[solo]

What is the forums view on situational openers? Who uses them and to what extent and results?

I have read both Bang and Day Bang but has still opted to mostly go direct so far.
For my latest batch of approaches I went *very* direct but now I want to start trying situational openers more since I so far am getting different (better) reactions.

Last time I went out I used two good situational openers IMO. First I accidentally bumped into a girl and said sorry which caused her to smile at me. Then I went back to her and said something like "you know maybe it was destiny that we crashed into each other" with a slight smirk/ironic touch to it.
The second was when I saw a girl in line to the bathroom who looked bored so I just asked her "are you bored?".

Also, this is a bit of an odd question, but is there a way to improve your ability to come up with good situational openers? I find that being in the moment and enjoying yourself is key, but I mean is there a way to train yourself to come up with innovative and effective situational openers?

Edit: Good blog post by Roosh from 2007: http://www.rooshv.com/hung-up-on-the-opener

[Giovonny]

99% of my openers are situational.

Best way to get better? Practice. Open 10 girls today using the best situational opener you can.

[TheBulldozer]

Open your mouth. If nothing else, just use something related to the time of year.

You can bet i'll be asking girls if there is nothing in the moment that catches my attention....

What did Santa get you this year?

Did you keep your resolution all year?

What's your resolution for '13?

[MLT]

I think situational openers are great, especially when you use them in order to ask for help. It's like all girls wants to talk to you, if you ask them for help.
For example, last night I opened several girls asking them; "Hey, I have some friends standing at the train station who are trying to get to this bar.. How would you describe the way to get here?"
Or "Hey, I've noticed that some guys is playing a weird game with some beers and a ping-pong ball over there.. Do you know what the game is about?"

When trying to think of a situational opener, I usually ask myself if there is anything slightly unusual in my surroundings, or think about what a stranger could ask me.
I think situational openers like these are very good, since I can start a conversation with a girl without her knowing that I actually want to have sex with her.

[XXL]

To improve your ability to come up with good situational openers observe what's going on around you and use the "moment" to start conversations. It can anything like their clothes, their haircut, their behavior, their attitude, their looks, the people around, the place, the music, their drinks, what they're doing at the moment, what they're saying etc basically any circumstances that can be used as a context for the conversation.

You're passing by a girl at school who is waiting for the professor in front of his room and you tell her to not go inside cause he's weird little perv who tried to pick YOU up once and that she might be his type as well blablablablabla. That's a situational opener. In this case the context is that you're both go to the same school and have the same teacher. That kind of opener has a lot better chances to "work" than telling her she's pretty.

[Giovonny]

A few examples. Notice that all my openers are situational..

(02-23-2012 05:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I saw a cutie sitting by herself at the bus stop looking in her mirror and playing with her eyebrows. I walk up, sit down next to her and open immediately...

me: is this the bus stop or the beauty shop?
her: ha both
me: you got a date or something?
her: no just checking my lashes
me: i think they look ok
her: thanks
me: what are you doing right now? going home?
her: ya
me: wanna take me home and use me as your teddy bear?

(07-24-2012 04:12 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I was at the market, I saw a gorgeous little Beyonce type, mixed black/white, maybe 18/19. She was struggling to tear off one of those plastic bags that you put fruit into...

me: how do you work these stupid things
her: i don't know
me: let me try

I tore off one of the bags

her: thank, i guess im not very athletic
me: i guess not

(07-24-2012 04:29 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Early morning about 8am, I was getting on the train going to work, I see a cute Asian walking behind me...

me: how do i pay for parking?
her: at the ticker machine
me: oh (pretending to be confused)
her: we are walking the same way so i will show you
me: ok great thanks
her: you walk fast like me
me: i don't like to waste time
her: ya i don't have any to waste
me: me nether

(07-24-2012 04:46 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

The next day, the same train, 2 college aged girls sit next to me carrying big travel bags, I make some pretty good eye contact with one of them...

me: are you going on vacation?
her: hehe, no, we just got here
me: from where?
her: LA, we are here for college
me: what school?
her: cal state
me: you just got off the airplane?
her: ya we have been traveling all morning
me: damn thats crazy
her: we have freshman orientation right now
me: wow, well, welcome to the bay area
her: thanks we love it here

(09-24-2011 02:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Walking thru a college campus, I saw a girl wearing some tight pants with little openings along the outer thigh, very sexy, young latina..

me: nice pants, those are hot
girl: oh, thanks
me: those make me wanna have a drink and go dancing or something
girl: haha
me: you must not be from around here?
girl: I'm from LA
me: I could tell, girls around here don't know how to dress
her: I noticed that
me: how long you been up here?
her: blah,blah, blah
me: U smoke? (weed)
her: sometimes
me: blah, blah, blah

(09-24-2011 02:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Walking down the street, see a girl with a cool bag..

Me: Cool bag, is that from Peru?
Her: Hah, it looks like that doesn't it? But I got it in Alabama
Me: What? Alabama?! I was thinking more like South America or something

[Aer]

It's all about having good observational skills. Notice the small things and use your observational skills to pick out a flaw and tease them later in the conversation. They love that.

[DBCooper]

At the risk of stating the obvious, finding settings in which situational openers are more abundant is the best way to go in my opinion - the more opportunities to open, the better your chances.

Case in point, I find the college library (don't know if that's applicable to OP) to be a goldmine, particularly if you're both studying the same thing i.e.

Me: You look like you know what you're doing, do you mind helping me out with 'x'.
Her: Hey, yeah sure, pull up a chair.

[starmaze]

(12-22-2012 02:31 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

99% of my openers are situational.

Best way to get better? Practice. Open 10 girls today using the best situational opener you can.

Hi Giovonny

so you are back to indirect approaches? last time i remember you said you try direct , also krauser style. Didnt direct approaches work out for you?

[Giovonny]

(12-24-2012 03:46 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

Hi Giovonny

so you are back to indirect approaches? last time i remember you said you try direct , also krauser style. Didnt direct approaches work out for you?

I'm using both. It depends on the situation. One is not better then the other, they are both necessary.

[Chrexx]

I find it very effective in using opinion openers with a 2 set or larger. Most of the time these girls can't make up their mind and be assertive with their answer, I see them looking at their friends for approval a lot of the times (sign of vulnerability I can take advantage later on when isolating that girl from her group of friends )

When a girl is by herself I try to connect with her with something that we have in common, either on a physical level (color of her eyes, complexion, or her style of clothing) or with something that we both enjoy doing outside of the club/bar what have you.

Girls want to know from the get go if they are a compatible match with you either consciously or subconsciously; it's in their DNA. The quicker you can find commonalities, whether it be true or just bullshit and lies, the better chance you have in getting the lay. Do you guys tend to agree?