[Fortis]

I would never call myself an expert but thanks for the kind words, D!

I remember you've spent a lot of time in Europe chasing the coveted Russian girls and you were even forced to admit that Chinese girls have really stepped things up since you were gone.

[Dalaran1991]

(03-20-2019 05:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

If you work on your lats, Dalaran, you can rock that wife beater look too.

Muh DJ Strikeback telling me to just git gud like MLK telling niggas if you wanna have a dream like mine just go to sleep. Like rich white people telling niggas if you want money just go to work

Lord be my witness but I'm already tread the gym like I'm paid to live there. Going to gym like good old Muslims going to prayer; but dem lats just don't grow. Working on cable row and pull down so hard homies thought my life depended on it. If a day has 48h then I'd spend 40H in the iron church but one can only spare so much time.

[a beer is enough]

I have mentioned in other threads but I will mention it here too, Asian dudes are starting to slay in NYC. Seeing a sexy brunette (likely Jewish or Slavic) with an Asian guy is slowly starting to become normal and the well put together Asian dudes have their pick of top tier Asian women. Just a week ago when out I saw a sexy Indian girl (Bollywood quality) making out with a jacked Asian guy, weirdest shit ever but that's how well Asian men are starting to do here. It also has to do with the fact that Asians occupier the wealthier parts of the city alongside whites so maybe there is a gold digging factor involved.

Decades back Asian dudes might have struggled or been at the bottom of some sexual hierarchy but these days, I think brown guys occupy that position. I do see Indian men doing well enough in NYC though (still not as good as Asian guys), likely for the same reasons as Asian guys and because of the perception wealthier people in the city have. Arab and Middle Eastern dudes, unless they look white, seem to have it the worst though. In talking to women and some guys ingrained in the nightlife in the city, these dudes seem to get the worst reputation unless they are filthy rich.

The only types of guys I observe doing better than Asian guys are white guys and cool black guys.

[jcrew247]

Does anyone have any experience travling to Phuket or Koh PHi PHi island? Heard there were a lot of western tourists there and I wonder if those white girls ever hook up with asian-american tourists? I've seen some aussie girls with kuta cowboys in bali, so those indonesian guys seem to have success but it seems like the Thia and Chinese guys have less success with white tourists in Thailand.

[AsiaBaller]

(03-12-2019 09:07 AM)jcrew247 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 02:08 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

If you're swole, confident and learn the language and culture, chances are you'll do well in the Ukraine.

Some Russians and Ukrainians have a lot of mixed blood with north east Asians and for every linebacker frame girl there is a petite one with a small frame as well.

Overcoming cultural barriers in an LTR is tough for anyone, as well as always being regarded as a racial and cultural outsider.

Yeah, the part of Russia near Korea seems to have a lot of Korean-blooded Russians that look very Korean as opposed to white Russian. It wouldn't surprise me if there weren't very many white people in that part of the world. It would be funny if Russian-Asians became a big thing.

(03-30-2019 08:19 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:  

Does anyone have any experience travling to Phuket or Koh PHi PHi island? Heard there were a lot of western tourists there and I wonder if those white girls ever hook up with asian-american tourists? I've seen some aussie girls with kuta cowboys in bali, so those indonesian guys seem to have success but it seems like the Thia and Chinese guys have less success with white tourists in Thailand.

Thai and Chinese guys are first and foremost about their family and they'll get a wife via an arranged marriage. Why would they chase women that are largely ugly to them and culturally incompatible?

The only interest the kuta cowboys have in women is a predatory one. South East Asians generally view first world people as human ATMs ripe for the picking.

Their value to women is: Being local and living the easy life at the beach.

They get the women by approaching them in non threatening ways on the beach.

If you try to compete with them as a foreigner of any kind I don't see that ending so well though as south east asians generally have a reputation for being quick to murder people that mess with their limited sources of income.

[Hypno]

Just curious, what negative stereotypes of Asian men exist in the U.S. that don't exist in Europe?

Also, why do Asians self-identify as Asian, rather than Chinese, Japnese, Thai, etc.? I've asked a few Asian women for more specifics and it triggered them.

Europeans infrequently refer to themselves by their continent as infrequently refer to themselves by their country.

[AsiaBaller]

(03-31-2019 11:16 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

Just curious, what negative stereotypes of Asian men exist in the U.S. that don't exist in Europe?

Asians are generally very rare in Europe so there are very little pre conceived notions about Asians, but generally I would say negative stereotypes in the US are easily broken if you don't conform to it. If you become a swole easygoing guy and move somewhere where you were not boxed in as a nerdy beta the problem is easily solved.

Asians in the US are predominantly southern chinese and southern chinese women are generally very evil and cunning.

They gaslight Asian guys into thinking that nobody else wants them and their only way in life is being their personal beta slave while they dick around with chads from all races. Southern Chinese are extremely matriarchal with the emotionally abusive tiger women ruling with an iron fist, hence the low self esteem and beta behavior of many southern Chinese guys.

As a white guy it took me a long time to understand that this is the real cause of the Asian beta stereotype, as northern Chinese are much more normal.

[waughcraft]

(03-31-2019 11:28 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 11:16 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

Just curious, what negative stereotypes of Asian men exist in the U.S. that don't exist in Europe?

Asians are generally very rare in Europe so there are very little pre conceived notions about Asians, but generally I would say negative stereotypes in the US are easily broken if you don't conform to it. If you become a swole easygoing guy and move somewhere where you were not boxed in as a nerdy beta the problem is easily solved.

Asians in the US are predominantly southern chinese and southern chinese women are generally very evil and cunning.

They gaslight Asian guys into thinking that nobody else wants them and their only way in life is being their personal beta slave while they dick around with chads from all races. Southern Chinese are extremely matriarchal with the emotionally abusive tiger women ruling with an iron fist, hence the low self esteem and beta behavior of many southern Chinese guys.

As a white guy it took me a long time to understand that this is the real cause of the Asian beta stereotype, as northern Chinese are much more normal.

Something to add is that Northern Chinese people are usually more individualistic than Southern Chinese people

[waughcraft]

By the way, I was just in Vienna for a few days recently to do some approaches and do some sightseeing.

I did some daytime and some nighttime approaches, but (white) Austrian girls seem not to be responsive to me. In a nightclub, I did initially hook up with 2 Austrian girls, but as soon as the taller white dudes arrive, the 2 Austrian girls eventually turned into them. Seems nightgame in Vienna are more about SMV (looks + body shape) than actual game.

I did the same daytime approaches to Eastern European immigrant women in Vienna and they were much more receptive. Had a date each with 2 separate girls (one HB7 and another HB8).

I was wondering any Asian guy has similar/different experience in Vienna or Austria?

I'm a 5"11' East Asian guy with 6.5 to 7.5 out of 10 in looks. My sticking point is that I'm rather skinny (I do go to the gym, but other areas in my life makes me stressed hence hard to gain weight)

[thedonald]

From Personal Experience the UK is an absolute No No for Asian guys.

You do see AMWF couples, but they are generally through social circle, being there for a long time and general luck.

I've never witnessed any Asian guys gaming the club cold approaching or anything like that. Asian guys in the UK work through social circles.

I see lots of replies here saying being a swole guy bla bla bla, and obviously that's true in any case, but the biggest hurdle for Asian men scoring white girls is getting his foot in the door.

Eastern European white girls will give you that chance to approach them without fear of being publicly shammed or attacked.
So your number one place should be eastern Europe.

As for white girls in Asia, that is a whole other topic. You will generally have a difficult time in places like Phuket where the people are there not because of the love of the country and Asian culture, but rather a warmer replica to get drunk in.

If you want white girls in Asia, I would guess China or Korea, but I'm not really an expert on that as I've asked that question myself.

[AsiaBaller]

(03-31-2019 08:49 PM)thedonald Wrote:  

From Personal Experience the UK is an absolute No No for Asian guys.

I'm a white European and I'd never go to the UK for what it's worth. Full of rude, trashy, hyper aggressive people that have a bad rep all over the world and I don't have interest in pursuing top 10% income careers just so I can live around higher income people that perhaps act more normal.

It used to be a good place to make money for the Chinese diaspora but now that's not even a thing anymore, so why go there?

[worldtraveler3]

I have seen Asian guys in Brazil and Peru.

One thing I can tell you is that they are not beta at all.

[waughcraft]

thedonald Wrote:  

I'm a white European and I'd never go to the UK for what it's worth. Full of rude, trashy, hyper aggressive people that have a bad rep all over the world and I don't have interest in pursuing top 10% income careers just so I can live around higher income people that perhaps act more normal.

It used to be a good place to make money for the Chinese diaspora but now that's not even a thing anymore, so why go there?

I agree with your first part - it's an English superiority phenomenon,

but I disagree with your second part about lack of opportunities for making money for Chinese diaspora - perhaps I went to a respectable university (not to brag myself), but given I do have a corporate career in Central London - I do see a disproportionate number of British Chinese and overseas Chinese taking up good jobs in the City of London or Canary Wharf considering it only makes up 1.2% to 1.5% of UK's population (2011 census). Why? I guess it's because East Asians are respected for their career skills and work ethics, even though East Asian men are the least desirable in the UK.

Furthermore, Chinese investments have only started to pour in as a result of the Belt and Road initiative started by the Chinese government (see the Hinkley nuclear power plant partly built using Chinese and French money). So my take is you'll see more jobs that require Mandarin skills in the future.

In creative industries; however, East Asian men, along with Indian guys, are under-represented, whereas Black British male actors are over-represented, making them look cool in UK's pop culture (hence I think why white UK girls like black guys in general)

[jcrew247]

Yeah it seems like black guys do well in the UK. Is Baby Spice married to a black guy?

[thedarkknight]

(04-01-2019 01:24 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:  

Yeah it seems like black guys do well in the UK. Is Baby Spice married to a black guy?

Yeah i see quite a few black guys with decent white chicks.

I think the whole rotherham/child grooming thing seriously fucked up the game for South Asians/muslims. I also struggle to think of a muslim who has the appeal of a lewis hamilton, Anthony Joshua, Idris Elba or Stormzy etc etc

TDK

[Stiffmeister]

(03-31-2019 08:09 PM)waughcraft Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 11:28 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 11:16 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

Just curious, what negative stereotypes of Asian men exist in the U.S. that don't exist in Europe?

Asians are generally very rare in Europe so there are very little pre conceived notions about Asians, but generally I would say negative stereotypes in the US are easily broken if you don't conform to it. If you become a swole easygoing guy and move somewhere where you were not boxed in as a nerdy beta the problem is easily solved.

Asians in the US are predominantly southern chinese and southern chinese women are generally very evil and cunning.

They gaslight Asian guys into thinking that nobody else wants them and their only way in life is being their personal beta slave while they dick around with chads from all races. Southern Chinese are extremely matriarchal with the emotionally abusive tiger women ruling with an iron fist, hence the low self esteem and beta behavior of many southern Chinese guys.

As a white guy it took me a long time to understand that this is the real cause of the Asian beta stereotype, as northern Chinese are much more normal.

Something to add is that Northern Chinese people are usually more individualistic than Southern Chinese people

Based on my observation, Northern Chinese women can be just as cunning, if not more, than their Southern counterpart. I'd argue that Northern Chinese women can easily be deadlier because they're generally very good at hiding their true intentions.

[Joeno]

any native darker skinned country is heaven for Asians. Middle East. Africa. South America. SEA.

[JekyllAndHyde]

Me and an RVFer go explore this club one night just a little out of the main area.
Awww shhiiieeeettttt dayum I didn't expect the club to be full of black people having a real good time compared to many other places.

Let's all grind on some big booty!

(03-28-2019 05:48 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 05:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

If you work on your lats, Dalaran, you can rock that wife beater look too.

Muh DJ Strikeback telling me to just git gud like MLK telling niggas if you wanna have a dream like mine just go to sleep. Like rich white people telling niggas if you want money just go to work

Lord be my witness but I'm already tread the gym like I'm paid to live there. Going to gym like good old Muslims going to prayer; but dem lats just don't grow. Working on cable row and pull down so hard homies thought my life depended on it. If a day has 48h then I'd spend 40H in the iron church but one can only spare so much time.

(03-30-2019 08:19 PM)jcrew247 Wrote:  

Does anyone have any experience travling to Phuket or Koh PHi PHi island? Heard there were a lot of western tourists there and I wonder if those white girls ever hook up with asian-american tourists? I've seen some aussie girls with kuta cowboys in bali, so those indonesian guys seem to have success but it seems like the Thia and Chinese guys have less success with white tourists in Thailand.

Sure you can try the islands.

Walk right over to a girl, "Whoa hello", have a quick chat then make out with a girl within a few minutes.
First I had to wrestle the girl off a dude who attempted to swoop only for her mixed group of friends to take her back.

And then rinse and repeat with girls who come in big groups of girls or mixed groups.

If she is good looking expect no less than several dudes a night to approach her and they become deluded very quickly if you run into them again.

9 days is way too long for one island outside of main events. Welcome to the jungle:

(03-31-2019 02:06 PM)LatinoHeat Wrote:  

...

I don't mind some tough competition if the reward is great, but it makes zero sense for me to compete over some 22 year old 15 pound overweight British chick girl shotgunning beer at some blacklight party on the beach

...

the dudes in the town were THIRSTY AS FUCK, she was getting pestered constanty. It was no suprise as it looked like the town was 70% dudes, typically of a surf town. Its always like that in beach towns, its not worth the competition even if you do fit the bill.

Going to beach, my personal policy I always bring my own bitch, always.

[Padrino]

(04-01-2019 12:34 PM)waughcraft Wrote:  

In creative industries; however, East Asian men, along with Indian guys, are under-represented, whereas Black British male actors are over-represented, making them look cool in UK's pop culture (hence I think why white UK girls like black guys in general)

I think there are also quite a few black British athletes and sports celebrities. Asians to me seem to not be visible in the British pop culture. I vision them stereo-typically as corner shop owners or restaurant workers or something similar, whether they'd be from the subcontinent or Far East.

[JWLZG]

(03-31-2019 11:16 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

Also, why do Asians self-identify as Asian, rather than Chinese, Japnese, Thai, etc.? I've asked a few Asian women for more specifics and it triggered them.

Europeans infrequently refer to themselves by their continent as infrequently refer to themselves by their country.

Probably a bit of a defensive reaction on my part, but don't you think that's a huge generalisation?

At least where I'm from, that mostly isn't the case. I myself definitely identify as Australian first an foremost. Living in Europe now, that's how I introduce myself, without any qualifier as to my race or background. I simply see myself as an Australian (the following being unsaid) who just so happens to have "Asian" background (which I don't actually).

The corollary: that is even less so the case in Asia proper. You're not going to win any brownie points by bringing this up with the locals, let alone telling a Korean that he's the same race as a Japanese etc.

[Joeno]

(04-08-2019 04:54 PM)JWLZG Wrote:  

Probably a bit of a defensive reaction on my part, but don't you think that's a huge generalisation?

At least where I'm from, that mostly isn't the case. I myself definitely identify as Australian first an foremost. Living in Europe now, that's how I introduce myself, without any qualifier as to my race or background. I simply see myself as an Australian (the following being unsaid) who just so happens to have "Asian" background (which I don't actually).

The corollary: that is even less so the case in Asia proper. You're not going to win any brownie points by bringing this up with the locals, let alone telling a Korean that he's the same race as a Japanese etc.

^ this is NOT how you want to live your life lol.

In a lot of parts of Australia (not all) there is heavy bias against Asians esp in dating. This guy's advice: just pretend you're not Asian and be as "Australian" as you can - because Australians have done so much for their Asian constituents. And he carries this mentality over to other countries as well like a chump. I.e. assimilate completely and do the exact opposite of what Blacks, ME, Europeans do across the world, which is be proud of their heritage.

Forgive me for being presumptious, but i think this guy is the type of guy to have many "Aussie" friends who go around calling Asians ching chong and then excuse it between themselves by saying "Hey we're friends with JWLZG and he's ASIAN so it's ok!". But let's not call him a tool because in his mind he's true blue AUSSSIEEEEE.

[StrikeBack]

(03-28-2019 05:48 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(03-20-2019 05:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

If you work on your lats, Dalaran, you can rock that wife beater look too.

Muh DJ Strikeback telling me to just git gud like MLK telling niggas if you wanna have a dream like mine just go to sleep. Like rich white people telling niggas if you want money just go to work

Lord be my witness but I'm already tread the gym like I'm paid to live there. Going to gym like good old Muslims going to prayer; but dem lats just don't grow. Working on cable row and pull down so hard homies thought my life depended on it. If a day has 48h then I'd spend 40H in the iron church but one can only spare so much time.

Glad I forgot to add "grow a big beard" then...