[sterlingarcher]

A close friend is about to get married (registry office). His long-time girlfriend is pregnant (about to drop). They have been living togther for 5 years already.

He knows nothing about game.

What to do?

My plan is to give him some books on marriage game, but I’m not sure what else.

Excuse this post, but I just thought people might have some ideas. I don't want to realize too late there would have been some good advice to give.

[RatInTheWoods]

Its too late for him now, hes going to get married no matter what.

He will learn from that experience, so let it play out and always be whispering advice in his ear.

[kaotic]

Is your friend a "natural" with game?

Or do you think he's completely oblivious to the ways of women?

Dropping red pill knowledge to a plugged in man won't go over well.

Giving him red pill advice might alienate you from him, oh did I mention he'll probably tell his woman the advice you gave him?

Further alienating you.


I'm all for helping my brothers in this world, but sometimes it's best done to men in small doses.

Rat's right, have his back, give him solid advice with bits of red pill advice.

Unfortunately in his case he needs to play it out.

[Avadhuta]

Have you talked to him about a paternity test? It might be worth running inception game - ie. make him think it was his idea - on your friend about it if you think he might get offended by the suggestion.

Is he aware of how much a divorce could cost him? Does he have a pre-nup and can you suggest that to him?

[Sam Malone]

(06-21-2018 05:46 PM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  

A close friend is about to get married (registry office). His long-time girlfriend is pregnant (about to drop). They have been living togther for 5 years already.

He knows nothing about game.

What to do?

My plan is to give him some books on marriage game, but I’m not sure what else.

Excuse this post, but I just thought people might have some ideas. I don't want to realize too late there would have been some good advice to give.

Going against the grain for a minute, and based solely on the content of the post and nothing else...

Is there a reason you want to talk him out of it ? Is she a bitch ? Is she taking random tinder cock behind his back ? How old are they ? Did they date in high school ? Meet in college ?

There’s a big difference between her being 18 (when they met) and her only having a notch count of 2 or 3 before your buddy, versus being 31 with her cock count in the triple digits and her biological clock ticking.

5 years is a long time to know anyone, and living together has given him a look behind the curtain, so to speak. He likely knows what makes her tick, pisses her off, and the like.

It may not exactly be the end of the world for him, especially considering that they’ve been living together for 5 years (versus not knowing each other for 5 months, or worse, 5 weeks).

A few more of the blanks need to be filled in before any reasonable advice can be provided.

[sterlingarcher]

'Is your friend a "natural" with game?'

Far from it...

'Have you talked to him about a paternity test?'

No, that would be taken as heavily offensive. In any case an unlikely concern.

'Is there a reason you want to talk him out of it ?'

No, only that it's a blue pill wedding and it's being driven by circumstance...

Is she a bitch ?

No, not in any way. She's a good one.

Is she taking random tinder cock behind his back ?

Whilst you never know, no. (At least not specifically from Tinder))

How old are they ?

Late 30's.

'Did they date in high school ? Meet in college ?'

Through friends.

It's just the marriage piece, the circumstances, and the fact that I know his reality is limited. Also I guess my own view of the world.

[droughtmeat]

Not the right time. If they divorce, you can teach him everything

[Mr Mandingo]

Your concerns about your friend are not on solid basis.

[lookslikeit]

Running game require energy. Your friend is old and want to settle with an equivalent old woman. If they are fine with each other I’ll just let it be.

[Cobra]

Seems like they have a decent relationship and she doesn't seem to be a insta-slut.

I will really go against the grain here.

Having been there for a while (marriage), I can tell you there are benefits too. They're just not easy to see for the majority of the forum which is not married and prefer not to.

For one, if they are late 30s, the clock is ticking for her to have kids. If he really wants to leave a legacy behind, having kids and raising them under one roof could turn into one of the most fulfilling scenarios he could have in life. For me, it has been and I'll tell you what, my experience with my kids makes up for every single thing that I lost by not being single.

Every man is different. My point is that getting married in and of itself doesn't make you beta or blue pill and furthermore, disqualify you from alphaness or the red pill. That's just not reality. How you handle that marriage, however, will determine your character as a man. There is even a good chance that he could teach you a thing or two.

For me, there are good days and bad. Sometimes, more bad than good, other times vice versa. However, realize that I found this forum after marriage and it actually HELPED my marriage, in addition to my career , physical fitness and overall game.

[christpuncher]

Late 30s couple, nice, pregnant fiancee. Recommendation is to blow up his life because of "game" ???

This is not redpill...

[Sombro]

[sterlingarcher]

So they got married, have had a baby and he seems pretty happy...

She is a good girl, they are good friends, and they laugh a lot.

But, I've caught a look on his face from time to time, (especially when there are good looking women around and he's had to cut short a beer in the sun to run a bath for the baby)...

I guess that's true for anyone in that situation, but here's the thing;

- She has a great job and gets paid A LOT more than he does
- He has a great apartment in an expensive city (that I guess is now theirs)
- He doesn't really take care of himself or his style as much as he could

That's a pretty good set-up for failure.

I've never spoken to him about red pill stuff or game.

He's been in a couple relationship since my pre-red pill days.

I just hoped I'd get a call one day to tell me they'd broken up, and then I'd have shared everything.

Instead I get a call to tell me she's pregnant.

Anyway, I want to help him help himself, and not get divorce raped (which is otherwise possible) without red pilling him NOW (which would be pretty cruel).

Any tips?

[asianirish1]

Yes. Stop being a clown, it's not high school

[sterlingarcher]

Helpful...

[sterlingarcher]

Anyway...what high school did you go to?

Amish community?))

[NoMoreTO]

(04-20-2019 05:22 AM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  

So they got married, have had a baby and he seems pretty happy...

….
- He doesn't really take care of himself or his style as much as he could

….

Any tips?

Go to the gym with him, or begin doing a physical activity (eg. biking, rec sports league, Ju Jitsu) to encourage him to live healthy.

It is a universal positive thing to improve your health.
- It is an ideal excuse to take a moment for yourself because health is universally regarded as important.
- It will give you an opportunity to understand how his relationship is going and try to give him small parts of advice like "You don't need to take that BS"
- Being in shape will keep his wives' natural attraction to him. It will also get his sexual hormones and confidence up naturally.
- Drop him a few style tips here and there also.

I don't think you can red pill a blue pill guy on women who is trying to make it work with his wife and family.

If his marriage falls apart, at least he won't be fat and out of shape, and he will have something to devote himself to.

[sterlingarcher]

∆ Now THAT is a good tip.

Thanks.

[SlutMaker]

(06-21-2018 05:46 PM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  

A close friend is about to get married (registry office). His long-time girlfriend is pregnant (about to drop). They have been living togther for 5 years already.

He knows nothing about game.

What to do?

My plan is to give him some books on marriage game, but I’m not sure what else.

Excuse this post, but I just thought people might have some ideas. I don't want to realize too late there would have been some good advice to give.

This isn't your place. I understand you're trying to be a good friend but you're actually being more of a detrimental than helpful. You're trying to insert your reality onto your friend which isn't healthy and advise against it. If your friend is asking for your help - give it. If not, shut up and live your own life. You're only going to creep in unnesscary doubt on his end which can go sideways for the simple fact you've now made him paranoid.

[cruzinV]

It sounds like your HOPING for his marriage to fail. Plus if she makes alot more money than him, and owns her own apt how exactly is HE going to get divorce rapes? If anything she got the short end of the stick.

[sterlingarcher]

(04-20-2019 07:32 PM)SlutMaker Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 05:46 PM)sterlingarcher Wrote:  

A close friend is about to get married...

This isn't your place. I understand you're trying to be a good friend but you're actually being more of a detrimental than helpful. You're trying to insert your reality onto your friend which isn't healthy and advise against it. If your friend is asking for your help - give it. If not, shut up and live your own life. You're only going to creep in unnesscary doubt on his end which can go sideways for the simple fact you've now made him paranoid.

Thanks.

I'd had that thought, and you're right.

[sterlingarcher]

(04-20-2019 08:12 PM)cruzinV Wrote:  

It sounds like your HOPING for his marriage to fail. Plus if she makes alot more money than him, and owns her own apt how exactly is HE going to get divorce rapes? If anything she got the short end of the stick.

Of course I'm not.

As I understand it, the starting point for a divorce settlement is 50/50. So, he'd likely lose 50% of a valuable asset.

That's how.

It's a reality that a woman earning more than her man is not a good dynamic.

Like Patrice O'Neill said... "It's king and queen. There is no QUEENdom".