[Saladin]

I'm limiting myself to once a week of porn and jacking off.
I don't have much problems doing it, I've done it quite a few times.

Its really hard to do it when you are not going out though and working on biz though. Especially with Athlone's 10 thread. I was very tempted today.

[BortimusPrime]

I think we're discussing two seperate phenomenae here:

1. Spooging causes a testosterone drain and an oxytocin release that makes you into a pear-shaped sissy if you're giving yourself a hand party every thirty minutes.

2. Staring at naked women is addictive via the dopamine mechanism, and you build up a tolerance for naked women that makes the real life plain janes less appealing, causing Captain Winky to only go up half mast when you take a porker home.

[Docter]

(11-21-2011 01:10 AM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

I think we're discussing two seperate phenomenae here:

1. Spooging causes a testosterone drain and an oxytocin release that makes you into a pear-shaped sissy if you're giving yourself a hand party every thirty minutes.

2. Staring at naked women is addictive via the dopamine mechanism, and you build up a tolerance for naked women that makes the real life plain janes less appealing, causing Captain Winky to only go up half mast when you take a porker home.

This is pretty much it.

A second result of the second thing is that you will be less motivated to hit on women as they appear less attractive.

I was reading a forum, forget the site as I stumbled upon it through google, where people were actively avoiding masturbation for 80+ days. They said they're concept of attractiveness began to morph. I have no idea wtf that means. I assume it means that less attractive women catch your eye, but perhaps it means that attractive women catch your eye (because you are no longer desensitizing yourself to beauty through porn).

I mean, the male brain 'lights up' similarly from cocaine and a beautiful woman. Visually, porn fucks up our head.

[BortimusPrime]

Alright, but I don't think this is a unique response. Anything pleasurable is going to start sucking if you get it too much, and you'll start getting picky and develop an ever-more rarefied taste. It just happens that with porn we're developing a mismatch between what we can get on the interwebs and what we can get at the Old Drinkin' Hole.

[DamonHVictor]

Tonight I combined Social Circle Game + Fuckup Avoidance Game for the first time to kiss-close an 18yo virgin (we were introduced Monday). I genuinely like this chick, but will keep gaming slores to have some freaks on the side while I peel the layers on her.

I'm on day....6, but I feel like I can reward myself for making some progress with this girl. It's definitely a nice feeling though, knowing that I haven't been stroking it. It makes me feel in control and content, which I'm sure manifests in overall bearing/confidence/Inner Game.

[Aenigma]

Personal expirence has shown me that refraining from both masterbation and porn (the latter often leading to the former) turns me into an alpha beast within a week; I fearlessly enter confrontation with other men and show little to no hesitation in approaching. I become smooth during a pickup almost effortlessly as well.

In terms of biochemistry and evolutionary biology this makes perfect sense as well.
The brain of the beta chimpanzee, who has no choice but to beat his own meat, has his brain hormonally primed to be timid in relation to other males, avoid confrontation, and be a harmless non-threatening orbiter around females.

The Alpha's brain on the other hand is being hormonally primed to engage kn confrontation with other males for the leadership position and for mating rights with the females; its primed for aggression and dominance regardless of circumstance.

We like to think of our personalities being unique and seperate from our bodies, the fact is that a great deal of who we are on a given day depends upon the biochemical-behavioral biopathways we've engaged in the preceeding days.

Bottom line- if you engage in beta behavior your body will assume you are one and turn on the beta behavior pathways- prompting you to make acting beta as feeling "natural" and "being yourself". If you don't want the inner game of a beta- then stop[/align] d engaging in beta behavior. When you act like an alpha you body will treat you like one.

[bez]

I didnt touch it for 8 days and on friday night my confidence,awareness,conversation skills were through the roof and i was approaching all over the place,probably could have taken a girl home i think, but my drinking is ruining everything for me....I get too carried away partying.

[Spike]

I didnt spank the monkey for three days and just had a one night stand. I didnt feel any different. I even dare to say my libido drops when i dont wank.

Maybe its all the licorice i've been eating this week which it bad for your dick but damn tasty.

[CJ]

"Idle hands spend time at the genitals, and you know how much God hates that."

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I didn't feel especially different after 6 days of abstinence (although the theory makes sense) and I didn't manage to empty myself into a willing girl, but when I finally waxed the dolphin today the feeling was amazing, much more intense than usual. I'm sticking to this.

[5K2D]

Currently on Day 7, after nearly breaking the streak last night (I had to work late, and almost had to resort to setting up a makeshift punching bag near my desk). I'm definitely more social, and I may be imagining things but I'm 95% certain I'm getting more attention as well (both male and female) without putting in any more conscious effort into my social activities. Thus, I have decided to continue the no-masturbation streak indefinitely.
My longest streak is 18 days, way back in 2009.

[5K2D]

Another reason: motivation. Making a credible commitment that the only way to get off is with another person is providing me with very intense motivation to go out more.

[alecks]

bless me father for i have sinned,its been 11 days since my last wank

and damn proud,i feel kinda different...its strange,im more social too i think,im not horny at all though...i think its hit or miss with abstinence,im hornier when im jacking regularly (im giving up porn though).anyways i regret nothing.i havnt gone on a streak this long in years.think il bash the bishop tonight and see how i get on and il report back

[ManAbout]

(11-27-2011 12:32 PM)CJ Wrote:  

"Idle hands spend time at the genitals, and you know how much God hates that."

It's not about religion AT ALL. I think this is why a lot of people don't want to put down masturbation or try to stop it, for fear of being branded as some religious nut case.

It's not about religion and it's not about morality. It just makes common sense. It's a completely beta thing to do. I think refraining from masturbation is just a natural by product of becoming an alpha/pua.

[DjembaDjemba]

How about beating it right after the lizard has left the building?

[Riker]

Have any of you felt like jacking off more if you're having sex often?

[CJ]

(11-28-2011 06:08 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(11-27-2011 12:32 PM)CJ Wrote:  

"Idle hands spend time at the genitals, and you know how much God hates that."

It's not about religion AT ALL.

Nor was my post. That's a quote from an old Aqua Teen episode lol.

[La Familia]

I go weeks without masturbating, and am a believer that you revert to a primal-like setting where you're constantly on the hunt. Ever tried lifting after masturbating? Those are some of my worst and forgettable lifts, and that's when I stopped the habit. No wacking + good workout + cold shower after = full beard by the end of the day.

[Cr33pin]

i participated in NO FAP NOVEMBER made it to the 24th, i did notice i was way more focused on working out... when i did break down an stroke like the 2nd stroke i shot pre cum that could fill up a milk jug an when i did release i could have filled a barrel.. maybe thats to much info but it is what it is

Also i used to watch porn when i worked out an noticed a substantial diffrence, watching porn releases testosterone an obviosuly testosterone is good for working out

[Cr33pin]

I havent fapped in about a week, i feel more fearless talking to strangers/girls. Not like desperate or anything its like i just dont give a fuck.