[Deluge]

(03-15-2012 07:41 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

(03-15-2012 12:23 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

I've seen Tyler's videos. They're all night game or night time street game outside the clubs. Paul Junka would be better off for day game help. He basically advocates aggressive and fast day game to get high volume of numbers, then he'll invite girls up to his apartment for the first date and goes aggressively for the bang. Similar to Tuthomosis's "New Recipe for First Date Bangs". It's worth checking out simply for burning into your mind that every time you go out or go on a date, your crib should be in striking distance so you can actually go for the bang.

P Dog : Can you link some videos or torrents of Paul Janka's Day game to date to bang like you talked about....... much thanks....

Apologies for the double post, he doesn't make videos as far as I'm aware, like pretty much every top level player on this Forum, you don't need to infield footage to believe someone. However, he did do some approaches in New York on Dr. Phil, which you can easily find on Youtube.

[w00t]

Tyler still preaches to this day that its all about game and looks dont mean anything at all. I cant take a guy like that seriously.

[Sebastian]

I am sure tyler loves those kind of followers.
Someone talks bad and they show up to defend him like a brother.

(03-15-2012 01:13 PM)the_conductor Wrote:  

(03-15-2012 09:13 AM)bface Wrote:  

When did rooshvforum become puahate v2.0?

jerome is a funny troll though.

@ jerome and germanico

[soup]

(03-16-2012 06:28 AM)w00t Wrote:  

Tyler still preaches to this day that its all about game and looks dont mean anything at all. I cant take a guy like that seriously.

I think you can only define game as how you deal with the things over which you can potentially control. There are a lot of changes guys can make to appear more presentable to women. That said, short of getting surgery, you can't do much about your things like actual height, hair, distance between eyes, etc.

Of course, having good physical attributes can give you an advantage, but you don't have to be Johnny Depp to bang very attractive women.

[w00t]

You can work out and you.can dress nice. My own results.ingetting dates have doubled or.even tripled.since.i.stopped.dressing lime a bum and got.some noce.clothes. Tyler stilll preaches thqt all of.this.doesnt matter and you only need tight game. Thata fucking bullshit and teachimg concepts like that to ppl wbo.have problems getting laid in the.first place, one could.get.the impression that hes more interested in keeping his customers NOT successfull so.they come back and buy more products. I cant take a dude like that serious imo hes full of.shit. It you.dont believe me watch the blueprint dvds its all in there.

Ps sorry for shitty spelling im typing on my phone right now.

[bface]

(03-16-2012 01:32 PM)w00t Wrote:  

You can work out and you.can dress nice. My own results.ingetting dates have doubled or.even tripled.since.i.stopped.dressing lime a bum and got.some noce.clothes. Tyler stilll preaches thqt all of.this.doesnt matter and you only need tight game. Thata fucking bullshit and teachimg concepts like that to ppl wbo.have problems getting laid in the.first place, one could.get.the impression that hes more interested in keeping his customers NOT successfull so.they come back and buy more products. I cant take a dude like that serious imo hes full of.shit. It you.dont believe me watch the blueprint dvds its all in there.

I have pulled multiple times while dressed like shit coming straight from training BJJ without showering. Really disgusting to be honest. But the girls didn't care. (Not proud of that by the way)

I will state it again, the RSD guys helped me pull my life around with just their free material, so it's definitely not just marketing BS. (This is also why people defend them, because it worked for them).

And looks don't matter if you are trying to learn game. You can't change your looks.

I don't get all the hating... Life and let live...

[oldnemesis]

(03-14-2012 12:01 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Tyler argues that there is zero difference to how you should run your day game. Watch the first minute of the video to hear him on this.

He mentioned it during the bootcamp as well, and I had a ten minute talk with him about it. So yeah, I agree this is definitely the case for him and people similar to him. It is worth mentioning that he is not drinking at all, and he's not dancing (he says he can't dance). So those elements of a club have no effect on him. And with his style he teaches indeed there is no difference between day and night game.

[Freedom]

It is what it is. RSD does not have day game products so don't expect day game advice. It's like going to a physician to fix your smile. Visit an orthodontist and he will suggest braces to fix your smile. Visit a cosmetic surgeon and he will suggest lip injections or a face tuck.

I can respect Owen (his real name) for creating a business of a desirable lifestyle. He is a good entertainer and presenter. Nick on the other hand is not as good, but Owen mentioned Nick does the business development and finance. I attended RSD Hot Seat and can tell you he recycled much of his video footage from the World Summit, but his explanations (Owen calls them breakdowns) were different. What irks me is that two other people at the Hot Seat also attended the World Summit, but didn't mention anything.

I on the other hand, brought it up to him at the end of his presentation. I clearly explained that the Hot Seat was informative but didn't like the fact he recycled material. His immediate response was "Shhhh... come over here with me." LOL. So he tried to tell me the breakdown was different of the videos, but I didn't accept that response, and he could not provide a better answer so he allowed me to get a refund from by emailing his assistant. This probably would have me jumping through hoops, so I told him I paid cash (which I really did).

[UgSlayer]

(03-16-2012 07:37 PM)Freedom Wrote:  

It is what it is. RSD does not have day game products so don't expect day game advice. It's like going to a physician to fix your smile. Visit an orthodontist and he will suggest braces to fix your smile. Visit a cosmetic surgeon and he will suggest lip injections or a face tuck.

I can respect Owen (his real name) for creating a business of a desirable lifestyle. He is a good entertainer and presenter. Nick on the other hand is not as good, but Owen mentioned Nick does the business development and finance. I attended RSD Hot Seat and can tell you he recycled much of his video footage from the World Summit, but his explanations (Owen calls them breakdowns) were different. What irks me is that two other people at the Hot Seat also attended the World Summit, but didn't mention anything.

I on the other hand, brought it up to him at the end of his presentation. I clearly explained that the Hot Seat was informative but didn't like the fact he recycled material. His immediate response was "Shhhh... come over here with me." LOL. So he tried to tell me the breakdown was different of the videos, but I didn't accept that response, and he could not provide a better answer so he allowed me to get a refund from by emailing his assistant. This probably would have me jumping through hoops, so I told him I paid cash (which I really did).

Did you get your money back?

[Sebastian]

Remember when you had a public speaker in your school?
(kindergarten to college)
I am sure one of them said something like 'you can be whoever you want to be' It inspired you right?
you know why because he was saying that to you even though he didn't have a Personal Interest in You.

Now, this guys comes and gives a same type of speech,
'you an be whoever you want to be, you want me show you how? take my bootcamps for 3 days! only $2999! It will change your life'
Now how you are going to respond to that?
(omg, this guy truly wants to help me, maybe god listened to my prey last night and sent him over -> so dumb)

Honestly, I watched many of his videos on youtube. Because it's free and I am not dumb enough swallow all the info he throws. I filter it and just keep the core info. It just comes down to the basic which is 'Confidence'
yes it's all about confidence.

I feel deeply sorry for these guys following someone's advice without realizing their true Identity.
Whether you run small ice cream store or run Starbucks corp, the basic formula is the same. (eg: treat customers right) However, you shouldn't run your business like a coffee shop when you actually have an ice cream store (putting fake personality)

Oh btw, I don't have any personal interest in you.
Whatever you do, I won't take a penny from it.

(03-16-2012 02:27 PM)bface Wrote:  

(03-16-2012 01:32 PM)w00t Wrote:  

You can work out and you.can dress nice. My own results.ingetting dates have doubled or.even tripled.since.i.stopped.dressing lime a bum and got.some noce.clothes. Tyler stilll preaches thqt all of.this.doesnt matter and you only need tight game. Thata fucking bullshit and teachimg concepts like that to ppl wbo.have problems getting laid in the.first place, one could.get.the impression that hes more interested in keeping his customers NOT successfull so.they come back and buy more products. I cant take a dude like that serious imo hes full of.shit. It you.dont believe me watch the blueprint dvds its all in there.

I have pulled multiple times while dressed like shit coming straight from training BJJ without showering. Really disgusting to be honest. But the girls didn't care. (Not proud of that by the way)

I will state it again, the RSD guys helped me pull my life around with just their free material, so it's definitely not just marketing BS. (This is also why people defend them, because it worked for them).

And looks don't matter if you are trying to learn game. You can't change your looks.

I don't get all the hating... Life and let live...

[Freedom]

(03-17-2012 01:05 AM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

Did you get your money back?

In fairness, I negotiated a partial refund.

[dk902]

What Roosh writes in Day Bang how night vs day game is like cats vs dogs really does make a lot of sense to me.

You can be a cocky asshole during the evening where during the day that shit doesn't slide. It will just come across as weird. However you can drop some teasing and jokes during the day depending how it fits into your particular personality.

But I really think Day game just comes down to being a cool interesting guy. I find day gaming in a foreign country especially one where you speak the language is exponentially better than my own (foreign factor). Even if you're from out of town you can get them to elicit a question from you with the 'where I'm from we don't have xyz.' - Her follow up would typically be 'oh where are you from?'

To get good at day game it's just a simple matter of putting in the work doing your approaches and adjusting your vibe from night game. Realise as a previous poster said its more about building comfort and setting up for day 2. Once you get good then you can develop your own niche, e.g. Subway, book store, museum etc and adjust your openers and ramble on that.

[bacan]

I am starting to focus on day game... I actually got a new flag by rambling on with a girl that I met during the very same day that I read Day Bang... It was really satisfying to see her go from an unimpressed stranger with her arms crossed to asking about me and smiling after minutes of just rambling and rambling about her country and my trip.

It was really quite natural for me to use day game on girls in a country I didn't live in.. I could sincerely ask them questions about where to find places, what to do and could sincerely ramble on about my experiences and reflections of their country on my trip..

I tried to day game yesterday for the first time since getting back to where I live and I just feel like a clown approaching girls to ask them information that I already know or don't want to know...

I agree that day game is drudgery compared to night game, especially because my night game is basically life-of-the-party game. After reading about Roosh's successful although somewhat low-energy sounding sniper game at night, I can see how they are kind of similar. In both scenarios you are quietly biding your time until you get a chance to start chatting up a cute girl. But it sounds a little boring to me and makes your fun completely dependent on your outcome with a girl, hmm.

Anyway trying to day game when I'm not traveling was SUPER hard and it revealed a huge hole in my game that I'm now focused on trying to improve every day.

[boinerd]

Lots of gurus in here.

[The Beast1]

How the hell does that RSD tyler guy get laid?

I could snap a man like him in half and i'm not even that strong.

[WestIndianArchie]

(10-10-2014 09:25 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

How the hell does that RSD tyler guy get laid?

I could snap a man like him in half and i'm not even that strong.

Cause you don't need to look like Brock Lesnar or Cristiano Ronaldo to get a chick to suck your dick.

When some guys are pumping iron or hitting the heavy bag, Tyler was talking to a chick, getting into her mind, and getting into her pants.

If you can't imagine that a Short, balding, pudgy, Canadian ginger can talk his way into some good looking pussy in front of people for more than a decade...well....

WIA

[The Beast1]

(10-10-2014 12:42 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 09:25 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

How the hell does that RSD tyler guy get laid?

I could snap a man like him in half and i'm not even that strong.

Cause you don't need to look like Brock Lesnar or Cristiano Ronaldo to get a chick to suck your dick.

When some guys are pumping iron or hitting the heavy bag, Tyler was talking to a chick, getting into her mind, and getting into her pants.

If you can't imagine that a Short, balding, pudgy, Canadian ginger can talk his way into some good looking pussy in front of people for more than a decade...well....

WIA

Don't get me wrong, I believe it. I used to read his stuff back in the day and bought into it as a young high energy extroverted guy. I want to know how he keeps up at it. My energy and patience to pull that stuff has long since waned.

I used to read his stuff back when I was a member of sosuave in my pre-roosh days back in 2010. I saw some videos and the basics all made sense.

But that high energy stuff only worked for me when I was in college gaming broads. That was my game for quite awhile and it worked well enough.

Post college things are a lot different.

I want to see his ratio of bangs/no bangs and see if the match up to Jenka's stats. Ironically, throwing all of his stuff in the trash and focusing on what this forum sells (self improvement) made all of his "get into the girl's mind" stuff pointless. Why treat a girl like a complicated puzzle when you can just blast through it with minimal effort?