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Do you want a LTR/girlfriend? Here's how to get one.
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Do you want a LTR/girlfriend? Here's how to get one.

This is completely and totally accurate for American women.

This kind of goes back to the post I made over in G-Man's thread about the latest episode of the Travel Bum show where he travels to Cancun and interacts with both American and Mexican girls.

The basic gist of that long post was that when it comes to American girls, you must adhere to your most base instincts in order to succeed. The Travel Bum noticed this too: whenever he tried to approach American girls, he fell flat unless he was shitfaced. The alcohol allowed him to be more crude/base and sexually direct, and this is the only type of talk that got a warm response from them (ex: "I feel like we don't even need to talk, we can just go and make babies right now").
He could calmly and soberly approach Mexican girls and talk about respectful, non-sexual things to begin with (ex: what do you study, why do you study it, etc)-he didn't need to escalate immediately to get a good response from her. One of them even thanked him after he was done and suggested a place to meet up.

When he tried that on the Americans, they essentially rolled their eyes and quickly told him (non verbally) to fuck off. They simply have no tolerance for anything above a base level of sexual conduct when it comes to beginning a relationship. If anything, that repulses them.

What young guys need to remember is that with the average American woman, you must devolve, and regress to a more primal state of being (read: become a caveman). There is no room for calm, measured approaches, no room for chivalry, no room for anything remotely gentlemanly or intellectual, and no time to wait a few dates for sex. Throw ALL of that out the window, or prepare for involuntary celibacy.

For some guys this is VERY difficult to do, especially if you're more of an intellectual type, but they need to find a way. Dating here is fiercely anti-intellectual. Girls do not want to hear anything "too smart" from the men they're with-this is an instant turn off. Dumb it down, and hide your intelligence until well after you've become intimately acquainted.

You have no time to waste for escalation either-it needs to happen quickly, or she will disappear. Get sexual fast. Keep it within reason (use common sense-you should know what'll get you labelled a rapist/creeper) but don't be afraid to be forward or say something that seems too "explicit" for someone you're not involved with yet-with the American woman, it is almost never too much. Make ample use of light touches and other forms of kino escalation.

You need to just assume that she is willing to fuck on the first night, and treat her accordingly-if you have her on a pedestal as many young guys do ("oh, she's WAY too sweet for that, I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate me objectifying her so early. Better take it slow!"), knock her off of it-ASSUME she's already fucking someone else. Chances are that if she isn't fucking you right off the bat, she actually is fucking someone else early-I don't care who she is or how "innocent" she appears.

If you are just too respectful/laidback a guy to do this naturally, then use alcohol as an aid. Figure out the level of intoxication you need that'll allow you to regularly escalate early and without fear (without getting blackout/sloppy drunk), and get it in your system. This has helped me quite a bit. Normally, I'm very prone to sounding "too smart" or "too nice" if left to soberly converse with a girl. When I have a solid buzz on, I become an aggressive caveman-women seem to prefer that version of me a lot more.

Bottomline: With American women, it is an absolute, balls-to-the-wall race to the bottom, and the first man (or men-many of these girls are far from monogamous) to get there wins. Find the fastest route downhill and you're golden. He who dares, wins.

On a related (and more "macro") note: In the Travel Bum video, I noticed a bunch of foreign guys (mainly the Argentinians) saying that American girls were hard. I've heard this from other foreign men as well. A few of us here must naturally think that this is absurd, since we know how slutty american girls are relative to others.

However, I think this thread topic might shed some light onto why other guys think this way. Think about it: we've concluded here that to succeed with American girls, you MUST escalate very rapidly, even if you want an LTR. In many other societies, things run quite the contrary: you're expected to court for a little while and be respectful before you get into bed. Same-night-lays in these places are not very common relative to the US, and you can actually hurt your chances if you escalate too openly and rapidly.

For a guy coming from a society like that, America would be extremely challenging to adjust to. He simply won't be prepared to escalate as quickly as he'd need to, and it could take him a very long time to adjust.

Know your enemy and know yourself, find naught in fear for 100 battles. Know yourself but not your enemy, find level of loss and victory. Know thy enemy but not yourself, wallow in defeat every time.
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