[Divorco]

The first video increased my respect for Will Smith. So did this one.

[Architekt]

It was the music that got to me on the second one..

[Tuthmosis]

(07-31-2012 04:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

Let's face the facts, if any of us "manosphere" guys had a boy, we'd be all up in his shit about being a real man.

I don't think I would lean on my boy that much. I guess it would be about using the right touch. I don't want to fuck him up in the other direction. Truth be told, we don't have that many data points on raising your kid with this particular variety of game (certainly dads have raised their kids with other, older forms before). I don't want to overload the kid or raise some sort of alpha-wannabe bully.

I'd mostly lead by example and check the major mistakes. Teach him to think critically about the things he sees and hears; stand up for himself; and be good at what he does, whatever it is. When it came to girls, I'd basically teach him to be fearless. The 10-or-so Commandments of Game and a few tips on the nature of women should suffice in the beginning. Enough knowledge, of course, to counterbalance the fantasy bullshit he hears from his mother and other women, but not enough to turn him completely cynical at that early of an age. Steer him away from beta and white-knight thinking, and into a self-assured leader. Teach him to fight. Teach him to tell stories well. Teach him to take risks. Teach him to shake things off.

He'd be a beast. A fucking beast.

[Spike]

I don't have to even watch the videos. I have high empathy levels.

[UgSlayer]

(07-31-2012 11:09 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 04:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

Let's face the facts, if any of us "manosphere" guys had a boy, we'd be all up in his shit about being a real man.

I don't think I would lean on my boy that much. I guess it would be about using the right touch. I don't want to fuck him up in the other direction. Truth be told, we don't have that many data points on raising your kid with this particular variety of game (certainly dads have raised their kids with other, older forms before). I don't want to overload the kid or raise some sort of alpha-wannabe bully.

I'd mostly lead by example and check the major mistakes. Teach him to think critically about the things he sees and hears; stand up for himself; and be good at what he does, whatever it is. When it came to girls, I'd basically teach him to be fearless. The 10-or-so Commandments of Game and a few tips on the nature of women should suffice in the beginning. Enough knowledge, of course, to counterbalance the fantasy bullshit he hears from his mother and other women, but not enough to turn him completely cynical at that early of an age. Steer him away from beta and white-knight thinking, and into a self-assured leader. Teach him to fight. Teach him to tell stories well. Teach him to take risks. Teach him to shake things off.

He'd be a beast. A fucking beast.

yeah push him too hard and he could rebel and turn into a twink

[Hades]

Yeah I wouldn't push my boy too hard either. That kind of shit can develop a complex. I'd just try to teach by example and encourage his mimic-type behavior. Kids growing up always want to be just like Daddy.

[Samseau]

From the age of 0-16, I wouldn't even talk about women to my son. Those years are for growing up, and letting him have as much fun and happiness as possible. We all know women do not bring happiness, so there's zero point in teaching him to be a player early on.

[soup]

My father is like the sun to me.

They should call dad's "Suns," and not have the boys called "Sons"

[MikeCF]

(07-31-2012 04:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

Let's face the facts, if any of us "manosphere" guys had a boy, we'd be all up in his shit about being a real man.

If we were non inter-mano-sphere guys, we wouldn't give three shits about our offspring (most urban fathers in NYC).

Take a bet as to which mentality is going to get you laid more.

BTW I'd bet a lot of us here are going to be W Smith's dad here in the future.

I would love to have a son - several sons, really.

I just don't want a woman around to fuck up his upbringing.

I also don't want a woman to use my son as a way of manipulating me.

I'm not that unusual. I'll bet more than a few guys here would love being fathers.

We are not anti-family because we had children. The problem isn't children. The problem is their mothers.

My dad was around. But if he had walked out on my mother, I'd have understood.

Whenever I hear about a "dad who went to the store go get cigarettes and never turned," I wonder how much of a bitch his wife must've been.

[UgSlayer]

(07-31-2012 03:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 04:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

Let's face the facts, if any of us "manosphere" guys had a boy, we'd be all up in his shit about being a real man.

If we were non inter-mano-sphere guys, we wouldn't give three shits about our offspring (most urban fathers in NYC).

Take a bet as to which mentality is going to get you laid more.

BTW I'd bet a lot of us here are going to be W Smith's dad here in the future.

I would love to have a son - several sons, really.

I just don't want a woman around to fuck up his upbringing.

I also don't want a woman to use my son as a way of manipulating me.

I'm not that unusual. I'll bet more than a few guys here would love being fathers.

We are not anti-family because we had children. The problem isn't children. The problem is their mothers.

My dad was around. But if he had walked out on my mother, I'd have understood.

Whenever I hear about a "dad who went to the store go get cigarettes and never turned," I wonder how much of a bitch his wife must've been.

It sounds cliche, but you just gotta find the right woman. That is, qualify qualify qualify. Most likely she'll come from outside of the US. Believe it or not, there are women out there that want to be wives and mothers and are raised to be good at it.

[Eddie Winslow]

If you can make it through this one, check your pulse.

[Basil Ransom]

(07-31-2012 04:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

Let's face the facts, if any of us "manosphere" guys had a boy, we'd be all up in his shit about being a real man.

You really don't have to. Young healthy boys have an incredible natural competitive drive. I've got a family friend with two young boys, and I've hung out with them a couple times recently. And it's *fun.* They have incredible energy, and will compete with you on the most trivial things.

Anything and everything becomes this huge competition. Goad them into arguing with you, see how passionate they get, it's fun. Adults might call you an asshole, but boys will go toe to toe with you. And never let them win.

Plus, I'll admit it, I'd probably use my sons to troll fatties, at least once. I get roped into a conversation with a fattie, my son innocently asks, "ma'am, how'd you get so big? My *mommy* is really skinny."

My biggest concern is that my sons would be born pussies and I had no way to reverse it.

[UgSlayer]

(07-31-2012 02:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

From the age of 0-16, I wouldn't even talk about women to my son. Those years are for growing up, and letting him have as much fun and happiness as possible. We all know women do not bring happiness, so there's zero point in teaching him to be a player early on.

I think I'd probably start younger. I had my first gf at 10 in fifth grade but it was just making out and footsies. I started thinking about sex and girls seriously around 6th or 7th grade. Of course, I wouldn't go all in and teach him everything at that age, but if some teacher cunt or white knight brought me in to a parent teacher conference or yelled at him for teasing girls, I would definitely tell him not to listen to teacher. I'd frame it as "expressing himself", not gaming girls.

[_DC_]

(07-30-2012 08:55 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

Both of those videos got to me a bit. First one more. I guess it's whichever one you relate too more. I find myself getting that emotional feeling a bunch in movies sometimes in the weirdest scenes, usually when something has culminated or there is some kind of overwhelming realization.

The best one I can think of is the ending scene to the series 6 feet under.

I'm the opposite. I didn't even get misty on the first one, maybe the focusing on the gift at the end was purposely sentimental as possible. The second one, misty-eyed for sure and a great video.

I hardly get teary-eyed or cry for anything. Last movies i can remember is the montage in Up (love story and death in 5 minutes w/o words). And the ending of Schnidler's list, a kinda weird, happy/sad tears.

Now the last 5 minutes of the series finale of Six Feet Under, just totally floored me. I bawled like a little girl. After watching 5 seasons of the show and really getting to know the characters, it was as if you were witnessing real funerals of every major character. It pounds home the inevitability of death pretty strong. That was a great show.

I'm not sure if it would be 1/10th as sentimental not knowing the characters.

[_DC_]

Unleash the waterworks!

[RazorRamon]

I can picture Thutmosis crying over stuffed crust pizza when he wanted regular.

[Hannibal]

The movie that made me cry the most was "The Road" with Viggo Mortenson. God, that film is a tearjerker.

[Mage]

I didn' cry altrough it surprised me, because I am usually easily moved to tears, by such videos.

I think that there is no shame for a man to cry about manly things like the father-son thing or your brother or for your comrade who died in your hands during battle and all such things. These things are sacred to men, male bonding is sacred to men, because it takes place in higher levels then mere physical/chemical bonding between men and women. Men can bond in levels women cannot access. However for mans tears to be worth recognition he must pay 1000 drops of sweat or 10 drops of blood for every drop of tear. If you keep that ratio in your life then it is perfectly fine to cry some times.

I also believe wanting to raise a son, wanting to mentor him, to see your reflection in him is an alfa thing. It is the natural thing to want only todays toxic environment where children are a liability not an asset, makes most alfas to delay or skip parenthood.

Now one thing all men should rise above is crying for women. No women is worth it unless she was faithful to you and a good mother of your children and then she suddenly dies. But even then keep it short and move on, abundance mentality is critical.

[HookedonPhonics]

Yea Both of those hit pretty hard......I had to take a couple of deep breaths on the Will Smith one b/c that's the kind of relationship i had with him (he always seemed to like my older brother so much more)

[Lothario]

Is it Beta to Cry ? I have tears on my cheek right now, reminded me of my DAD, I was very close to him, RIP Dad.....

[Tex Pro]

[Roosh]

(08-01-2012 02:11 AM)_DC_ Wrote:  

Unleash the waterworks!

Yeah this one was good.

[Statsi]

Most of these videos don't do much for me, up got me when I watched the movie though

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Pretty sad commercial.

[London]

I liked the first one a bit more, but Will Smiths movies generally get me going, especially Seven Pounds.

A strange one I saw recently though was Animal Kingdom, an aussie movie about a kid caught up in a crime family.
It's not heartwarming like some of the others here, but you can't help but feel for the guy as everything seems to go wrong for him - I'd post the trailer but it doesn't do the movie any justice at all.

[speakeasy]

I can relate to the first one. Although I grew up with a father, my father never knew his father. Never even met him once. It had a profound effect on him and many of the things Will Smith shouted out I've heard from own dad's mouth when expressing his anger toward his absent father. My dad said that if he ever had a kid, they are going to know how their father is and he would never do to his kids what his father did to him.

Needless to say, abandoning any kid I would ever produce would be unthinkable.

As for movies, the final scene of Karate Kid I always choked me up:

No scene is a movie has ever choked me up than the last 3 minutes of La Bamba. I cried as a kid, and I still would come very close to crying as an adult. Great movie but I can't stand to watch it because of the ending scene with Richie Valens and his brother running up the hill together. Kills me every time.