[Roosh]

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I need feminism, because even if you play by all their rules and do everything “right”, the system is designed to make sure you still don’t win.

Translation: I need feminism to give me shortcuts over those who are more successful.

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I need feminism to check my white, hetero, cismale privelege.

Translation: I need feminism to justify my self-loathing.

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I need feminism because women who are afraid to express themselves are useless, and men who are afraid of strong women are beneath contempt.

Translation: I need feminism to excuse my masculine behavior.

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I need Feminism…because my 5 year old son shouldn’t be called girly like its an insult because he has long hair and doesn’t want to cut it.

Translation: I need feminism to justify making my son gay.

It just goes on and on...

http://whoneedsfeminism.tumblr.com/

[Roosh]

[Deluge]

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I need feminism because enjoying sex does not make me a ho, slut, or nympho.

Enjoying sex being a euphemism for fucking around instead of enjoying it with a select few guys over her lifetime. Destroying her value as a long term prospect.

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I need feminism because my sense of self worth is not directly proportionate to the number of men I “could sleep with,” and because a statement to that effect is not a compliment.

What is this nonsense? Even a warpig would have a dozen guys willing to fuck her. Racking up a high notch count does not require any modicum of skill for the female since they are the gatekeepers to sex. Whoever wrote this is out of touch with reality.

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I need feminism because patriarchy is not working.

Women have become more neurotic, less happy (men haven't), more flithy (shitting in urinals anyone?) and worse prospects for long term relationships since the sexual revolution. Add on to that the swarm of out of wedlock births and singlemother children who universally have poorer outcomes than children from two parent families. It's feminism that's not working.

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My Christian, white, cis male Facebook friend here seems to think that because he (supposedly) treats women better than he treats men, he doesn’t need feminism.

What does him being white have to do with it? Race has nothing to do with this. Racist much?

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I need feminism because society has made me feel as though my appearance is never good enough.

Don't blame society and images burped out of a shitty Television screen for your own lack of self-esteem. That's just sad.

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I need feminism because I can’t put my gender on my Facebook without fear of an employer not hiring me because I’m trans*.

Funny, because feminists hate transgendered people. Why? Because feminists fail to understand that we are not born with blank slates, we are born pre-disposed to fit our stereotypical gender roles. When feminists think of Trans people they become hostile because they see them as consciously choosing to change their gender identity instead of realizing that they were born that way. This is especially true for radical feminists (radfems).

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I need feminism because the number of doors slammed in my face shouldn’t be directly proportional to my weight.

I need feminism because the pound is not the unit of measurement of my worth.

Yes, please continue being a massive burden on society and America's already fragile healthcare system. Enjoy your early death due to diabetes and the fact that your children have a higher chance of being born autistic.

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I need feminism because I’m sick of being the only woman in my physics class.

I’m the professor.

You'd think a person with a Doctorate would be aware by now of innate gender differences in different interests and forms of intelligence. The latest findings in Evolutionary Psychology and Biology should make you ashamed to call yourself a science professor.

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I need feminism because I’m tired of guy friends telling me to stop being “such a girl”.

That's all I can be bothered to comment on.

Edit: Just one more

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I need feminism because I strongly feel that the ideas regarding men and women having inherent thinking differences is sexist, and needs to be deconstructed and squashed like a bug

Unfortunately for you, it's true.

[Bad Hussar]

I probably don't want to know the answer, but what is a "cismale"?

The guys writting earnest answers to this question should just admit that they are gay and/or the "M's" in "S&M"".

The world would be a much better place if people just accepted who they are and lived true to that, rather than pretending that their minority viewpoint should be forced on everyone else.

Be gay, or be a man who gets a kick out of having women whip him and treat him badly, but for the love of all that is holy, just be happy being yourself and don't project your kinks on the general population.

[SpiderKing]

P Dog,

Could you clarify this please? If feminists prefer nurture over nature by denying normal gender roles, it would seem that transgendered people are on the same page in promoting tabula rasa by choosing/nurturing their gender identity.

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I need feminism because I can’t put my gender on my Facebook without fear of an employer not hiring me because I’m trans*.

Funny, because feminists hate transgendered people. Why? Because feminists fail to understand that we are not born with blank slates, we are born pre-disposed to fit our stereotypical gender roles. When feminists think of Trans people they become hostile because they see them as consciously choosing to change their gender identity instead of realizing that they were born that way. This is especially true for radical feminists (radfems).

It's under "Cisgender" on wikipedia

(04-13-2012 08:04 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

I probably don't want to know the answer, but what is a "cismale"?

[Deluge]

(04-13-2012 08:39 AM)SpiderKing Wrote:  

P Dog,
Could you clarify this please? If feminists prefer nurture over nature by denying normal gender roles, it would seem that transgendered people are on the same page in promoting tabula rasa by choosing/nurturing their gender identity.

A Voice for Men went over this when they went after Radfem's secret forum. Take a look at the LGBT movement's theme song "Born This Way" by Lady Gaga which is what I made a reference to. Trans people insist that they were born that way, which they are. It's the exact same with homosexuals eg. "We didn't choose this lifestyle, we were born this way". Hence their opposition to Evangelical Christians telling them to "Pray away the gay". Homosexuality for example has been linked to fetuses being exposed to unusual hormonal conditions (too much testosterone, excees testosterone converts to estrogen) in their mothers womb. This is also why gay men have slightly longer dicks on average then straight men due to increased testosterone exposure in the fetal stage. Off the top of my head I can't recall the exact conditions that precipitate being born Trans but they have a lot in common. Feminist theory however insists that we are all born psychologically gender neutral and all of the "masculine" and "feminine" distinctions are completely cultural. In the context of transgender people, anatomical males trying to become anatomically female and identify with being female gets radical feminists knickers in a massive bunch and from the radfem perspective it's not hard to imagine why. I'll try to find the AVFM stuff on this for you articulate this a lot better than I could.

[j r]

Here's my take:

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Who needs feminism?

Women in Saudi Arabia, who are legally forbidden from driving cars.
Women in certain African countries that are forced to get circumcised as teenagers.
Women in other African countries that are gang-raped by roving gangs of thugs.

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Who doesn't need feminism?

Middle class idiots in the developed world, where women already have full legal equality, but still complain cause they can't have their cake and eat it too.
Some dumbass with a Women's Studies degree who is wondering why the guy with an Engineering degree makes more than her.
Some beta schlub who thinks posting about feminism on his FB wall is going to get him anything more than a condescending pat on the head from the chick who's going to spend her 20s banging aloof assholes.

[Andy_B]

Man, I'm actually sitting in a college library right now. I've had the experience of reading the blog and forum in this setting before, and it's always borderline surreal. I don't know how long it's been since you graduated, Roosh, but I can tell you that the politically correct trolling at colleges has gotten exponentially worse in the five years since I became a student. Everywhere you look, you can see posters that tell you stuff like "making eye contact with a girl is rape". That and you can see all kinds of women running around with that semi-shaved head thing going on. After a while you just want to hang your head and cry.

[j r]

Or how about this?

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I need feminism because...

... paying for dates is so thirty years ago.
... showing how non-judgmental I am is a really effective way of having no-holes-barred prono sex with a chick I met two days ago.
... showing that I don't give a shit about feminist nonsense works really well at lubricating SPWL giny.

[kosko]

PDOG its funny that hardcore feminism rejects transpeople because they overwhelmingly piggyback off them to give there delusional movement traction. Just like feminism absorbed the Gay/Lesbo movement also it was simply just a tactic to add numbers to their cause.

Ya that half-head-shaved trend chics got going is played out. I like out their broads and it was a good gauge for freaks but that was like 2 some years ago. Now its just wack and add to it girls with shitty tattoos. Yuk.

The tide has now turned tho. Men are getting creamed in Academia and the earnings. The Male-Rights movement can start throwing rocks at the frail glass house called feminism.

[Giovonny]

Sometimes I think we spend too much time talking about feminism and not enough time talking about MASCULISM!

[Tuthmosis]

(04-13-2012 09:35 AM)Andy_B Wrote:  

Everywhere you look, you can see posters that tell you stuff like "making eye contact with a girl is rape". That and you can see all kinds of women running around with that semi-shaved head thing going on. After a while you just want to hang your head and cry.

I'm not sure if you're using hyperbole here but, if not, you need to take a picture of that sign(s) and post it here as its own thread.

[WesternCancer]

(04-13-2012 09:29 AM)j r Wrote:  

Here's my take:

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Who needs feminism?

Women in Saudi Arabia, who are legally forbidden from driving cars.
Women in certain African countries that are forced to get circumcised as teenagers.
Women in other African countries that are gang-raped by roving gangs of thugs.

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Who doesn't need feminism?

Middle class idiots in the developed world, where women already have full legal equality, but still complain cause they can't have their cake and eat it too.
Some dumbass with a Women's Studies degree who is wondering why the guy with an Engineering degree makes more than her.
Some beta schlub who thinks posting about feminism on his FB wall is going to get him anything more than a condescending pat on the head from the chick who's going to spend her 20s banging aloof assholes.

good post. I like how a lot of the 'reasons' are for the woman being treated poorly because she has traits that people dont like in anyone, not just women. its not gender inequality you're just a shitty human being.

and the ones about job inequalities scream entitlement, what have YOU done (women) to deserve equal pay to someone else. Again not based on gender, its based on your worth as a human being.

I also hate when feminists complain about shaming. Shaming only has effect if you let it, if these people are seriously complaining because they don't have the fortitude to live their own life how they want without a care of what other people think. Don't they want to 'deconstruct gender roles' why don't they start by living their life as if their ideology has already dominated the world. You don't want to be shamed? Don't let people's words bother you. Feel you make less money than your manager? Drop your job at walmart and do something to better your chance of landing a higher paying job. Don't want people harassing you about a sex-change see point one or don't yell it out to the world. Its like every feminist sees themself as a martyr. "poor me, heres an example of X therefore X is widespread in society and should be destroyed" "im 500lbs and my doctor told me to lose weight, a real womyn shouldn't be fat shamed and should love her body the way it is, no matter what she did to make it that way"

[Andy_B]

(04-13-2012 11:38 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 09:35 AM)Andy_B Wrote:  

Everywhere you look, you can see posters that tell you stuff like "making eye contact with a girl is rape". That and you can see all kinds of women running around with that semi-shaved head thing going on. After a while you just want to hang your head and cry.

I'm not sure if you're using hyperbole here but, if not, you need to take a picture of that sign(s) and post it here as its own thread.

I'm deeply sorry, brother, but hyperbole it was.

[j r]

(04-13-2012 11:40 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 09:29 AM)j r Wrote:  

Here's my take:

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Who needs feminism?

Women in Saudi Arabia, who are legally forbidden from driving cars.
Women in certain African countries that are forced to get circumcised as teenagers.
Women in other African countries that are gang-raped by roving gangs of thugs.

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Who doesn't need feminism?

Middle class idiots in the developed world, where women already have full legal equality, but still complain cause they can't have their cake and eat it too.
Some dumbass with a Women's Studies degree who is wondering why the guy with an Engineering degree makes more than her.
Some beta schlub who thinks posting about feminism on his FB wall is going to get him anything more than a condescending pat on the head from the chick who's going to spend her 20s banging aloof assholes.

good post. I like how a lot of the 'reasons' are for the woman being treated poorly because she has traits that people dont like in anyone, not just women. its not gender inequality you're just a shitty human being.

and the ones about job inequalities scream entitlement, what have YOU done (women) to deserve equal pay to someone else. Again not based on gender, its based on your worth as a human being.

I also hate when feminists complain about shaming. Shaming only has effect if you let it, if these people are seriously complaining because they don't have the fortitude to live their own life how they want without a care of what other people think. Don't they want to 'deconstruct gender roles' why don't they start by living their life as if their ideology has already dominated the world. You don't want to be shamed? Don't let people's words bother you. Feel you make less money than your manager? Drop your job at walmart and do something to better your chance of landing a higher paying job. Don't want people harassing you about a sex-change see point one or don't yell it out to the world. Its like every feminist sees themself as a martyr. "poor me, heres an example of X therefore X is widespread in society and should be destroyed" "im 500lbs and my doctor told me to lose weight, a real womyn shouldn't be fat shamed and should love her body the way it is, no matter what she did to make it that way"

Contemporary feminism presents itself as the struggle for equal rights, but it isn't. Contemporary feminism is about the privileging of female mating preferences. Feminists want to have the freedom to do whatever they want sexually, while at the same time preventing men, and other women, from making any judgments based on female behavior. The ideal feminist society is one where women can sleep around as much as she wants during the years that her market value is at its highest and then cash out with either a desirable man, or the state, to take care of her and her kids as she gets older.

I don't blame women for wanting that. It makes perfect sense. I just wish they weren't so self-delusional as to try and make this a matter of "social justice," whatever that means.

[porcupine]

Some of their concerns are legit, though, especially since women are being FORCED to go to clubs and dance to music they don't like.



http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1...=1&theater

[Roosh]

(04-13-2012 01:28 PM)porcupine Wrote:  

Some of their concerns are legit, though, especially since women are being FORCED to go to clubs and dance to music they don't like.



http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1...=1&theater

Open comments! I left one.

[WesternCancer]

To me so many of these pictures are seeking approval. "i need feminism so i can feel beautiful/comfortable in my own skin" instead of working to improve themselves they cop-out and blame it on someone else (males). so when feminism causes them to be beautiful who is determining that? the guys they are fucking. DELUSIONAL.

[Samseau]

(04-13-2012 09:35 AM)Andy_B Wrote:  

Man, I'm actually sitting in a college library right now. I've had the experience of reading the blog and forum in this setting before, and it's always borderline surreal. I don't know how long it's been since you graduated, Roosh, but I can tell you that the politically correct trolling at colleges has gotten exponentially worse in the five years since I became a student. Everywhere you look, you can see posters that tell you stuff like "making eye contact with a girl is rape". That and you can see all kinds of women running around with that semi-shaved head thing going on. After a while you just want to hang your head and cry.

These are from a random university in the northeast:

   

   

   


Thank God I'm done with college

[Gmac]

So these posters are basically teaching young men to whiteknight / cockblock. Yeah I'm glad I'm out of college. You gotta be a sneaky motherfucker these days to be a player out in the open.

[gringochileno]

Yeah, I'm not in favor of banging a passed-out girl but these campaigns where they go after hooking up with drunk people are insane. What the hell is wrong with people who think consensual drunk sex isn't OK? Anybody who thinks that has got to be either a total femcunt or a huge pussy with a notch count no higher than the low single-digits.

[Roosh]

I'll bet a lot of money those posters are created by Women's Studies majors.

[j r]

(04-13-2012 03:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'll bet a lot of money those posters are created by Women's Studies majors.

It's all part of a big scam. These groups produce all this propaganda claiming that sexual assault is happening at epidemic proportions. And that justifies funneling more money into the non-profit sector, so more groups can put out the same propaganda and women's studies majors can have jobs. These groups rarely submit to any sort of objective evaluation that demonstrates that any thing they do actually helps prevent rape.

Next time you see some sexual assault stat in the paper or in a magazine, go to the source. Chances are it's from some advocacy group that either did a half-assed survey or just use data from some other advocacy group. The whole myth of date rape drugs is the perfect example. Go online and try to find any actual verification that date rape drugs are used with any frequency.

[Roosh]

We need to identify this man and do an intervention.

[j r]

The funny things is that I'm willing to guess that dude has never even come close to contributing to rape culture. If the world where full of dudes like that, women could walk down the street butt naked and men wouldn't even dare steal a peek at their boobs.

Well, at least until dudes snapped and starting murdering everyone in sight.