[ATTA]

My friend and I are in our early 20s so naturally we flock college bars.

Anyways, much like a fraternity basement party we court and begin to dance with these two girls. We escalate. We make-out. We build rapport through subtle negs and conversation. Textbook stuff.

So later on, as the bar was closing my friend suggested we all four head back to our place for some drinks and the girls agreed. Now my friend and I thought we had it. We get outside and walk literally a block to our parked car.

It couldn't of been more than 3 minutes from the bar to the car when finally faced the open car doors literally a foot away, the girls decided to head home instead. Making up some BS about getting up early for work.

Now my question is: How do you make it so that the momentum from point A (the pickup area) to point B (place to have sex) doesn't wane?

Some of the conclusions my friend and I agreed upon were:

Should have flagged down one of the numerous cabs right outside the bar, making it difficult for the girls to have time to think about what they're doing.

--and--

Isolate the two girls better rather than leaving them alone to talk amongst themselves. Plotting to deny us pussy that we had put so much energy into courting.

[WesternCancer]

Good point, I'm in the same boat over here. It takes 20-40 minutes of transit to get back to where I live so there is always a long bus ride where you can't be as phyiscal enough to keep the impulsive decision to come home with you/fuck you. I usually try to get her to sleep on my shoulder telling her to rest up because she'll need the energy (not said like that) or if conversation is beginning to go in the wrong direction play games on a smartphone or talk to others on the bus. Any thoughts on this strategy?

[Tuthmosis]

You didn't keep up the energy and enthusiasm that got you in that position in the first place. Things started to feel serious to the girls (the equivalent of hearing "we're about to fuck you") and they freaked out.

When I leave a venue for another venue, especially if it's my place, I turn up the temperature on the interaction. You have to stay "fun," but there's no dark room or loud music to help you. You can't allow there to be a significant break in energy level; You must make up the difference, in a way. Otherwise, the girl's balloon pops and she'll want to go home, which is exactly what happened in this case.

[gringochileno]

One thing I learned from Mystery that I use to this day, every time I need to overcome a logistical hurdle to bang a chick:

After you've left a place and are your way to the sex location, you must talk talk talk. It truly doesn't matter what you say; above all else, you must not allow silence to occur in those critical minutes before you get to the place where you intend to try and fuck. Keep her logical mind occupied and do not let her consciously think about the fact that she's about to hook up with you. I have spit the most unintelligible bullshit verbal diarrhea at girls on the walk or cab ride home, and I consciously make an effort to keep that conversation spigot turned on because if I can get a girl to cross that magical threshold into my apartment I know my chances of hitting go up by a factor of 10.

Tuthmosis's advice about keeping the energy level the same as the place you just came from is solid, but if you can't pull off that vibe it's preferable to talk about literally anything rather than afford her the silence she needs to think to herself "wait, I'm about to go fuck this guy. I can't do that, I'm not that easy! Besides, I promised my cat I'd do pilates with him in the morning." Keep the logical mind at bay and escalate physically until she's crossed that beautiful point of no return.

Good analogy by the way, Tuth. Don't pop the balloon, keep her in the moment and don't let her reflect on the reality of the situation.

[Roosh]

Doesn't sound like you kissed the girls before the venue change. Woulda helped keep the temperature up, as Tuth mentioned.

[germanico]

(10-06-2011 10:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Doesn't sound like you kissed the girls before the venue change. Woulda helped keep the temperature up, as Tuth mentioned.

I would advice the opposite, to delay the kiss for as much as you can, even until you have her in bed, if possible, to keep the sexual tension tense.

But that is my style. Try it on and see if it fits.

[Gmac]

(10-04-2011 11:40 PM)gringochileno Wrote:  

One thing I learned from Mystery that I use to this day, every time I need to overcome a logistical hurdle to bang a chick:

After you've left a place and are your way to the sex location, you must talk talk talk. It truly doesn't matter what you say; above all else, you must not allow silence to occur in those critical minutes before you get to the place where you intend to try and fuck. Keep her logical mind occupied and do not let her consciously think about the fact that she's about to hook up with you. I have spit the most unintelligible bullshit verbal diarrhea at girls on the walk or cab ride home, and I consciously make an effort to keep that conversation spigot turned on because if I can get a girl to cross that magical threshold into my apartment I know my chances of hitting go up by a factor of 10.

Tuthmosis's advice about keeping the energy level the same as the place you just came from is solid, but if you can't pull off that vibe it's preferable to talk about literally anything rather than afford her the silence she needs to think to herself "wait, I'm about to go fuck this guy. I can't do that, I'm not that easy! Besides, I promised my cat I'd do pilates with him in the morning." Keep the logical mind at bay and escalate physically until she's crossed that beautiful point of no return.

Good analogy by the way, Tuth. Don't pop the balloon, keep her in the moment and don't let her reflect on the reality of the situation.

This is great advice. You have to keep the momentum going... so if possible, don't let her out of your sight. The more lag in between you two talking and her leaving, the higher the chances of them going home (i.e. their friends talking to each other). You should have offered to ride separately claiming it's (cheaper) or something. Get creative.

[DonovanVC]

I like this post. We need more specific examples of logistics and pulling the girl on this site. Most of the stories I hear on sites and forums follow the routine of 1) get to club 2) hit on girl 3) make out 4) wake up next to girl the following morning. I scratch my head askin what happened between steps 3 and 4, since there are many chances to lose the girl during that "extraction" period.

Logistics ain't necessarily the hardest part of the game, as the advice in this thread is quite solid and has worked for me in the past.

My questions regarding logistics mostly spring from my current location and is pretty applicable to gaming in sprawling US cities such as L.A., where I am now.

I was at the club last week. Had a good thing going with a girl. Then I realized...how the fuck would I pull this girl? first, this club is huge.

Second, I came with my friend, cuz distances r forever in L.A.

Third, that car is way down in the parking garage, which would take 10 minutes easily to get to. Plus, its his car, not mine. I dont have keys and dont know where the fuck he is in the club.

Fourth, where do I pull to? Right now I'm out in the burbs so my living space is 45 minutes away. But even if I lived in the city, it would take me 20-30 minutes to take a girl back there considering the distances in these sprawling territories.

I had a good friend of mine who had an SUV, so he could jes pull girls and isolate in his SUV, and smash in the SUV.

The times I have pulled from clubs has been when I had airtight logistics, such as the bar being walking distance from my apartment. I lived in Tokyo for 5 months this year, and it was in the smack middle of Shibuya, and 3 clubs were literally 3 MINUTES walking distance. Safe to say, I had much success there.

In college, you hit college parties and logistics are always good, since parties are not far and student house is close by, making the hook up so easy then.

Sometimes I feel like I am wasting time going to a big ass club which is obviously far away from any housing unless your a millionaire with a crib in Hollywood or a sick beach pad in Santa Monica.

The only realistic option I am focusing on is hitting spots near where I live, but those aren't always the spots where my "type" of girls r going to be.