[lonewolf1992]

(05-02-2019 11:25 AM)travolta Wrote:  

I still disagree with avoiding direct answers all the time. A little bit here and there is great, as it can add a sense of mystery and humor to the situation, but newbies need to be very careful with doing this. Years back David DeAngelo once recommended "never give a direct answer unless it's no" (lols) and I took this advice pretty serious. I didn't give any direct answers, and I came across extremely weird. There have also been many times when a girl asked me "what do you do?" and I avoided her answer with an indirect answer.. many times girls will get frustrated with you and walk off. I remember this one girl legitimately got upset that I wouldn't answer her. She walked away from me pissed off asking why I wouldn't just answer her. She was genuinely curious. This was a girl in the US..

However, I do think avoiding direct answers can work well if you have "advanced" game and really have your act together. It's definitely a fine line though, and is easy to come across as being weird as fuck if you don't pull it off properly.

Just like everything in life and game. Moderation. The girls I've attracted for being an asshole and being aloof are girls you would not imagine. The opportunities I've lost for being too asshole make me want to bang my head against the wall. It's called 'game' for a reason.

[LatinoHeat]

This is possibly good advice for people in some countries/cultures but in Latam and Mexico specifically i'm not so sure, people in general are so flaky even girls complain about it.

Plus girls here have a kind of cultural thing where they'll refuse to text a guy first so you'll lose a lot of leads in this manner.

I always ping girls back every once in a while even if they don't show a lot of interest, guess what, the hottest chicks won't since they have plenty of options, the hottest ones are getting hit up multiple times a day by multiple dudes, so hoping she's gonna text u back, I dunno if thats very smart, you wanna stay at the top of their queue, especially these days, times have changed.

I'm sure some 5-6's that I was on the fence about have managed to nail me that way too where I totally forgot about them but they just hit me up at the right time. I just don't see what you have to gain by not texting back, that you not texting will raise her interest??? I dunno more likely it will just make her forget about you.

I've gotten laid plenty of times this way with girls responding with 1-2 word texts typically showing little interest, just an occasional" hey" on whatsapp or commenting on her photo and eventually catch her at just the right time, and boom easy sex with a HB7 or sometimes even higher. Typically hot girls respond to just about everyone with aloofness, I wouldn't count them out. Even if your hit ratio is low if you keep 30-40 hot girls in some kind of occasional once a month ping, regardless of their interest, sooner or later, you'll bag some really hot chicks, at least thats been my experience. OK your ego is taking a little boo-boo bruise that most aren't responding, then flaking on plans, grow some nuts, its a numbers game.

Honestly maybe its my experience in business in email marketing that made me realize a large amount of weak leads is still better then a very small amount of hot leads. In that world we have something called "funnels" where they get different types of emails depending on their interest. So basically put the same strategy with girls, if a girl is not being very responsive I just move her down to the "low interest" funnel which is just an occasional ping text, with a large enough "list" eventually you'll get some freebies.

Only if a girls don't respond twice or even three times to re-engagement texts do I remove them completely.

If you only wanna talk to chicks that are showing a lot of interest you'll be stuck in the 6 or below range.

I think moderation here is key, don't be that guy who texts so much, but if you're intentionally waiting hours to text back or even days just to show how little you care, you probably don't have as many options as I do anyways where i'm not even thinking about this kind of thing.

This whole thing has a YMMV disclaimer that I think this varies a lot country by country but in Latin America you have to nag and push really hard, text a lot, its just the way it is here. I do thing I would never do back in the US like confirming dates 2 even 3 times.

Then again, I just can't find a justification regardless of culture to not respond to a girls text in any country, esp above a 7. A hot girl texting you first means she is red hot interested if she is initiating she's probably trying to meet up derp derp, so you're ignore the text??? I mean ok maybe that raises her interest more slightly, but most likely she is just gonna find another dude to kick it with that night instead then and think "wow that guys an idiot for passing this up" (probably true) and forget about you. Better way to keep her interest is to respond to the text, meet up quickly and fuck her silly, that will keep her hooked more then any games and also get you laid.

Anyways I respect OPs point of view, may try it in SE asia or some other places but probably not here in Mexico.

Not surprised David Deangelo got brought up on this thread, because the OPs advice is exactly the type of thing he would suggest, but 1990s advice does not translate to 2019 success. With girls current attention span being that of a goldfish they need frequent reminders and invitations to meetup (in my mind any time a girl texts u first its invitation to meet) from girls above a 7 are typically a now or never type thing.

[dreadcom]

(05-03-2019 05:36 PM)LatinoHeat Wrote:  

This is possibly good advice for people in some countries/cultures but in Latam and Mexico specifically i'm not so sure, people in general are so flaky even girls complain about it.

Plus girls here have a kind of cultural thing where they'll refuse to text a guy first so you'll lose a lot of leads in this manner.

I always ping girls back every once in a while even if they don't show a lot of interest, guess what, the hottest chicks won't since they have plenty of options, the hottest ones are getting hit up multiple times a day by multiple dudes, so hoping she's gonna text u back, I dunno if thats very smart, you wanna stay at the top of their queue, especially these days, times have changed.

I'm sure some 5-6's that I was on the fence about have managed to nail me that way too where I totally forgot about them but they just hit me up at the right time. I just don't see what you have to gain by not texting back, that you not texting will raise her interest??? I dunno more likely it will just make her forget about you.

I've gotten laid plenty of times this way with girls responding with 1-2 word texts typically showing little interest, just an occasional" hey" on whatsapp or commenting on her photo and eventually catch her at just the right time, and boom easy sex with a HB7 or sometimes even higher. Typically hot girls respond to just about everyone with aloofness, I wouldn't count them out. Even if your hit ratio is low if you keep 30-40 hot girls in some kind of occasional once a month ping, regardless of their interest, sooner or later, you'll bag some really hot chicks, at least thats been my experience. OK your ego is taking a little boo-boo bruise that most aren't responding, then flaking on plans, grow some nuts, its a numbers game.

Honestly maybe its my experience in business in email marketing that made me realize a large amount of weak leads is still better then a very small amount of hot leads. In that world we have something called "funnels" where they get different types of emails depending on their interest. So basically put the same strategy with girls, if a girl is not being very responsive I just move her down to the "low interest" funnel which is just an occasional ping text, with a large enough "list" eventually you'll get some freebies.

Only if a girls don't respond twice or even three times to re-engagement texts do I remove them completely.

If you only wanna talk to chicks that are showing a lot of interest you'll be stuck in the 6 or below range.

I think moderation here is key, don't be that guy who texts so much, but if you're intentionally waiting hours to text back or even days just to show how little you care, you probably don't have as many options as I do anyways where i'm not even thinking about this kind of thing.

This whole thing has a YMMV disclaimer that I think this varies a lot country by country but in Latin America you have to nag and push really hard, text a lot, its just the way it is here. I do thing I would never do back in the US like confirming dates 2 even 3 times.

Then again, I just can't find a justification regardless of culture to not respond to a girls text in any country, esp above a 7. A hot girl texting you first means she is red hot interested if she is initiating she's probably trying to meet up derp derp, so you're ignore the text??? I mean ok maybe that raises her interest more slightly, but most likely she is just gonna find another dude to kick it with that night instead then and think "wow that guys an idiot for passing this up" (probably true) and forget about you. Better way to keep her interest is to respond to the text, meet up quickly and fuck her silly, that will keep her hooked more then any games and also get you laid.

Anyways I respect OPs point of view, may try it in SE asia or some other places but probably not here in Mexico.

Not surprised David Deangelo got brought up on this thread, because this is exactly the type of advice he would give, but 1990s advice does not translate to 2010s success.

I respect your perspective but pretty much disagree completely with this approach.

In my experience, even 7s and up who have legit interest will text properly and NOT do one word answers and things like that.

You seem to think that the girls doing this to you are doing it because they are hot and have a lot of options.

the reality is that they are doing that because they have low to no interest in YOU.

That same girl i guarantee has a guy who she texts first and actively pursues.

My approach now is to find the girls who have high interest only.

It's more efficient to find more high interest girls then trying to convert low interest girls.

I've literally never in my life fucked a girl who showed any sign of low interest at the start. Never not once.

Every girl I've fucked was texting me actively and replying to my texts quickly right away from the start.

[HD668B]

+1 for OP

Someone should write a book about No-Answer-Game, where the chick literally escalates herself.

Exhibit A from my personal collection (notice the timeline):

[spydersuit]

I fucked a few low interest girls. The sex was awful. Not worth the effort. I agree high interest girls are good to focus on.