, a lot of that will still be fresh for you and you just won't mind as much. That's things often are in the beginning before you get tired of them. Or maybe if you have a Japanese fetish, you just won't care. You might even like the stuff I don't. I know guys here that praise the blow-up-doll-like qualities of Japanese girls and they love every minute of it, even after being here 10 years or more.
