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01-08-2019, 07:17 PM
I started the New Year at my job with news of a new boss, a former peer who many around were shocked to hear she got a promotion to management. I can remember only one other time in my career I honestly felt my direct manager was a complete idiot who was a liability to my income.
Has anyone else had this scenario arise, and how did you handle it?
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01-08-2019, 11:10 PM
Honestly, adapt or move on. Not trying to be a dick but these are really the only options you have, but you can get creative with how you adapt
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01-08-2019, 11:35 PM
It usually sucks to be directly under a female within a corporate/large-scale environment. It has gone well a couple of times in my life but almost always goes badly. There is a reason why even females usually prefer to have male bosses. That reason is office politics, which is made more chaotic by gossip and unaccountability.
Best thing to do is keep your head down and make yourself invisible and forgettable as much as possible. The longer you can go without them remembering your name or thinking about you, the better. While you do this, always be looking for your next job (you should be doing this anyway regardless of who your boss is) so that you are ready to transition smoothly into something else if you should lose the game of office politics and/or she, for any or no reason, decides that it's your turn to be sabotaged.
If she does attempt to sabotage you, I recommend going over her head and report the situation to the higher ups, and seek resolution from an outside party so that your professional reputation is not damaged.
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01-08-2019, 11:47 PM
Hey Lunchmoney: I have experienced what you describe a couple of times in my career (and I suspect most people have had a similar experience as it is not uncommon for incompetent coworkers to be promoted based on longevity or nepotism or some criterion other than merit).
In the first instance, it was early in my career, my numbers were good but not fantastic, and I did not have any sort of stature or political capital in the organization. I started looking for a new job. In the meanwhile, some of my more senior colleagues who reported to the same woman aired their grievances publicly and privately to whomever would listen. She was removed from the managerial position a few months later -- problem solved.
In the second instance, several years later and at a different organization, I did what SOMBRO suggests above. Some arrogant dimwit became the head of my group. I had a great relationship with my boss's boss and when asked, I gave my honest evaluation. This individual had also annoyed a couple of key clients, so they were shuffled around the organization and eventually terminated. If you are in this particular situation, you might want to spend a few days to consider whether to approach your "boss's boss" before they solicit your input or to wait for them to ask your opinion. If you don't have the ability to approach or influence those in upper management, you might just need to put up with the BS for a bit and just focus on performing at the highest level possible (and perhaps look for a new job as well).
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01-09-2019, 03:46 AM
I think there are 3 ways to solve every problem
- Accept the problem and live with it
- Try to solve the problem
- Walk out
In my experience people never change. Its pointless. Either accept the problem, or walk out.
Its a cliche and may not be very helpful in your situation, but I think financial independence/self-employment is the only permanent solution from such situations.
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01-09-2019, 06:00 AM
Thanks for the advice thus far. Some additional data points:
This is a large corporation, and I believe there is a push to promote women from the top. I'm not sexist in any way, and if she was qualified I dont think I would have a problem working for one. That said, She isn't.
I will obviously see how this plays out, however to everyone's point, I won't do anything that will rock the boat immediately, and will keep my eye out for new opportunities, with the long term goal of being financially independent/self-employed by 2021.
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01-10-2019, 01:25 AM
1) What industry is this?
2) Do you have a skip-level manager (manager of your manager so 2 levels above you) who is qualified, or is every single person at the company complete dickheads like where I work?
3) In any case, read
this and apply as best as you can
“Our great danger is not that we aim too high and fail, but that we aim too low and succeed.” ― Rollo Tomassi
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01-10-2019, 05:42 AM
It's always tough to report to and be subservient to someone you considered your peer, especially if you don't think very highly of that person (and a woman to boot!)
Were you expecting to be the one promoted and given a management position?
There's no easy answer - stick with it and take care of yourself until you find a better job, opportunity on a different team etc. Keep networking, be supportive of your new superior but not at the expense of your own goals, recognition etc.
If it works out and you can make money and advance without the situation becoming unbearable, that's fine, but you should already be testing the waters with other employers or managers on other teams.