[Belantozorius]

Me and my friends were only bouncing to a bar just to see if it was interesting but no... nothing interesting, except this petite chick waiting/sitting at the bar for almost a minute, no one else talking to her. A solid 8.

I noticed her looking at the tv screens glancing at this weird TV commercial with a off-shoot of the Chipmunks being now more Hard-rock / Stoner.

Anyhow, that's how I openned her up: "So how'd you like the new Chipmuncks?"

She glanced back to the TV screen, smiled and told me, not that good! and then we laughed.

"Yeah all stoner and shit"

Anyhow, I don't remember all of the particulars, But the vibe was great, high energy, I had to tell her that my friends were trying to kdnap me to a karaoke.

She then told me she was actually applying for a Waitress at this particular bar. She told me she had worked to the Karaoke bar and to other bar as well.

Anyhow, In less than 5 minutes talk (as soon as I felt that i had nothing left to say) I asked her for her humber and she gladly gave it to me.

While I said see u later, I kino her very subtly on her arm, just let the back of my index do a small touch/caress on her arm (cheesy or good?)

txed her from the karaoke bar tellign her if the chipmunck were still entertaining her, I was at the karaoke having my ears crushed by this guy signing nirvana... she was very amused.

This first meet was high energy, funny.
I tried to ask her what kind of schedule we can meet a barmaid like her. No response.

A week later, I asked her if she got the job. (txts From 8pm to 10:30)

Her; Yes!
Me: Cool! I Knew you'd have it. Are you sure we can see you from the other side of the bar? you're 4 feet tall. A real Chipmunk!
Her: Hahah I'm 5"
Me: I don't believe you. My eyes never falter.. i need to check that out. R U Working tonite?
Her: Sunday Night
Me: Hmmm Beginners Schedule
Her: we'll see
Me: Otherwisde, what do you do on friday nights? Studying Quantum mathematics? (I know she's young... College age, trying to figure out exactly)
Her: I'm far from being a student
Me: For real? Not even in college?
Her: nada
Me:How old are you?
Her: 22
Me: ok.. so what kind of corner of the world can we find you? ON a sofa in a living room watching games of thrones? Or out with the girls getting hit on?
Her; actually I'm with my dogs.
Me: Cool. Do they have good stories to tell? I have a frisbee.. They love that shit
No response
Me:If you don't do much with them, I have my piano here who wants to be listened to other ears than mine. You like music?
No response
If you're lookign for company, I'm about to leave my crib...
No response



At that point I'm not sure if I'm blowing my chances. My last texts were somewhat needy.

However I still wanted to meet her Sunday night. i'm starting my vacation, so why not try to hit on a solid 8 to begin with?


When I Entered the bar I couldn't find her. Only after askign this other waitress if my barmaid was working that nite that I saw her coming back from the washroom. Very smiling, welcomes me with kisses on the cheeks, happy to see me.

Started out very well. She told me that she was falling asleep when my last texts came in.

When buying my first drink, she gave me a 2$ change. I called her out... "You really think I'm going to tip you 2$ right away? You really know the tricks of the trade. but give me my 2 1$ I'll see if you deserve a 2$ tip".
All that with a smirk.

I can feel this is going well. I'm sitting on the stool but laid back, She's leaning in from her side of the counter to listen.

(I saw first hand that this is real. As soon as I leaned in, she moved back.. I realized that I could simply lay back again to draw her in again)

I could see her eyes going diagonaly down when I look deep into her eyes. It's the first time i'm realized I may have some kind of domination over a girl... just by looking in her eyes.

I stayed there maybe 2 hours. Drank 4 Mint creams

There was solid rapport (or comfort?) when she told me about an heritage. The way she's investing it through real estate. (my brother is makign a killing doing flips so I know somewhat in the field)
That she played baseball for 10 years.

I asked her why she was wearing no belt. (her jeans kinda looked lose at her waiste) She told me she ad lost 15 pounds just by stopping drinking.

anyhow... I think there is a lot of rapport and comfort going on.

She yawned a coupel of times. due to tjhe fact that she had not been a waitress for quite some time. (this will be relevant later).

I even took some of her territory when I and another guy wanted to plug our iphones in the PA system as the music was quite boring. So I got My Jack 1/8th to RCA from my car and went behind the counter where the PA system was and plugged the damn wire and played some of my playlist.

When I left she happily went out to give me the two custom kisses on the cheek.


The morning after. I send her a "footage of her shift at the bar captured by the security camera". She was yawning at some point in the night so:




She was very amused.


How should I game this onward? I mean, should I stick to meet her at her bar. Or try to meet when she's walking her dogs? In a more private setting?

Am I trying too hard with the Chipmunk teases? It is a recurring theme since the inception of our meeting so...

[RatInTheWoods]

Ring her up, and ask her for a real date, dinner somewhere.

You get a yes or a no. If its a yes, you are in the running.

[AneroidOcean]

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

Me and my friends were only bouncing to a bar just to see if it was interesting but no... nothing interesting, except this petite chick waiting/sitting at the bar for almost a minute, no one else talking to her. A solid 8.

I noticed her looking at the tv screens glancing at this weird TV commercial with a off-shoot of the Chipmunks being now more Hard-rock / Stoner.

Anyhow, that's how I openned her up: "So how'd you like the new Chipmuncks?"

She glanced back to the TV screen, smiled and told me, not that good! and then we laughed.

"Yeah all stoner and shit"

Anyhow, I don't remember all of the particulars, But the vibe was great, high energy, I had to tell her that my friends were trying to kdnap me to a karaoke.

She then told me she was actually applying for a Waitress at this particular bar. She told me she had worked to the Karaoke bar and to other bar as well.

Anyhow, In less than 5 minutes talk (as soon as I felt that i had nothing left to say) I asked her for her humber and she gladly gave it to me.

You started out strong. We have no way of telling if the touch was interesting to her or not as you should've initiated touching right from the beginning. The good news is she gave you her number, the bad news is the rest of my breakdown:

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

txed her from the karaoke bar tellign her if the chipmunck were still entertaining her, I was at the karaoke having my ears crushed by this guy signing nirvana... she was very amused.

You say "she was very amused" a few times throughout this exchange. I imagine this is an emoji response from her, or a "lol" or a "hahahahaha" which you're interpreting as her thinking you're really funny and being into you. The reality is that it's probably her just placating you with a short non-invested response.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

This first meet was high energy, funny.
I tried to ask her what kind of schedule we can meet a barmaid like her. No response.

Your first meet was high energy and funny. Then you followed it up with texting that was drab/long. This is the beginning of the end of her interest.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

A week later, I asked her if she got the job. (txts From 8pm to 10:30)

Her; Yes!
Me: Cool! I Knew you'd have it. Are you sure we can see you from the other side of the bar? you're 4 feet tall. A real Chipmunk!
Her: Hahah I'm 5"
Me: I don't believe you. My eyes never falter.. i need to check that out. R U Working tonite?
Her: Sunday Night
Me: Hmmm Beginners Schedule
Her: we'll see
Me: Otherwisde, what do you do on friday nights? Studying Quantum mathematics? (I know she's young... College age, trying to figure out exactly)
Her: I'm far from being a student
Me: For real? Not even in college?
Her: nada
Me:How old are you?
Her: 22
Me: ok.. so what kind of corner of the world can we find you? ON a sofa in a living room watching games of thrones? Or out with the girls getting hit on?
Her; actually I'm with my dogs.
Me: Cool. Do they have good stories to tell? I have a frisbee.. They love that shit
No response
Me:If you don't do much with them, I have my piano here who wants to be listened to other ears than mine. You like music?
No response
If you're lookign for company, I'm about to leave my crib...
No response

Here's the numbers (contractions count as 1 word, also excluding apostrophes for contractions):

Her # of words: 22
Your # of words (before she stops responding): 101
Your # of words after she stops responding: 52
Your total # of words: 153

Her # of punctuation marks: 2
Your # of punctuation marks (before she stops responding): 21
Your # of punctuation marks (after she stops responding): 5
Your total # of punctuation marks: 26

Verdict: You need to read the "What Should I Text Next?" thread in it's entirety as well as find some of the other excellent text guides on here and study them all to hell. Until then keep your texting to a very minimum and call to set up dates. Your text calibration is severely lacking. The good thing is this means you can improve by leaps and bounds.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

At that point I'm not sure if I'm blowing my chances. My last texts were somewhat needy.

Your last texts were extremely needy. I wouldn't even want to hang out with a male acquaintance who texts me this way. You threw sand directly at her vagina.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

However I still wanted to meet her Sunday night. i'm starting my vacation, so why not try to hit on a solid 8 to begin with?

Perseverance can be a good trait when tempered with reason.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

When I Entered the bar I couldn't find her. Only after askign this other waitress if my barmaid was working that nite that I saw her coming back from the washroom. Very smiling, welcomes me with kisses on the cheeks, happy to see me.

Started out very well. She told me that she was falling asleep when my last texts came in.

You should've acted aloof and teased/flirted with her lightly and then left suddenly or flirted with other girls and shot the shit with other guys in the place, but then not stayed too long. Sounds like in your area it's customary to greet people you know with two kisses. It's her job to be smiley/friendly to customers, especially since she just started out, she can't afford to lose customers for the bar. This is neutral based on context.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

When buying my first drink, she gave me a 2$ change. I called her out... "You really think I'm going to tip you 2$ right away? You really know the tricks of the trade. but give me my 2 1$ I'll see if you deserve a 2$ tip".
All that with a smirk.

Try hard. It would've worked better to not tip and then tip the 2 on the next drink or at the end. Or just asked her for change.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

I can feel this is going well. I'm sitting on the stool but laid back, She's leaning in from her side of the counter to listen.

(I saw first hand that this is real. As soon as I leaned in, she moved back.. I realized that I could simply lay back again to draw her in again)

This is simple barmaid dynamics, they will lean into you if you're away and if they don't want you in their space will lean back if you lean forward. This means she doesn't really want you in her space.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

I could see her eyes going diagonaly down when I look deep into her eyes. It's the first time i'm realized I may have some kind of domination over a girl... just by looking in her eyes.

You want her to feel dominated in a way that makes her panties wet, not in a "why does this guy continue to stare at me?

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

I stayed there maybe 2 hours. Drank 4 Mint creams

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

There was solid rapport (or comfort?) when she told me about an heritage. The way she's investing it through real estate. (my brother is makign a killing doing flips so I know somewhat in the field)
That she played baseball for 10 years.

None of this is deep secret stuff that creates any connection between you or gives you any real insight to her. She's not opening up talking about these things.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

I asked her why she was wearing no belt. (her jeans kinda looked lose at her waiste) She told me she ad lost 15 pounds just by stopping drinking.

anyhow... I think there is a lot of rapport and comfort going on.

She yawned a coupel of times. due to tjhe fact that she had not been a waitress for quite some time. (this will be relevant later).

I even took some of her territory when I and another guy wanted to plug our iphones in the PA system as the music was quite boring. So I got My Jack 1/8th to RCA from my car and went behind the counter where the PA system was and plugged the damn wire and played some of my playlist.

When I left she happily went out to give me the two custom kisses on the cheek.

Again, if she wasn't lingering, if she wasn't pulling you in tight for a hug or something beyond the standard greeting, if she wasn't saying she wanted to hang out with you, if you didn't get her excited to join you in some cool activity, then this is a loss. You spent 2 hours at a bar hanging out with the bartender. She loves customers like you! You also drank Mint Creams which you can drink whatever you want, but that's a pretty girly sounding drink there bud.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

The morning after. I send her a "footage of her shift at the bar captured by the security camera". She was yawning at some point in the night so:




She was very amused.

You're close to or fully in orbiter territory texting her unprompted in the morning about her shift the night before. If all she did was laugh and not initiate further conversation you're pretty much dead in the water.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

How should I game this onward? I mean, should I stick to meet her at her bar. Or try to meet when she's walking her dogs? In a more private setting?

Forget about her unless she expresses interest in spending time with you outside the bar. I'd probably avoid the bar for a while, hit on other chicks, if you happen to manage to bang a coworker of hers at the bar or happen to be dating a hot girl who you end up at her bar with by chance (don't go in for the purpose of stalking her) that's about the only way to bang her.

(08-14-2016 11:52 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  

Am I trying too hard with the Chipmunk teases? It is a recurring theme since the inception of our meeting so...

Yes, trying way too hard.