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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?
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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?

Quote: (08-14-2015 12:39 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

It might sound counter intuitive. But living at home can be an absolute financial blessing. All that money you spend on rent can be saved. Say you spend $1,000 on rent in yours 20's per month. (Far from crazy) Thats 120k over 10 years.

I lived away while I was at school and owned a couple condos. (7 years) I live at home now despite having more than enough money to buy a home outright. I have no immediate plan or desire to leave home either.

Literally the difference in renting in yours 20's vs living at home can be remarkable to the point where it can fund a retirement even if you don't do a thing other than bank the difference in rent. If you got 7% returns from 20-65 on that money you saved..you'd end up with about 2.5 million.

For sure that's a nice amount of cash but I'm 19 now and can't really see myself living with my parents for another 10 years. Rather move out on my own, hustling extra hard for extra cash and putting that extra cash to work with investments.
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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?

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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?

I moved out at 18. I did not expect any support from my parents and none was ever offered. They were unsupportive when I was a young child so none of this was a surprise. In retrospect they probably shouldn't have had children, they had neither the personalities or altruistic tendencies to worry about the wellbeing of another human being, let alone children. I will never have children, largely as a reflection on my own childhood.

I met my wife a year later and we've been together for almost 20 years. Things were tough for a long time. The previous post about hustling is spot on. You had to find creative ways to stay afloat at that age. I took some risks that paid off but seem foolish in retrospect. There are definitely people from my past I need to avoid, so mush so that I had to leave the city I grew up in.

Things are very good now, I make significantly more than I need to survive and take 3 vacations a year. I read a lot of people on this forum looking back on their 20's as a time of parties, drinking and socializing. I did not have that experience.
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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?

I jumped off the porch at 15 and have been running ever since...

"I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story." Nas
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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?

At 20, I decided that I wasn't happy with my current life, so I took the jump and left Canada to go live alone in Thailand while not speaking the language and not knowing anybody there.

Today, 3 years later: fluent in Thai, banging girls daily, financially free, and probably going to spend a big chunk of my life there.
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At what age did you become financially independent from your parents?

Here's something I'd like to add from the Early Retirement Extreme blog. My annotations are in red.

Quote:Jacob Lund Fisker Wrote:

What makes ERE work is how things are put together. If we take the 21 Day Makeover (as seen in the lower left sidebar), we start by reducing the amount of stuff we have. The less you own, the less you have to move, store, or maintain. Everything you buy other than food should be extremely durable. So don't go buying stupid shit that you can't afford, or depreciates in value over time.

This is done in order to relocate to a place where 1) We don’t need to pay as much to store things we don’t use anyway; but more importantly 2) We don’t need the same level of transportation. $2000 will buy you a shitty car that might last a couple years, but it will afford an excellent bike that will last decades.

This in turn means we can ditch at least one vehicle and maybe two. It also means we get more free time since less time is spent on commuting. The average commute is 20 minutes by car. That's 175 hours spent in a year just to get to work. This can be used to cook and since we’re closer to the supermarket, we can go with fresher food. This would allow us to ditch the fridge.

Also, knowing what we eat will save on health care costs and medications down the line. This allows for a higher deductible. Since you're saving all this cash, you'll be able to drop 10k for a serious health problem. This goes well with not having the car since we can get around under muscle power thus reducing blood pressure and the chance of a heart attack down the line—destressing too. Bikes improve your health and save you money, the exact opposite of a car.

Having fewer things, there are fewer things that can break and if we dump the TV, we can spend our time learning to maintain and fix them. It pays to be a self taught handy man. We have not reduced our expenditure on consumer durables to almost zero.

As an interesting side-effect we’re suddenly saving tons of money. You should be saving at least 70% of your paychecks, which will allow you to retire in 5 years at this DIY styled standard of living.

This is the complete forest. It works because everything fits together and supports each other. That is what makes it a design rather than a collection.

. . .

The forest is what makes ERE ERE. I’m not saying that everybody should do exactly what I’m doing. If you're pulling in 100k a year, you can obviously afford a higher standard of living if you decide to become financially independent. Jacob lives on ~7k a year. I am, however, saying that the big picture is enormously more important than, say, the specific temperature of one’s shower or how many cents that costs.

You don't have to follow this guy to a T - he's not a player - but if you were to incorporate a couple of the bigger suggestions (like cooking your own meals or biking) then yeah, you should have plenty of paycheck to get by.

An interesting side note, let's say you make $15 an hour and you commute 20 minutes to work. If you want to calculate your "real wage", you simply take what you'd get paid and divide it by all the hours paid and unpaid that revolve around work. You also add any costs that you wouldn't have otherwise, like having to buy work clothes or going out to lunch.

~2000 hours paid work @ $15/hr for a regular 5 day week at 8 hours a day.
~175 hours unpaid commuting time (costs about 5k a year for car maintenance, gas, tires etc)
~260 hours to get ready for work (shower, shave, eat breakfast etc).
$10 lunch every day (-$2600)

($30,000 - (5000 + 2600))/(2000+175+260) = $9.19 / hr

Congratulations, you barely make above minimum wage. Even if you don't account for the hours to get ready for work, you're still only making $10 an hour.

Math saves lives. You could literally be money ahead living in a shitbox apartment, bartending a couple nights a week, working part time at Mcdonalds, and selling beads on Etsy. Hahahaha.

“I have a very simple rule when it comes to management: hire the best people from your competitors, pay them more than they were earning, and give them bonuses and incentives based on their performance. That’s how you build a first-class operation.”
― Donald J. Trump

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