[MD81]

In Vegas; and being G Manifesto blog fan I really wanted to test Gentleman's Club game.

Tuesday night/ Wed Morning - 3 AM went to Spearmint Rhino. I was dressed in suit (Zara but fits me really well), hand made leather shoes, zippo, cigarrettes and a Tag Heuer Watch. Not wearing a tie, pocket square and not carrying a thick cash roll.

I posted on the bar back stage ordered grey goose and red bull and tipped the waiter nice. I was facing the room but was acting a bit distracted or lost in thoughts to say and had open body language so that strippers can approach me easily. A couple of strippers approached agressive and I turned them away gently. Now a polish girl approaches - perfect body and face - an 8. She asks for the dance and I use the line ' I just got in here; maybe a bit later' Anyways she gets pretty delighted that I am way different in the room, not drunk and not agressive bla bla. I buy her a drink in the mean time and she starts getting turned on (I dunno if it was fake or what) and she moves a bit forward to make out with me - not sure what i did; maybe a quick smooch or just smiled. After some time she really starts pushing for the dance and I just tell her look I am enjoying our talk but would definitely not like to stop you from you work; go ahead with your work if you want. She prefers to stay and goes like 'its only 100 to dance for 15 minutes in private and I really want to do that'. I did a bad move probably gave her 100 and refused to get a lap dance. She was really turned on this and keeps coming back and really pushing for the dance now; I think this was now when she wanted to make out with me. She stayed with me for good 40 minutes or so. However I did hint smoothly about 'Wynn' at Encore since she asks me where I am staying at. After 40 minutes I got too tired and left; I could not smoothly transition into number close or any close what so ever.

Wednesday night/ Thursday Morning - 3.30 AM Sapphires

Same get up and style - just a different color suit. A cute LA girl comes over; same initial script as above - That is approach, comments on dressing, I check out when she is leaving (by suggesting she looks tired and probably had a long day?) She asks for time (to check out watch), asks where I am staying at - I mention SPA and she gets excited and asks if she can come along next day. Around 20 minutes conversation - I mention her she is free to go around as she is working; she wants to exchange numbers and I tell her to write it on a slip of paper and give it to me. She leaves and never comes back

Second approach by an Asian girl - exact same script as above - she tries to make out a couple of times - in the end wants to exchange number - I tell her just write it on a piece of paper for me but she discreetly takes my phone and call herself.

Third approach by another American girl - same script (I think I was understanding the script better by now) - and she talks and talks and talks like she found her soul mate or something - I try to setup a plan by hinting to grab food together as I and she was leaving on the same time - She politely refuses and leaves. I never attempted for number close.

I leave the club; I see 5 missed calls and 6 messages from Asian girl asking me to confirm if I am staying at Wynn? I reply her back that yes I am - I get no reply for next 60 minutes or so - I crash out. She calls me 6.30 in the morning if she can come over; and then in later text she asks if its ok for me to pay her 2000 dollars. LOL. I just texted her back that I am not looking for this and then stopped texting her back.


Questions I have:

1) What is a smooth way to close the deal?
2) Where I am wrong on the script above?
3) Go for SNL or just exchange numbers?
4) How a number should be exchanged? I dont think its a good idea to pull out your phone.
5) Should you get a lap dance if she is kind of hooked? (Second night I had no pressure on lap dance) - Come to think of it I believe polish girl wanted to blow me in private; since she mentioned something along these lines.
6) How to weave out the ones which have a tendency to get hooked? and how to adapt the game?

MD

[thegmanifesto]

Seems like there is some screening issues.

"A cute LA girl comes over"

Where most of these girls from out of town?

Or did they live in Las Vegas?

[MD81]

Most of them out of town - visiting Vegas for a week or two.

[Divorco]

(06-22-2012 11:52 PM)MD81 Wrote:  

I ... test[ed] Gentleman's Club game. Not ... carrying a thick cash roll.

I ... gave her 100 ... She was really turned on ...; I think this was now when she wanted to make out with me.

she gets excited and asks if she can come along next day. ... She leaves and never comes back

Third approach ... - She politely refuses and leaves.

She ... asks if its ok for me to pay her 2000 dollars.

My friends are dancers in Vegas. Many dancers visit from out-of-town. They want your money. Like Chris Rock sings, there is no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want you to think they like you, want to make out, blow you, or meet you later. Then you will gullibly purchase lap dances.

You have done the forum a service by testing and documenting this. You got their attention with cash. But they only want money. In every case, they flirted, asked for money, and left when they couldn't get it. Think about what you could have accomplished instead by just approaching in casinos and malls.

[Duke Castile]

I had to stop reading about halfway through because it was too painful. Look man, you can fake having money for about 30 mins in that club before you get sniffed out and all the girls avoid you. They are all working and you are a dollar sign not a potential lay.

The only way that changes is by having some serious DHV like actual money or friends with actual money.

I was there after the EDC and the guys I was with spent shitloads of money but did pick up several hot strippers and went back to a condo, did a bunch of drugs and banged em.

All of that "non aggressive" pleasant stuff is a neutral indicator at best. You're in the best strip club in vegas, it has the hottest girls. Think about the kind of high rollers and celebs those girls are used to. I've banged 4 girls out of there, 2 from inside the club. Both times the things I described were present.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-02-2012 01:31 PM)MD81 Wrote:  

Most of them out of town - visiting Vegas for a week or two.

I knew it.

I really am way too good at this stuff.

Girls visiting from out of town are going to be way more difficult than Las Vegas local exotic dancers.

This is one of the first things I screen for.

You can still swoop the traveling exotic (hell, I know a grip of them from Southern California anyways) but it is going to take a little more "zip" on your Game.

Go back and read my Data Sheets on the subject.

You made some crucial errors.

Quote:

Like Chris Rock sings, there is no sex in the champagne room.

Chris Rock is right.

However, there is swooping with Exotic Dancers back at Wynn.

[Veloce]

(07-02-2012 02:26 PM)Fisto Wrote:  


I was there after the EDC and the guys I was with spent shitloads of money but did pick up several hot strippers and went back to a condo, did a bunch of drugs and banged em.

Can you elaborate? I've got a great blow hookup so I've got that covered. How much cash are we talking, and how? Bottle service at XS? Paying the strippers outright?

[Duke Castile]

(07-02-2012 02:42 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 02:26 PM)Fisto Wrote:  


I was there after the EDC and the guys I was with spent shitloads of money but did pick up several hot strippers and went back to a condo, did a bunch of drugs and banged em.

Can you elaborate? I've got a great blow hookup so I've got that covered. How much cash are we talking, and how? Bottle service at XS? Paying the strippers outright?

Well, I can but I was pretty smashed. We showed up around 330am-4 and went straight to the champagne room. We had a few normal girls with us, bottles, and a bunch of strippers. The guy who paid probably spent 800 bucks per girl for about an hour. The atmosphere was festive and it seemed like this was pretty much standard procedure for them. The girls made enough money for the night and decided to bail. You can't really get them to leave with you because that club get's raided a lot for prostitution (defined by some pretty tough standards).

Honestly, Every guy probably made over a mil per year, they were basically geeks and no more intelligent than most on this forum. But just the sheer amount of money being thrown around by everyone but myself would be tough to replicate.

Anyway, bottle service at xs is cool, but again, it's nothing special. You'll get little groups of Asian bitches (and others of course) coming up to hang out but really they're going from table to table drinking for free. They're pros. You have to spot them quick and tell them to beat it.

Of course, what you've got with the blow and the tables puts you up there in the top "desirable" category. It's just is paying all that worth it. My answer is no, but then I don't have that kind of money and when your associates do, you're just along for the ride.

[joehoya]

I'm going to throw something out there. This has worked for me at clubs in 3 states (Nevada, Illinois, and Indiana) and DC. I am not talking about the most expensive clubs or the hottest dancers in the clubs, but the technique has gotten me laid for free.

First, I don't go to strip clubs suited up. I'm not saying that won't work, but I have never done it. I don't go looking like a slob either, though. The one thing I make sure about is personal hygiene. Specifically, I make sure that I smell nice. Fresh breath, and a fresh body smell. For a while I was using cocoa butter, which several women REALLY like. Whatever scent you are using, make sure it is not too strong. No spraying half a can of Axe Body Spray all over you.

Second, I don't go on the busy nights (Friday and Saturday nights). It is way too crowded and the girls are way too busy making money to just hang out.

Third, when I am at the club, the one thing I do is I tip EVERY GIRL WHO GETS ON STAGE. I DON'T make it rain on one girl or anything. I just tip every girl a dollar, JUST A DOLLAR. For whatever reason, this works EXTREMELY WELL for me. Every time I have done it, at least one dancer notices that I have tipped every girl. That is usually the dancer I wind up fucking.

Fourth, smile. Seriously. Most of the dudes in the club are either scowling or have that creepy "I would really like to rape you" face on.

Usually just doing that will get a few nibbles. Chicks will sit and chat about bullshit WITHOUT asking me to buy them a drink or anything. I normally don't do private dances frequently, but I have had girls I've developed rapport with offer up private dances at a discount.

Inevitably, I get a number and we hook up later. Keep in mind, in only one case was this the hottest girl in the club. Most often it is just some average looking dancer who is a little bored with her job and wants some conversation.

I did this in Vegas at that one stripclub (IIRC, there is only one) in the Fremont Experience. I did the tip every dancer and smile thing. The chick was average but fun. She offered a discount to go for a private dance and gave one hell of a show. We chatted a bit and she was into poker too and offered to show me some of the good poker bookstores in Vegas. She called me at like 2 or 3 in the morning wanting to hang out after her shift. She came up to my room and after some bullshit convo we were fucking. The next day we hit a couple of bookstores, had cheap dinner at my hotel (I think it was the four queens) and I was pounding her again that night.

So yeah, I have no idea how to pull the hottest strippers at the most expensive clubs, but being friendly and escalating has worked wonders for me with average strippers in average clubs.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-05-2012 12:43 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Fourth, smile. Seriously. Most of the dudes in the club are either scowling or have that creepy "I would really like to rape you" face on.

Just being a normal cool cat will get you very far in these places.

Basically you just have to do the opposite of what "regular guy" does.

[el mechanico]

I wrote here on this..
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6460-p...l#pid91021
It might help if you don't go to the most famous strip club in the country. Try some off the beaten path and work your way up.