[Easy_C]

To a point.

The situation is harder to predict when you have areas that are "rural outposts" that serve as hubs for surrounding farmland. Cities like Dodge City Kansas, Ottumwa Iowa, and La Junta Colorado are examples of the type of place I'm thinking of. Those areas are probably ripe for the best outcome because they have a basic level of infrastructure in place combined with access to farm and natural resources.

[Oberrheiner]

(03-10-2019 08:02 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

It's not too difficult to make alcohol/ethanol which can be used as fuel for vehicles (if properly setup), heat, drinking obviously and trading for other supplies.

Have you tried it ?

[Sidney Crosby]

(03-11-2019 01:58 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 08:02 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

It's not too difficult to make alcohol/ethanol which can be used as fuel for vehicles (if properly setup), heat, drinking obviously and trading for other supplies.

Have you tried it ?

I've used a still similar to this, using a sugar wash. You wouldn't be able to make a large amount of alcohol with this type of still but enough to drink a couple gallons.

Different styles can be used for bigger production and using potatoes or whatever for the wash, assuming you had a small farm and more potatoes that you needed for food.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Petroleum will be irrelevant pretty quickly. Alcohol as a disinfectant for wounds or simply social medicine will still be useful but for farming it would be a net-negative energy source. Flammable liquid energy like that will be used for emergency purposes like running generators during a night-time attack or allowing a response team to move about quickly in suitably modified vehicles.

[Richard Turpin]

(03-12-2019 04:46 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Petroleum will be irrelevant pretty quickly. Alcohol as a disinfectant for wounds or simply social medicine will still be useful but for farming it would be a net-negative energy source. Flammable liquid energy like that will be used for emergency purposes like running generators during a night-time attack or allowing a response team to move about quickly in suitably modified vehicles.

Petroleum? This leads nicely onto .....

.... Bicycles!

Has anyone mentioned them yet? I know, I'm a biking advocate and folk will roll their eyes, but seriously, bikes will be a godsend when TEOTWAWKI hits.



Easy to fix and maintain, source parts for, uses no fuel, can be left and hid anywhere. You can fit it with panniers and use a backpack and instantly you've converted yourself from a slow 3 mph walk into a 15mph silent hunter/gatherer/scavenger with little effort. An escape speed of between 20 and 30mph if you run into mutants.

A 10 hour walk becomes a 2.5 hour glide. Don't forget you can hitch small trailers to the back too.

[Leonard D Neubache]

This scene was when The Walking Dead finally jumped the shark for me.



They're exhausted and hungry, walking away from the zombies only about as fast as zombies are following them. And I was thinking just what you wrote about there. "What happened to all the bloody bicycles?"



Not cool enough I suppose.

[Iconoclast007]

For those in Europe with limited firearm access a swiss halbard is good to have

https://youtu.be/zxWnnE3PzrE

A couple recurve bows with arrows and broadheads could be a great thing to have for a group defense paired with swiss halbard.

Im from TX and used to buy ak and ar variants over the counter. in contrast, Folks here in Europe are patheticly unarmed.

Also for processing firewood a silky katanaboy is great for hand sawing logs. Worth the price!

An air rifle and pellets paired with a trapline of connibear 110 steel traps will provide meat efficiently.

Gold or silver coins could get you accross checkpoints or tickets aboard a vessel and out of the shit. I think silver a great investment at todays prices. taking into acccount the ridiculous low ratios of above ground silver to gold. Silver is a no brainer.

Crypto currency could be a store of value, this has not been proven but is worth considering. Security coins are my favorite niche. Monero is an example.

Putting beans and rice into mylar bags inside food buckets is a cheap way to have calories stored. Store beans, rice, salt in seperate buckets with labels. It will last 10 years.

I train Jiu Jitsu and Krav Maga. Its just fun and great excercice. Jiu Jitsu is a secret weapon. Functional strength based training and weight lifting like swimming, running and calisthenics is good.

Theres a guy that was in Bosnia when the war effected civilians that writes online or used to, he said he would have stashed a few hundred bic lighters for easy portable barter currency.

Electric bicycles will be great to have. Electric hub motors and batterries. Also HAM radio equipment and knowledge is good.

[Leonard D Neubache]

A simple set of rules that could mean the difference between life and death.

Quote:

You Can Figure Out What's Edible Using The Universal Edibility Test

There's no obvious way to tell if a thing is edible simply by looking at it. You could put it in your mouth, sure, but many poisonous wild-growing plants look an awful lot like the kind of thing you'd put on the dinner table. For example, regular carrots and parsnips look almost identical to hemlock, a plant that will kill you so dead that they used it to execute people in the olden days.

Remember: "Leaves of white, not all right. Carrots of orange ... uh ... shit."
Fortunately, there is a way to figure out whether or not something is okay to eat. It's called the Universal Edibility Test, or UET. It's not flawless, but it's better than, say, prayer, which is your only other option. It goes like this: When you find something that looks like it might be edible, smell it first. Plants that don't want to be eaten have evolved for millions of years to communicate that fact to us, and many of them smell like a skunk's ass. If it smells okay, rub it on the inside of your elbow or wrist, and wait to see if you develop a rash or hives or anything.

If you die from the rash, it is super not safe to eat.
Ideally, you have enough time before you starve to death to give this test the scientific rigorousness it warrants, but if time really is short, then you want to give each step between 15 minutes and an hour before you move to the next stage. If the plant passes the elbow test, the next thing is to rub it on your lips, then wait again. If you're still feeling okay, put some of it in your mouth and swish it around, but don't swallow. After that, eat a very small amount of it and wait overnight. If you don't shit your organs out like you unwisely ordered Carl's Jr. at the tail end of a tequila bender, then whatever you're thinking of eating might be safe.

Of course, this test comes with some disclaimers. For example, it apparently doesn't work very well with mushrooms, and experienced survivalists will tell you that you should never eat a wild mushroom no matter what it looks like. In fact, don't eat any mushrooms. They're gross. And you're gross for arguing. Yes you, Reader #15623. Knock it off.

You can find a more professionally presented version of this here:

http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/MILITAR...part05.pdf

[debeguiled]

Excellent deadly plant test.

Here's a deadly animal test.

Should you climb a tree to get away from a black bear?

[Leonard D Neubache]

Yikes.

Gotta put an end to those bear exchange programs. That one's definitely spent time in Australia.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(04-24-2019 12:40 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Excellent deadly plant test.

Here's a deadly animal test.

Should you climb a tree to get away from a black bear?

Holy shit! It puts leopards to shame...

[Aurini]

Don't be such wusses. Black bears only way about 200 lbs or so. I weigh more than that, and I'm meaner. He'd be running up the tree to get away from me!

Now Moosae... there's a species with black hatred of humanity and true evil it's heart. Shoot them from long distance, and when you put their head on your wall make sure to ridicule them by adding a fez.

[Laner]

(04-24-2019 07:48 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

Don't be such wusses. Black bears only way about 200 lbs or so. I weigh more than that, and I'm meaner. He'd be running up the tree to get away from me!

Now Moosae... there's a species with black hatred of humanity and true evil it's heart. Shoot them from long distance, and when you put their head on your wall make sure to ridicule them by adding a fez.

I watched a 350lb black bear in the alpine move 500lb boulders aside to eat moths. He did it for hours. It gave me a whole new respect for shoulder and arm workouts.

Black bears are nothing to be afraid of unless you end up between the mother and cubs. Or you wound one and get excited and go charging over to see it. Bears are smart and wounded ones will lay still in the alders for hours saving the very last of their strength to rip your face off.

[BortimusPrime]

Credit to The Onion:

Quote:

Bear Attacks, Rapes Zookeeper

Here's a little dog-bites-man tale I couldn't resist! Except replace "dog" with "850-pound black bear"! And "bites" with "anally violate"!

Yes, last Saturday a zookeeper at the Metropolitan Zoo had "claws" for alarm when he was attacked and raped by the same black bear he had raised from a cub! Geez, talk about gratitude!

"It was horrible, just horrible, " sobbed an eyewitness. Guess she sure got an eyeful!

The bear, named "Barry", " attacked zookeeper Ron Gilks as Gilks entered the cage to give him dinner. Barry lunged at his throat, goring him with his huge claws and razor-sharp teeth. Some of the claw marks were three-quarters of an inch deep. Ouch!

Then, astonished onlookers could "bearly" believe what happened next--Barry began to brutally rape zookeeper Gilks!

Frantic zookeepers rushed for rifles as others tried to divert the bear. But there was no stopping Barry! This bear kept "bearing down, " and Gilks just had to grin and "bear" it! Maybe Barry was mistaking him for his "honey"!

Barry's 27-inch phallus, armed with guard hairs as sharp as red-hot needles, shot through Gilks' rectum, shattered his lower spine and skewered his colon, causing his entire lower torso to "cave" in! Yikes! Bet that wasn't the type of "cave" you had in mind when you took up zookeeping, Mr. Gilks!

And can you imagine Gilks' surprise when Barry's putrid ursine semen flooded his ruptured chest cavity? (By the way, Mr. Gilks, whatever cologne you've been wearing, where can the public get some?)

Finally, zookeeper Eric Pulliam shot Barry with a tranquilizer gun and pulled Gilks from the cage. The unconscious bear was later destroyed. Hey, this "Yogi" made a major "Boo-Boo"!

"I have worked with dangerous animals before, " zoo director Kate Donegal said. "But never have I seen any animal sexually assault a human being." "Barry"? Try "Scary"!

Meanwhile, Gilks was pronounced dead at an area hospital--but at least he died grinning and bearing it! No doubt, this episode gives new meaning to the term, "Do not feed the bears!"

[Foolsgo1d]

I've been following the Earth catastrophe cycle closely on and off in the past year. Saw a video today made in 1998 and the ancient wonder sites make up a huge clock (the theory) which could be a clock of a devatstating cycle for those on the surface of the Earth.

This video had the same evidence as videos from suspsicious observers on youtube and authors on Earth catastrophe cycle, including the Adam and Eve story classified by the CIA and heavily redacted upon release.

So far we have recorded a weakening magnetic field, a change in the sun and a change in our climate. I feel the whole man mad climate change thing is just throwing us off but it is a self-fulfilling prophecy as more extreme weather hits, more and more people become convinced its mankind and not a cycle.

My only concern is how to survive such a thing if it hits in my lfietime.

[debeguiled]

A shantyboat solves soo many problems. Just float away. This guy is going up and down the river making friends with all the people that would have shot at him otherwise. Just sitting on the front porch chatting, except he makes it easy by bringing the front porch to them.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Some excerpts of a book detailing suburban survival planning.

http://www.shastadefense.com/AFOC_A_Look...130212.pdf

The book itself (A failure Of Civility) is still available in PDF format for 19 bucks or so or if you go to Amazon you can get a used paperback copy for around about a thousand bucks. How that shit happens I have no idea.

[debeguiled]

Nice post LD, and reminded me of this mega collection of texts on how to survive if we get knocked back to the 1800s. Look at all this downloadable stuff. (Please excuse the failed formatting) I suppose to be safe, you would have to print it all out too. This is just a sample of what is there:

http://www.survivorlibrary.com/library-download

Quote:

New Additions
AccountingEngineering-ElectricalLivestock-SheepScientific American (Series 1)
AeroplanesEngineering-GeneralLivestock-SwineScientific American (Series 2)
AirshipsEngineering-HydraulicsMachine ToolsSewage
ArcheryEngraving and WoodcutsMachine Tools (Machinerys Reference)Sewing
ArchitectureEthicsMechanical DrawingShelter
AstronomyFarmingMedical Courses-US ArmyShipbuilding
BakingFarming-CornMedical-AnesthesiaShoemaking
BankingFarming-FishMedical-DiagnosticsShorthand
BasketryFarming-Grapes_Wine_RaisinsMedical-EmergencySilk Culture
Bee Journal (American)Farming-Potato and Sweet PotatoMedical-HypnotismSliderules and Abacus
Bee Journal (British)Firearms-BooksMedical-Medicine 1900-1922Smithing
BeekeepingFirearms-ManualsMedical-MicroscopySteam Engines
Beekeeping 2FishingMedical-Nursing 1900-1921Stone and Masonry
BerriesFoodMedical-Obstetrics 1900-1922Surveying
BoilermakerForestryMedical-Surgery 1900-1922Survival-Individual
BookbindingForging and CastingMedical-Surgery 2Teaching
BotanyFormulasMedical-X-RaysTeaching-Arithmetic
Boy Scout ManualsGeodesyMeteorologyTeaching-Civics
Brewing and DistillingGeographyMiscTeaching-Phonics
Bridges and DamsGlassmakingMonasticismTeaching-Readers
ButcheringGunpowder and ExplosivesMoralityTeaching-Readers-McGuffey
CanningHatmakingMushroomsTelegraph and Telephone
Cheese and Butter MakingHeatingMusical InstrumentsThanksgiving
ChemistryHeavy and Industrial MachineryNavigationTobacco
ChristmasHemp and FlaxNBCToys
ClockmakingHerbalismOpiumTrapping and Hunting
Coal and MiningHistory-AmericanOptometryTurpentine, Glue, Solvents
Coffee-TeaHome EconomicsPainting and DrawingVeterinary
Conduct of LifeHorsesPapermakingWagon and Coach Building
ConstructionJournalismPhotographyWeaving
Cooking and CookbooksKnitting-Lace-NeedlepointPotteryWelding
CottonLaundryPoultryWind and Water
Cycles (Bi-Tri-Motor)LeatherPrimersWood Magazine
DentistryLeisure-Games and SportsPrintingWood-Carpentry
DrillingLeisure-Recreation MagazineRadioWood-Carving
EconomicsLeisure-WhistRadio 73 MagazineWood-Furniture
EmbalmingLithographyRailroadsWork Magazine
EncyclopediasLivestock-CattleRefrigerationWorld Depression NEW
Engineering-DrainageLivestock-Rabbits and CaviesSanitation

[Donfitz007]

Im glad I'm not the only person who thought about creating a survival library. Hell even if I don't make it, that knowledge could be used.

Working with leather and wood is on my list of skills to learn.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I you decide to print out a survival library then do a bit of research about the longevity of the products (paper/ink) you're planning to use. I don't know much about it but apparently certain combinations of cheap copy paper and ink wont see out a decade without beginning to degrade.

This book is worth shelling out the cash for, especially if you live in America.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3800...try-living

I have a copy (somewhere) and although some of the content is specific to America most of it is universal.

[debeguiled]

Never mind his annoying breathy hippy tone of voice. This is a useful video.

[RexImperator]

Anyone else watch the Survival Russia channel on Youtube?

https://m.youtube.com/user/Moscowprepper

He’s a Danish guy living in Siberia with wife and kids. Good tips on starting fires, cold weather clothing, bushcraft, etc. Also the Russian taiga is interesting to see.

[Mr. Wolf]

Cool topic. If we ever do have to go into SHTF mode, antibiotics may be the difference between life and death. When you or a loved one is ill with a serious bacterial infection, or a wound begins festering, they are worth more than gold. A good general-purpose antibiotic is Amoxicillin.

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/fi...paredness/

[TrifeLife]

anyone have ideas about obtaining a large quantity of a prescription drug, say a mood stabilizer for someone with bipolar disorder, which would potentially be impossible to come by in a real disaster scenario?

[gework]

(05-02-2019 03:46 PM)TrifeLife Wrote:  

anyone have ideas about obtaining a large quantity of a prescription drug

The markets on the dark web are packed with prescription drugs.