[WesternCancer]

So last night go to the club. On my way to the bus I pass a girl i met recently, we chat I tell her to come to the club. She gets to the bus 10 mins later after getting ready I'm pretty drunk at this point so useless banter is easy, number close before getting off the bus. Get in the club, we buy eachother shots and dance all night. She wouldn't kiss me on the dancefloor, but is showing a lot of interest. "can I use your bathroom" gets me into her place I explore then make my move. We makeout I try to escalate, legs snap shut. I try a few more times and we're in our underwear dry humping. Just as I reach towards her panties she tells me she can't do this and that she doesn't know me etc. She also told me she never does things like this etc. I eventually give up to try again in the morning.

I have 2 questions:
1. What do you say when a girl tells you she doesn't know you/she can't do it etc.

2. How much is too much is too much when it comes to persistence?

[gringochileno]

1. Tell her you agree and you understand but don't stop doing what you're doing. If she resists a move, put some space between her and yourself and gradually build back up until you get to the move she resisted you on, then see if you can barrel through this time. Never, ever, ever try to argue with her, always agree. There are other tricks like freeze-outs and what-have-you but the most consistently successful technique is brute-force "Aggro Game."

2. When it stops being consensual. I'm perfectly willing to put hours into a chick once I get her in a bedroom because that's your best chance to get the notch--you never know if she'll change your mind about you later. In practice I'll stop if I sense that a girl's getting seriously pissed off or I feel like I'm going backwards instead of forwards, but even then my game plan is to take a nap and try to bang again when we wake up.