[pitt]

Many people on here and on PUA community tend to bash a lot the complimenting game as if it was one of the poorest game one could run.

I dont like throwing compliments to just any type of girl, even if she is really my type but there are some that i feel obliged to compliment, they are truly unique.

I have fucked so many girls using the complimenting game, dont get me wrong, this game has also fucked up many potential bangs (i dont know if they just lost interest or if it was me who was coming across as being desperate, i believe is the latter one).

But i just noticed that the more i get into this web game community, the lesser i feel like using the complimenting game. Fuck, i was about to do it just now to a girl who i speak with on msn (im moving to her), then i thought that im breaking the law of the game.

Then both sides of me were arguing - one was telling me that this strategy actually got me laid many times and that i shouldnt give a fuck but the other side is telling me that this strategy has also fucked up many potential bangs.

So im asking the community here. Is the complimenting game just a bad strategy overall?

[Moma]

pitt - I learned this in Africa from a seasoned playa. He said that with women, you have to blow hot - cold with them.

So put them down in a complimentary fashion i.e.

That soup was too peppery but I was really hungry! He told me while I say this, I should smile.

So you hit them with a sweet and sour combo. I will be trying this for 2012.

In terms of whether it works or not, I try not to compliment a lizard too much. You gas her head and then she starts to look for better meals. I think that is a safe general rule.

[el mechanico]

(01-25-2012 10:46 AM)Moma Wrote:  

pitt - I learned this in Africa from a seasoned playa. He said that with women, you have to blow hot - cold with them.

So put them down in a complimentary fashion i.e.

That soup was too peppery but I was really hungry! He told me while I say this, I should smile.

So you hit them with a sweet and sour combo. I will be trying this for 2012.

In terms of whether it works or not, I try not to compliment a lizard too much. You gas her head and then she starts to look for better meals. I think that is a safe general rule.

Hey! you gots a big phat azz! Looks sweet in dem jeans

Like that?

[Moma]

hmm mechanico, that is a nice one..play on her self esteem and bring it back up..I'm liking that.. please construct a few more..storing them in the iphone right now..

[Caligula]

There are two places where compliments work wonders

1. Push/pull
2. Qualification

1. In push/pull (what Moma is talking about) you push her away or disqualify yourself ("this will never work out..." "I'm breaking up with you..." "You're fired..." whatever) and then reel her back in with a compliment. Just be careful that it doesn't look like you're backtracking or scared of losing her.

2. Qualifying her with a compliment can be powerful too. She needs to know why you like her. You can say something like "you're not like other girls. A lot of girls claim to be adventurous, but you actually are." or whatever bullshit comes to mind. Because girls constantly compare themselves to other girls, comparing her favourably to them (without ever mentioning her looks) is powerful.

Qualifying compliments are key when a girl is suspicious about your motives or wondering why you're spending time with her; eg. if there's a big age gap, you're much higher value than her, etc.

[Neo]

In my experience it depends. A lot of it has to do with your frame of mind, intent, and sincerity.

[Scarlet_Terror]

Never compliment a beautiful woman on her looks. They get it so much they either ignore it or it turns her against you.

I guess if you're gaming a 6 or something and you're way hotter than her (I consider myself a high 7) then compliments can work. I've been laying in bed with a decent amount of hot girls who literally said to me:

"I love the fact you never gave me any compliments about my looks on our first dates".

[pitt]

(01-25-2012 11:50 AM)Neo Wrote:  

In my experience it depends. A lot of it has to do with your frame of mind, intent, and sincerity. If she can tell you're just doing it because you want to bang, then you're sure to fail(unless she's incredibly horny at the moment or into you to begin with). Even if you really just want to hit if you actually come across as sincere her reaction can be positive. I think the original reason why game people have said to never compliment is that every guy was going up to girls and telling them they are hot/beautiful/whatever, so it boosts their ego and you get nothing for it.

As a default I steer clear of compliments early on when we don't know each other well. Her looks are always off limits. In the rare case where I do compliment, I try to find something unique that nobody's really complimented her on before.

Once a girl is into you and you have value in her eyes, complimenting can be an effective tool in gaining more rapport and getting the bang.

As Caligula pointed out, she has to know why you like her.

Yeah that was a wise man commment, i agree with everything you have said.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-25-2012 10:41 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Many people on here and on PUA community tend to bash a lot the complimenting game as if it was one of the poorest game one could run.

I dont like throwing compliments to just any type of girl, even if she is really my type but there are some that i feel obliged to compliment, they are truly unique.

I have fucked so many girls using the complimenting game, dont get me wrong, this game has also fucked up many potential bangs (i dont know if they just lost interest or if it was me who was coming across as being desperate, i believe is the latter one).

But i just noticed that the more i get into this web game community, the lesser i feel like using the complimenting game. Fuck, i was about to do it just now to a girl who i speak with on msn (im moving to her), then i thought that im breaking the law of the game.

Then both sides of me were arguing - one was telling me that this strategy actually got me laid many times and that i shouldnt give a fuck but the other side is telling me that this strategy has also fucked up many potential bangs.

So im asking the community here. Is the complimenting game just a bad strategy overall?

The reason why the PUA crowd is so against complimenting girls is because of the PUA consumer demographic.

The people that they sell to, generally speaking, have no confidence or Game.

A guy with no confidence or Game that compliments a girl comes off weak.

If you compliment girls from a position of strength, it works.

[Moma]

I agree with Caligula. I told this lizard last year that she had a nice big nose. She did but her face fitted it. This was a sensitive area for her and her eyes watered.

I told her I like big noses and kissed her. I fingered her later on that evening.

Push/Pull can work.

[Giovonny]

The problem is neediness!

Most guys don't know how to compliment without sounding very needy.

You don't need her and you are superior to her - Compliment her from that frame of mind.

[Caligula]

(01-25-2012 12:45 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

The problem is neediness!

Most guys don't know how to compliment without sounding very needy.

You don't need her and you are superior to her - Compliment her from that frame of mind.

Yeah the difference in her mind is:

Needy compliment - "What a loser. He thinks he can just say that and I'll like him more. He probably doesn't even mean it. Maybe he'll buy me a drink."

Alpha compliment - "Oh my god! He likes my nose!! Are my boobs too small??" BLUSH.

[Thorfinnsson]

I strongly second the qualification compliment (not that I disagree on the dudes saying push/pull or alpha).

This might sound cheesy, but it's something I often say that's effective after I've already built some interest.

"I ordinarily hate most girls...but I don't hate you."

Another place were compliments are effective is when the girl is very young and insecure--the sort who believes she is legitimately not attractive and that no man (especially no alpha) could want her. Of course, most of the girls you approach who pass your boner test aren't going to have this attitude, but they are out there.

[el mechanico]

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[thegmanifesto]

(01-25-2012 12:53 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 12:45 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

The problem is neediness!

Most guys don't know how to compliment without sounding very needy.

You don't need her and you are superior to her - Compliment her from that frame of mind.

Yeah the difference in her mind is:

Needy compliment - "What a loser. He thinks he can just say that and I'll like him more. He probably doesn't even mean it. Maybe he'll buy me a drink."

Alpha compliment - "Oh my god! He likes my nose!! Are my boobs too small??" BLUSH.

Those are both good ways of putting it.

This is how almost everything goes.

We have talked about it before, these "rules" and crap are for novices just getting into the Game.

Same thing with taking girls out to dinner.

Alphas can do it.

Novices shouldn't.

[Duke Castile]

This is a good thread because it captures one of the main parts of conversation that builds attraction.

This just happened to me last Saturday.

I was at a bar for a friends bday part which was upstairs, the waitress was a little overworked so I went downstairs to order a beer from that bar. Sitting at the bar were two girls in an intense conversation. One was a flat out 9, gorgeous brown hair with a face that had those pretty petite features and big brown eyes. Unfortunately she also had that entitled bitchy look that you know if you play it right, comes crashing down and into your lap. The other chick was older and not worth mentioning.

I ordered my beer, said a few funny things to the bar tender looked over and smiled and made my way back upstairs.

When I went to get my next beer, they had moved down a few seats and some other people had taken the ones they formerly sat in.

I commented "Did you two get bullied or were you just gracious?"

I hot girl starts bitching about how their seats were taken and I make a comment about how I would have guessed her to be such a pushover. She immediately asks my name (ioi) and what I do. I continue the teasing with compliments, she's laughing, her friend is laughing but this is that point where I am about to win them over. Her friend offers up "You know, you're talking to the next Miss Nevada?"

I could give a fuck about the the title Miss Nevada. My ex that I just told to beat it was Ms Las Vegas. That did give me a little knowledge that I could use though. "Oh yeah? So what's your talant?"

"Um well for this you don't have to have a talant. How do you know that anyway?"

Me: "One of my ex's was Miss Las Vegas, otherwise I'd have never known. And it's good you are cute since you aren't talanted haha."

This was the clencher, from then on she is qualifying herself, hell her FRIEND is qualifying her.

The "complimenting game" may have worked for you in the past, but in my experience that would have never worked on a girl like this because complimenting her outright lowers your value because you become just like every other schlub.

Teasing a girl with ambiguous comments or back handed compliments trumps these chivalrous gestures any day.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-25-2012 01:40 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

This is a good thread because it captures one of the main parts of conversation that builds attraction.

This just happened to me last Saturday.

I was at a bar for a friends bday part which was upstairs, the waitress was a little overworked so I went downstairs to order a beer from that bar. Sitting at the bar were two girls in an intense conversation. One was a flat out 9, gorgeous brown hair with a face that had those pretty petite features and big brown eyes. Unfortunately she also had that entitled bitchy look that you know if you play it right, comes crashing down and into your lap. The other chick was older and not worth mentioning.

I ordered my beer, said a few funny things to the bar tender looked over and smiled and made my way back upstairs.

When I went to get my next beer, they had moved down a few seats and some other people had taken the ones they formerly sat in.

I commented "Did you two get bullied or were you just gracious?"

I hot girl starts bitching about how their seats were taken and I make a comment about how I would have guessed her to be such a pushover. She immediately asks my name (ioi) and what I do. I continue the teasing with compliments, she's laughing, her friend is laughing but this is that point where I am about to win them over. Her friend offers up "You know, you're talking to the next Miss Nevada?"

I could give a fuck about the the title Miss Nevada. My ex that I just told to beat it was Ms Las Vegas. That did give me a little knowledge that I could use though. "Oh yeah? So what's your talant?"

"Um well for this you don't have to have a talant. How do you know that anyway?"

Me: "One of my ex's was Miss Las Vegas, otherwise I'd have never known. And it's good you are cute since you aren't talanted haha."

This was the clencher, from then on she is qualifying herself, hell her FRIEND is qualifying her.

The "complimenting game" may have worked for you in the past, but in my experience that would have never worked on a girl like this because complimenting her outright lowers your value because you become just like every other schlub.

Teasing a girl with ambiguous comments or back handed compliments trumps these chivalrous gestures any day.

Yeah, I agree with this 100%.

This is essentially what I mean by "complimenting".

I am a little old-school, and I often forget about the new-school breakdowns.

This: "One of my ex's was Miss Las Vegas, otherwise I'd have never known. And it's good you are cute since you aren't talanted haha."

Is basically, "Complimenting with Game".

Or what I mean when I say "Complimenting from a position of Strength".

[Screwston]

I only do it when I have the girl naked in my crib. "You look fucking sexy. You better not ride me to hard or I might cum fast baby".

Not a fan of doing it before sex because the internet has really fucked things up. White knights and lame asses think that complimenting a girl over and over and over will get them some ass. Sometimes I say something like "that's a nice shirt. The color looks good with your skin tone". I stopped using the "damn you have some nice lips" or straight up compliments like that a long time ago.

[mofo]

Giving compliments can be good

[Giovonny]

(01-25-2012 01:40 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Teasing a girl with ambiguous comments or back handed compliments trumps these chivalrous gestures any day.

Ha, yes. "chivalrous gestures" are a little outdated in most areas.

Welcome back Fisto.

[xmlenigma]

Approval giving (Like her 'something' but not like you're blown away/desperately impressed..From a place of strength.. Make her work a bit for it.. if she has EARNED it/ True compliment that earned & she enjoyed - Valued)
v/s
Approval Seeking (Compliment to get her to like you - coming from a place neediness / weakness../ A compliment She gets it all the time - Freebie)

the thing in the girls mind is.. did she EARN it or did you just give it TOO EASY..

[Duke Castile]

(01-25-2012 03:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 01:40 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Teasing a girl with ambiguous comments or back handed compliments trumps these chivalrous gestures any day.

Ha, yes. "chivalrous gestures" are a little outdated in most areas.

Welcome back Fisto.

Thanks bud, good to be back!

[thegmanifesto]

Another thing I do alot:

Give a compliment with an over exaggerated tone/intonation or word play where she is not sure if you are giving a compliment or being sarcastic/funny.

This is a very subtle move but it is High Level Game Sh*t.

I use this all the time.

Problem is this is entirely impossible to explain on a forum in written form.

Hopefully you guys know what I mean.

I do this not only with girls but people in general.

[Gmac]

Quote:

Alphas can do it.

Novices shouldn't.

This is pretty much it. You reach a point where you can get away with anything, including compliments. Until then it's important to learn how counter productive compliments generally are for the average man.

[Khaleth]

I usually like to throw out this line on girls I haven't seen in a while as a backhanded compliment;

"I'm glad you didn't let yourself go."