[Black Caesar]

Because flying a girl out when you have Game is very different from flying a girl out when you are a Mark

[Beirut]

Id offer her and her gf a place to stay but that’s just me. Who cares if she’d like to meet a hotter guy. Take your shot.

Disclaimer: no experience doing this with American girls

[lunchmoney]

bumping this thread from the summer - Do guys here really do this?
I know a few rich simps that meet girls on instagram (i.e IG Models) and attempt this b.s, but flying in pussy to me is no different than going to a strip club.

[zamfir112]

i pay for my LTR and Wives. thats about it.. new girls no fucking chance.. i spend zero on new girls until they invest in me first.. it also depends on the socioeconomic situation of the girl. im not going to spend anything if the girl has money, i actually dated a few girls who paid for me instead.. i had a banker girl in hong kong who paid for my food,drinks and activities,no joke..

[MarsBlacc]

Weak as fuck.

You're basically paying for pussy which gets no respect in my books. You're a mark if you do that sugar daddy bullshit. There's a difference between treating your girl and paying a chick to hang out with you. If she's so eager to visit you she can pay for her own ticket. It isn't about being able to pay for the trip, it's the principle of valuing yourself.

[zamfir112]

(11-17-2018 06:40 PM)MarsBlacc Wrote:  

Weak as fuck.

You're basically paying for pussy which gets no respect in my books. You're a mark if you do that sugar daddy bullshit. There's a difference between treating your girl and paying a chick to hang out with you. If she's so eager to visit you she can pay for her own ticket. It isn't about being able to pay for the trip, it's the principle of valuing yourself.

theres a lot of loser guys paying for girls to be naked in sex chat rooms in hope of dating them(i know this to be the case with any girl above 8 in looks willing to show her body naked), some of these top cam whores earn hundreds or thousands of dollars per month just to show the titties and trick beta guys into the posibility of a date with them . attractive women today have it very very good,its almost criminal how much attractive girls above 8 get away with taking advantage of weak men. the most pathetic thing is the actual men willing to pay to date a woman they havent banged yet.
the market is inflated because of guys like that. a lot of attracftive women are expecting the man to be a sugar daddy. before the interernet days those guys hanged around in strip clubs now they are just lazy infront of their computer getting fatter and fatter. its amazing they have money to throw away like that , i think its better to donate it to charity or the actual needy than give girls anything at all.

[zamfir112]

(11-17-2018 06:40 PM)MarsBlacc Wrote:  

Weak as fuck.

You're basically paying for pussy which gets no respect in my books. You're a mark if you do that sugar daddy bullshit. There's a difference between treating your girl and paying a chick to hang out with you. If she's so eager to visit you she can pay for her own ticket. It isn't about being able to pay for the trip, it's the principle of valuing yourself.

yes, and the question is how different is this from P4P. atleast if you bang a P4P girl your chances are already 100%. agreed paying is for the weak or stupid. i actually respect people who negotiate a P4P more than those willing to pay for pussy without guaranteed chance of getting laid

[MarsBlacc]

(11-17-2018 06:51 PM)zamfir112 Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 06:40 PM)MarsBlacc Wrote:  

Weak as fuck.

You're basically paying for pussy which gets no respect in my books. You're a mark if you do that sugar daddy bullshit. There's a difference between treating your girl and paying a chick to hang out with you. If she's so eager to visit you she can pay for her own ticket. It isn't about being able to pay for the trip, it's the principle of valuing yourself.

yes, and the question is how different is this from P4P. atleast if you bang a P4P girl your chances are already 100%. agreed paying is for the weak or stupid. i actually respect people who negotiate a P4P more than those willing to pay for pussy without guaranteed chance of getting laid

A cat that dropped to its death and a cat that died of old age have one thing in common. They're both dead cats.

A mark who pays for pussy and a mark paying in hopes of getting pussy is still a mark.

[lunchmoney]

(11-17-2018 06:40 PM)MarsBlacc Wrote:  

Weak as fuck.

You're basically paying for pussy which gets no respect in my books. You're a mark if you do that sugar daddy bullshit. There's a difference between treating your girl and paying a chick to hang out with you. If she's so eager to visit you she can pay for her own ticket. It isn't about being able to pay for the trip, it's the principle of valuing yourself.

[rapaz12]

Oh man, this is relevant. I got a woman from another country talking about flying out to see me. It seems she'll have the flight covered, but what about lodging?

I'm asking because I was talking with the woman recently and she asked me, "where am I going to stay?" I felt that maybe she was asking where am I going to pay for her to stay but maybe I'm looking to deep into this....

Ideally I would prefer to just cover stuff like meals and outings.

[RDF]

^ Why doesn't she just stay with you?

[Barney]

Women will go to the most extreme lengths for the chance of hooking up with an alpha male. Dump their husbands, abandon their kids and families, rob their mothers to buy a plane ticket so they can fly themselves out....

The way women treat alphas compared to the rest of men is disgustingly eye opening and unforgivable which is why all men shouldn't bother lifting a god damn finger for these women.

[Pointer]

It's like paying for an escort..at least the escort will not complain that she is on her period or make up some other bullshit reason not to bang.
The way I see it she gets free accommodation, free food and drinks and a free tour of the city with a local. That's already a very good deal. She can pay for own fucking ticket at least.

[godzilla]

I paid for a flight for a girl to come visit me over here in New York for about 2 weeks. We dated for a month in Eastern Europe. She never asked me to come visit and it was my idea entirely. She wouldn't have been able to afford to come visit. She stayed at my place and paid for everything else.

I don't really see the problem with this. If you like a girl, there's nothing wrong with wanting to spend more money to spend more time with her.

Some of the comments I'm reading here tells that maybe you guys are selecting the right girls either. If you haven't banged her yet, I probably wouldn't do it.

[Axel99]

(11-18-2018 08:40 PM)godzilla Wrote:  

I paid for a flight for a girl to come visit me over here in New York for about 2 weeks. We dated for a month in Eastern Europe. She never asked me to come visit and it was my idea entirely. She wouldn't have been able to afford to come visit. She stayed at my place and paid for everything else.

I don't really see the problem with this. If you like a girl, there's nothing wrong with wanting to spend more money to spend more time with her.

Some of the comments I'm reading here tells that maybe you guys are selecting the right girls either. If you haven't banged her yet, I probably wouldn't do it.

Some guys are all about ego and being alpha, anything that threatens that is a no go in their eyes. It's like they want every girl they fuck with to worship with them. I'm a simple man, I dont even think about my ego or "alphaness". If I'm having a good time, I made the right decision.

[Mr_furly]

(11-17-2018 04:38 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  

bumping this thread from the summer - Do guys here really do this?
I know a few rich simps that meet girls on instagram (i.e IG Models) and attempt this b.s, but flying in pussy to me is no different than going to a strip club.

How often do you spend money on dates/going out to bars and clubs for pussy??? You spending money any fuckin ways. IDk why people on here bitch about money so much. If you can't afford it u can't afford it but if you can what difference does it make

[Mr_furly]

(11-18-2018 03:17 PM)rapaz12 Wrote:  

Oh man, this is relevant. I got a woman from another country talking about flying out to see me. It seems she'll have the flight covered, but what about lodging?

I'm asking because I was talking with the woman recently and she asked me, "where am I going to stay?" I felt that maybe she was asking where am I going to pay for her to stay but maybe I'm looking to deep into this....

Ideally I would prefer to just cover stuff like meals and outings.

U really need me to tell you that she want's to stay with you?

[Barney]

(11-18-2018 09:22 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Some guys are all about ego and being alpha, anything that threatens that is a no go in their eyes. It's like they want every girl they fuck with to worship with them. I'm a simple man, I dont even think about my ego or "alphaness". If I'm having a good time, I made the right decision.

It's all fun until reality sets in and the total internet stranger you bought a plane ticket for bails before meeting....which they should.

Any man willing to fly over a random woman for the chance at sex is a mark, unless they're a billionaire businessman or Dan Bilzerian.

[Axel99]

(11-18-2018 10:21 PM)Barney Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 09:22 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Some guys are all about ego and being alpha, anything that threatens that is a no go in their eyes. It's like they want every girl they fuck with to worship with them. I'm a simple man, I dont even think about my ego or "alphaness". If I'm having a good time, I made the right decision.

It's all fun until reality sets in and the total internet stranger you bought a plane ticket for bails before meeting....which they should.

Any man willing to fly over a random woman for the chance at sex is a mark, unless they're a billionaire businessman or Dan Bilzerian.

I agree if your dumb enough to buy a ticket for an "internet stranger" but the girl I was talking about is someone I met irl and hooked up with.

[Barney]

(11-18-2018 10:27 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 10:21 PM)Barney Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 09:22 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Some guys are all about ego and being alpha, anything that threatens that is a no go in their eyes. It's like they want every girl they fuck with to worship with them. I'm a simple man, I dont even think about my ego or "alphaness". If I'm having a good time, I made the right decision.

It's all fun until reality sets in and the total internet stranger you bought a plane ticket for bails before meeting....which they should.

Any man willing to fly over a random woman for the chance at sex is a mark, unless they're a billionaire businessman or Dan Bilzerian.

I agree if your dumb enough to buy a ticket for an "internet stranger" but the girl I was talking about is someone I met irl and hooked up with.

I didn't read your post, but was making a general point.

[Shemp]

>>I've known a couple of guys who helped pay for girls to come stay with them and then the girls friendzoned them and never put out. It was very humiliating for the guys involved

Good thing the OP dodged that bullet.

What I would do on this situation is be very open: "Assuming things go well between us, I'll reimburse you for the ticket at the end of the trip. The reason I won't pay in advance is it would leave a bad taste in my mouth if I paid and things didn't go well, so that I would be very distrusting of other girls in the future, which would be unfair to them. I can assure you that I want to see you and you're welcome to sleep in my apartment regardless of how things go between us, so no risk of you having to pay for a hotel. All you risk is the cost of the plane ticket, and no risk there if you are looking forwards as much to seeing me as I am to seeing you, because in that case things will definitely go well between us." Maybe be more sexually explicit depending on how you two normally talk.

Then STICK TO YOUR GUNS if she tries to negotiate, such as paying half in advance, paying halfway through the trip, etc. If she tries to negotiate, she's either immature or playing you: in either case best to dump her.

[rapaz12]

(11-18-2018 03:43 PM)RDF Wrote:  

^ Why doesn't she just stay with you?

I considered that. I live in a shared space right now and it definitely wouldn't fly with the people here. The only way I can think to apply your suggestion is to pay for a room in a hotel for myself, suggest a place for her to stay, and then try to bounce her to the hotel during the stay at the other place I suggest to her.

[Fuck This]

(11-18-2018 09:22 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Some guys are all about ego and being alpha, anything that threatens that is a no go in their eyes. It's like they want every girl they fuck with to worship with them. I'm a simple man, I dont even think about my ego or "alphaness". If I'm having a good time, I made the right decision.

So did she end up following through and meeting you when she was in town?

I had a similar situation that worked out for me quite well. She was coming through a month later anyway , and I had the cash to grab the flight a month early. Had a great long weekend, and then she met me a month later on her dime...

Granted leading up to that first meeting though I was NOT sure if she was going to flake or not...I was pretty nervous. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone but those guys with 1) nothing to lose. 2) a backup plan. 3) Rock solid Lover frame.

[Shemp]

>>Granted leading up to that first meeting though I was NOT sure if she was going to flake or not...I was pretty nervous. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone but those guys with 1) nothing to lose. 2) a backup plan. 3) Rock solid Lover frame.

You were risking not just money, but also humiliation if she flaked or, even worse, flew into town on your dime then stayed with some other guy she met on tinder. You have to take risks in life, but you want limited risks with odds in your favor, heavily on your favor for big risks, maybe just slightly in your favor for small risks. Fact that you were nervous indicates odds were not heavily enough in your favor to justify the risk.

Everyone has a different risk tolerance of course. Mine is such that I would never pay in advance. At most, I'd reimburse the money when we met at the airport. That's for a girl I'd already had sex with and was pretty certain was down for more sex. Yes, she could take the reimbursement and then walk off and get a taxi to meet some other guy, but that much less likely than ordinary flaking.

[lunchmoney]

(11-18-2018 09:45 PM)Mr_furly Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 04:38 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  

bumping this thread from the summer - Do guys here really do this?
I know a few rich simps that meet girls on instagram (i.e IG Models) and attempt this b.s, but flying in pussy to me is no different than going to a strip club.

How often do you spend money on dates/going out to bars and clubs for pussy??? You spending money any fuckin ways. IDk why people on here bitch about money so much. If you can't afford it u can't afford it but if you can what difference does it make

That is the same logic as a man who pays a hooker for pussy.
We just see things different.