[MrLemon]

(06-17-2018 10:29 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

Everyone here knows she got the Oscar on her knees like the rest of them.

She's the new "Jennifer Lawrence". Mildly attractive, but definitely not a smoke show. Puffed up by the media that she's hot etc. Same thing can be said for Daisy Ridley, Emma Stone(woof).

I think Avengers 4 will be my last comic book movie i see. I'm just tired of being hit over the head by the strong female who can do just as much if not more than the main hero.

I read that Captain Marvel will be the most powerful marvel hero once she's introduced...for anyone that has seen infinity war will think that Thor pretty much could've won the fight single handedly, so how much more powerful will captain marvel be. Pure SJW non-sense.
I used to love comics and the related culture but it is revolting to me now.
I can't wait for it to collapse on itself post Avengers 4.

She looks like a less-sexy Elizabeth Shue. Don't get me wrong, I like Elizabeth Shue. Would wife. But an all-powerful superhero? I don gettit. To her kids or something? Is this like "SuperMom?"

[Not a Second Hander]

I think on a meta level, movies before 2007 celebrated the beauty of the human condition despite its imperfections and frequent ugliness. Now there is an almost unbearable undercurrent of cynicism in movies even in rather light movies like Rom-Coms or superhero movies. Cynicism can be beautiful for art as long as it is seasoned with a glimmer of hope. But a lot of the stuff out today seems to be misanthropic and negative.

For example, movies like Boyz in the Hood, Goodfellas or even Boondock Saints would never make it to the big screen today. Directors can't just let hood niggas be hood niggas, Italian gangsters be gangsters and Boston Irish goons be hard drinking, chainsmoking religious Catholics.

Somehow they feel the need that people have to be improved or reformed. So the storylines deviate from the human experience nd focus on what man ought to be instead of focusing on the experience and letting the viewer make the judgement for himself.

I think that ties into the societal change question I asked. According to the this board, people are LESS tolerant that they used to be even 10 years ago. I don't know I'm not American but it seems likely.

I only watched 2 movies in the past 2.5 years. The Revenant and The Big Short. The later, was a good movie but at the end, they ruined it by passing judgement on the Wallstreet guys and how the rich always get away with everything.

I think this alienates considerable minority of viewers, mostly men, who naturally don't like being told what to think.

Could also be that I'm in my late 20s and my priorities are changing. That idea for a thread about how the world has changed in the past decade or so would be very interesting.

[questor70]

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mistaking pop-culture consumption for moral worth as opposed to, you know, how we carry ourselves every day; how we treat other people; and how we support (or don’t) the causes that matter to us. Instead, we equate what someone watches on Netflix as the mark of a good/bad person.

This IS the problem.

This is exactly the drum I've been beating in this forum for a while now, and why I've been bringing some links of this or that petty outrage along the lines of Wonder Woman's armpit hair.

Political discourse in the era of social networking has devolved to the point where people hang their ideological hats on their pop culture likes and dislikes.

And I can bet you that when an SJW says they like something, oftentimes they don't truly "like" it. They only like what they think it represents.

I also think the idea that likes and dislikes should fall in line with demographic buckets is part and parcel of our increasingly fragmented and tribal times.

It's a LOOONG time removed from the days when we had only 3 networks and a smattering of UHF channels and everyone managed to enjoy watching whatever was on even if the gender or race of the protagonists wasn't the same as yours. Now I think people feel like content should be tailor-made for this or that group and you're not really welcome in the sandbox, ala the all-female Wonder Woman screening at the Alamo Drafthouse.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(06-17-2018 10:02 PM)Not a Second Hander Wrote:  

I think on a meta level, movies before 2007 celebrated the beauty of the human condition despite its imperfections and frequent ugliness. Now there is an almost unbearable undercurrent of cynicism in movies even in rather light movies like Rom-Coms or superhero movies. Cynicism can be beautiful for art as long as it is seasoned with a glimmer of hope. But a lot of the stuff out today seems to be misanthropic and negative.

For example, movies like Boyz in the Hood, Goodfellas or even Boondock Saints would never make it to the big screen today. Directors can't just let hood niggas be hood niggas, Italian gangsters be gangsters and Boston Irish goons be hard drinking, chainsmoking religious Catholics.

Somehow they feel the need that people have to be improved or reformed. So the storylines deviate from the human experience nd focus on what man ought to be instead of focusing on the experience and letting the viewer make the judgement for himself.

I think that ties into the societal change question I asked. According to the forum, people are LESS tolerant that they used to be even 10 years ago.

I only watched 2 movies in the past 2.5 years. The Recent and The Big Short. The later, was a good movie but at the end, they ruined it by passing judgement on the Wallstreet guys and how the rich always get away with everything.

I think this alienates considerable minority of viewers, mostly men, who naturally don't like being told what to think.

Could also be that I'm in my late 20s and my priorities are changing. That idea for a thread about how the world has changed in the past decade or so would be very interesting.

Excellent post, many subtle and correct perceptions here. You are right to place the dividing line right around 2007 or so.

This is a very large subject that would need to be discussed at great length. But it's quite true that films made since the time you've identified are unwatchable and give nothing -- in fact, they only take away. I experience this in a very extreme way, the very stock of these films is intolerable to me for more than a few moments. The hatred of life and of the world has changed the stock and made it bad.

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For example, movies like Boyz in the Hood, Goodfellas or even Boondock Saints would never make it to the big screen today. Directors can't just let hood niggas be hood niggas, Italian gangsters be gangsters and Boston Irish goons be hard drinking, chainsmoking religious Catholics.

Somehow they feel the need that people have to be improved or reformed. So the storylines deviate from the human experience nd focus on what man ought to be instead of focusing on the experience and letting the viewer make the judgement for himself.

This is exactly right, and the reason for this moralizing obsession is the hatred of life and the conviction -- the knowledge -- that life is "meaningless" to the end of the line. It's what I've called nihilism. Now that in itself is of course nothing new, but until relatively recently the medium of film -- Hollywood film in particular -- was able to largely escape the strictures of nihilism because it had to answer to other and stronger demands and it was essentially uncontrollable. That changed right around the time you identified, and it resulted in the death of film.

However, it's even more important to note that we are extremely lucky to have gotten so much for as long as we did. The legacy of 20th century film is a gift of artistic creation with absolutely no parallel in human history; it dwarfs the achievements of the Renaissance or any other period. It has given us enough to fill many lifetimes.

Again, there is much more here than could be said in one post, even a lengthy one. But I just wanted to note how exceptionally perceptive yours was.

[Captainstabbin]

The directors have said that she's the most powerful hero in the MCU - the bitch can literally move planets like the Silver Age Superman. Which begs the question, why wait to call her into action? Why let the Avengers, Wakandans and half of the universe die when you have a chick who could end it before it even started?

They've written themselves into a corner with Thanos.

[Captainstabbin]

I still like some superhero movies - I've said before that I used to be a comic nerd until the scene turned SJW. But, the way they're all going for fully saturated SJW nonsense, will drive even me away.

And it's not just the writers, the actors aren't even trying to hide it anymore. That faggot who plays the movie Flash will make me NEVER watch a movie he's in. All of the SW actors are openly insulting people critical of their movies. It's all reached a completely new level.

[AnonymousBosch]

(06-17-2018 04:36 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today.

OK, I understand, that I'll probably lose a lot of you here, but I'll try anyway:

I had a sudden flash of insight last night hearing an off-handed question on a talk I was listening to, about how undignified our Current Leaders have become, and how their petty sniping and childlike-behaviour is being celebrated by everyone, and you can extrapolate this outwards to celebrities, corporations, social institutitions and even the concept of Twitter itself.

The Priest said: "It's a sign of Intemperance. People like it [watching people snipe at each other] because it's indulging their appetites."

We've long understood this here. People keep talking about the need for social media detoxing. Look at Forney perceptively-laughing about me wandering off a few months ago: "He'll be back." He knows, because he's tried and, similarly, failed.

Suddenly, all the different strands of thought I'd been identifying over the last few years came together.

What the priest meant by Intemperance and Indulgence, is a lack of control over the Impassioned Drives of the Lower Faculties, which are based on Emotion, not Reason. Obviously, Temperance and the Ability to Suffer without needing to indulge these passions are formed by The Guiding Moral Virtues, which means you need to grow up in your formative stages with strict Objective Definitions of what is, spiritually, right or wrong.

When a people - meaning, as a society, deeply lack Moral Virtue, then they are helpless to ignore their passions, and, as such, can only respond to things that appeal to the Lower Faculties, meaning, they fall prey to Emotional (Subjective) Truth rather than Reasoned (Objective) Truth.

As such, they can only bond with Simplistic Ideologies that appeal to their Narcissism, and, as such, are easy prey for Demagoguery.

WHAT THIS MEANS

- As Quintus could probably explain: historically, it was known that Democracy can't survive a lack of Moral Virtue in its Citizens. It really is a strict objective code of right and wrong that holds everything together. Otherwise, in all recorded patterns, a Society first descends in Demagoguery, then Tyranny.

- This would explain why Reform Judaism / Socialism, branded as 'Progressivism' fights so hard to replace objective truth with subjective truth. It preps the Population for Demagoguery to more quickly speed the descent into Tyranny, which is why they're continually-focused on messing up childhood development in the schooling system.

As I wrote a few years back on here, the SJW's were kept in an early High School Stage of Moral Development: what their peers say is correct is correct, and, as such, there is only black (Traditional) or white (Progressive) thinking. This was what Obama did to Higher Education starting in 2009 - deliberately retarding the moral development of young adults -which became more evident as they started leaving the Universities in 2012 and politicizing everything in the name of the interest group behind Progressivism.

Obama, in himself, was a Demagogue. Bernie. Clinton.

Following on from these thoughts:

- Without Moral Virtue, Interior Life or Nobler concepts such as Honor and Loyalty become Situational, faked as necessary for the achievement of one's own goals. As I've said before, I often have trouble recognising younger men as even being men, for how often they act like backstabbing bitches, and how quickly they can turn on you if you're not providing them with their current narcissistic supply. I've been shocked at the lack of loyalty on here, or how quickly people are pounced upon. I've been confused at the huge impositions younger people ask of you, which, when complied with, usually mean some kind of distracted wandering-off when they understand it's going to involve something hard or uncomfortable (ie. masculine) on their part, preferring being comfortable (ie. effeminate).

- Without Moral Virtue, you'll see a rapid increase in Paganism. I've spoken before about the Toxic Thought Scene of the American West Coast that started seeding into Boomer's Heads in the 1970's. Most of what we're currently-fighting has its roots there. The works that came out of there - Feminism, Satanism, Nazi Occultism, Homosexuality, which were embraced by the socialist and pedophile Science Fiction community pop up again and again, every few years, like a Cancer.

Hell, there's a thread at the moment on the late 70's book 'The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind', a book I BURNT about ten weeks ago, when I burnt my Parent's sizable Occult Book collection. Why? Everything else in that collection was similarly-toxic, and it came out of the same scene. It pops up regularly, flogged by the Usual Satanic Suspects, Crowley fans, and Transhumanists. Go look at what's scratched into the inner groove of Bowie's 'Boy's Keep Swinging' single.

Note how Satanic or Supernatural fields such as Music, Television and Movies are. How often characters switch allegiances based upon what is what is personally-convenient. About five years ago, I started to realise most characters are now so repugnant because the Writers have no firm concept of Right or Wrong.

- Every time this has previously-happened in History, Democracy become Tyranny after first falling into Demagoguery. It's also a pattern on the Right: Trump, Milo, Peterson, Spencer, etc. All specialise in emotional appeals to your passions and prejudices, meaning, the Lower Faculties are being triggered. This is probably why any concerned criticism of them is met with a strangely-furious response. To criticise the man is to criticise the fan.

- You can't expect people who don't notice their own lack of virtue to notice that their Idols also lack it. As such, they'll follow any Leader who simply makes the people they hate look foolish, conforming to their pre-existing prejudices. You can see his happen on a micro-level on the forum fairly-regularly.

THIS WAS MY ERROR

I made a big error back in 2014 when I discussed how the Degenerate Triad of Symbolic, Emotional and Irrational thinking guaranteed the descent of the Left into a Fascist Mindset, who would see Violence against and Persecution of their enemies as Righteous.

I assumed the Right was virtuous by comparing it to the Left. No, it also follows Subjective Reality, which means, it is also Degenerate, it's just the manner in which disordered behaviour manifest itself varies. As such, the same Triad of Thought would arise, with the same results: Fascism. What will you morally-overlook to see your ideological enemies permanently-removed from the playing field?

WHAT THIS SUGGESTS

We've all been wrong. There isn't a coming battle. The final collapse of the Democratic US - amongst other nations - has already happened. As such, it's too late to stop it, because Demagoguery has already come to pass and the minds are already prepped for Fascism. Since most of the population lacks the Virtue to even now see the need to truly-reverse where we already are - only back up the position on the spiral a little bit - then all that can happen is either a slight easing off of the downward spiral, or a full acceleration into Tyranny.

Trump can't make America Great again. All he can do is make sure the Inevitable Descent into Tyranny falls on the side of the Right under the Emotional Banner of Patriotism, much like how England has already fallen to the Left under the Emotional Banner of Diversity.

You might sneer at Transgenders in Bathrooms, or Eight Year Old Drag Queens, but have you ever co-inhabited, jacked off, or, especially here, had pre-marital sex, without thinking the Moral Law Matters? If you've done this without repentance, then you've already chosen a Selective interpretation of Virtue, much as I've noted Homosexuals tend to do: every one I've met genuinely-thought they were of a Higher Morality than Christians.

I've been shouting down each little compromise my entire life to no avail I could never convince anyone that each molehill was a disguised mountain. That doesn't say I didn't choose my own compromises out of my own convenience and moral weakness, (I'm as big a Sinner as everyone else and now I can see that Tolerance is simply a form of Spiritual Cowardice). I voiced my own confusion a couple of years back, asking why everyone was only suddenly noticing now that there was a problem.

So, examine your thinking, and remember the Degenerate Triad.

GOING FORWARD

As Emotional States are encouraged, the childlike nature and moral blindness of the population can only get worse, the blacks growing blacker and the whites growing whiter, with no shades of grey remaining. Conflict is inevitable, though the fear of losing personal discomfort on both sides seems to be all that is holding it back for now, because, being realistic, the numbers of masculine men on either side who can fight this battle in such an effeminate society are small, and they're usually off doing Israel's dirty work overseas. Look at how pathetic-teenage FBI agents now apparently-are. All that can happen, for now, seems to be a culture war of Passive-Aggression, which is what Trump specialises in and is why I find him effeminate. (North Korea didn't happen because of bitchy tweets or Trump's negotiating skill - it happened because the US Military steath-bombed the North Korean nuclear test facility back into the stone age earlier this year, killing a big chunk of their scientists).

The Superhero movies fill a similar void to Trump here: they're Cartoons, written by unseen writers. They appear black and white, but - at least for now, though expect Marvel to double down soon enough and the broken morality of the writers to seep through - they still allow a Subjective Overlay by the viewer, to pretend that the Heroes are on their side when it suits their purposes. (See how both SJW's and Breitbart claimed the success of 'Black Panther' as a moral victory for their side, or how the Left grudgingly-praise Trump for those things that match their values).

WHAT YOU CAN DO

Amend your life, know God and get yourself under the protection of the Natural Law. These are times of Extraordinary Grace, and the Pushes and Consolations are evidencing around me constantly. Part of this seems to be preparing yourself to endure suffering - if you've had the Fasting Push, as so many around me have, trust in it. You're freeing yourself of Demonic Influence every time you tap into your Interior / Supernatural Life which operates on Reason, though, amusingly-enough, entering into it requires a huge leap of Faith. Every time you give into Passion, the SJW's win, particularly as they're living warning of what happens when you do submit to your passions excessively.

Men: get out and do something hard and uncomfortable on a regular basis, to increase your masculinity and to help you fulfill your role under the Law. If you have sons, make them get off the computer.

Choose your allegiances based upon High Standards of Virtue. I said, back in 2013, to find your tribe.

Either way, we've crested the top of the roller coaster. All we can do is hang on and be strong enough not to throw up.

With that, I sense my public business here has concluded. Godspeed, all.

[Rush87]

To be honest, I think I've lost just about all energy to read articles like this. The moment I see 'racial', 'privilege', 'woke', 'what you need to understand' I'm done.

I officially have no fucks left to give.

[kinjutsu]

(06-17-2018 10:25 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

The directors have said that she's the most powerful hero in the MCU - the bitch can literally move planets like the Silver Age Superman. Which begs the question, why wait to call her into action? Why let the Avengers, Wakandans and half of the universe die when you have a chick who could end it before it even started?

They've written themselves into a corner with Thanos.

Under normal circumstances I'd expect the writers and directors to finish up the story in avengers 4 with some fuckery along the level of superman and batman both having the same mothers names.
But, the writers and directors have proven themselves to not fuck everything up like DC films have done in the past.

[RawGod]

Is the word "dude" hatespeech? Seems that using the word "man" is too much for these harpies.

[questor70]

(06-18-2018 02:51 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Is the word "dude" hatespeech? Seems that using the word "man" is too much for these harpies.

Women don't realize it, but there is such a thing as womansplaining.

Mansplaining is just a synonym for condescending or patronizing.

Feminists do it to. It's ultimately a power-play for how to frame an issue and to try to control whether other people are entitled to think or feel differently.

I mean, hell, the whole title of a TV show is along this ilk, or at least makes you want to think it is to grab attention: "Dear White People".

It's all because people are living within their tribal silos but oh do they enjoy leaving the proverbial bag of dog feces on the doorstep of other groups they have a problem with.

In other words, it's one-sided or tit-for-tat communication.

The kind of active engagement like Jordan Peterson showing up in a panel is rare. Instead you get blog posts that are essentially rants or manifestos. In theory they're meant to be read by the other side but they are mostly just preaching to the converted. And let's be balanced here, red-pill blogs do this too. The internet is a series of public safe-spaces separated by demographics as people tend to stick to their own silo and then occasionally "invade" the other side and get tackled by ad hominems for expressing dissent (whether delivered sincerely or via trolling).

[Richard Turpin]

(06-18-2018 06:07 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 02:51 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Is the word "dude" hatespeech? Seems that using the word "man" is too much for these harpies.

Women don't realize it, but there is such a thing as womansplaining.

Mansplaining is just a synonym for condescending or patronizing.

Feminists do it to. It's ultimately a power-play for how to frame an issue and to try to control whether other people are entitled to think or feel differently.

I mean, hell, the whole title of a TV show is along this ilk, or at least makes you want to think it is to grab attention: "Dear White People".

It's all because people are living within their tribal silos but oh do they enjoy leaving the proverbial bag of dog feces on the doorstep of other groups they have a problem with.

In other words, it's one-sided or tit-for-tat communication.

The kind of active engagement like Jordan Peterson showing up in a panel is rare. Instead you get blog posts that are essentially rants or manifestos. In theory they're meant to be read by the other side but they are mostly just preaching to the converted. And let's be balanced here, red-pill blogs do this too. The internet is a series of public safe-spaces separated by demographics as people tend to stick to their own silo and then occasionally "invade" the other side and get tackled by ad hominems for expressing dissent (whether delivered sincerely or via trolling).

Great post. Totally agree. Although I don't feel there is a lot of parity between the silos; the MSM is so converged that red-pill blogs feel more like bunkers than silos!

[CynicalContrarian]

AnonymousBosch, I don't say this to disagree with you. Rather, to agree with you :

You don't replicate the fall of Rome by doing the righteous thing...

[Aurini]

(06-17-2018 10:40 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

THIS WAS MY ERROR

I made a big error back in 2014 when I discussed how the Degenerate Triad of Symbolic, Emotional and Irrational thinking guaranteed the descent of the Left into a Fascist Mindset, who would see Violence against and Persecution of their enemies as Righteous.

I assumed the Right was virtuous by comparing it to the Left. No, it also follows Subjective Reality, which means, it is also Degenerate, it's just the manner in which disordered behaviour manifest itself varies. As such, the same Triad of Thought would arise, with the same results: Fascism. What will you morally-overlook to see your ideological enemies permanently-removed from the playing field?

It was 2014 when I had my first view of this. That was when I first noticed the degenerate elements overtaking the online-right, gatherings who were more interested in emotional victories than strategic victories. People who rejected moral development, for emotional attacks against their enemies... and these groups vastly outnumbered the people who followed my work, or others who write in a similar vein.

I still believed that there was a way to chorale these forces into an upward direction; I wasted quite a bit of time trying to do good works in the online right, all of which was wasted.

"No civilization without a moral core." For the past couple of years I've been running the numbers through my head. How do we create an Alt Right movement, which isn't Richard Spencer attention whoring, and sacrificing his troops for emotional victories? How do we rebuild the culture of the White race, when most Whites are happy with their degeneracy? Each time I run the numbers through my head, I get the same answer: we don't.

Demagoguery and emotivism are the new normal. The only way to become a "leader" in today's world, is to dumb down the message to the point where it loses all meaning. The most I can do in the meanwhile, is use my platform to offer up useful information to the small number of men who aren't staring down into the mud.

In other words - stick a fork in her, she's done.

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WHAT YOU CAN DO

Amend your life, know God and get yourself under the protection of the Natural Law. These are times of Extraordinary Grace, and the Pushes and Consolations are evidencing around me constantly. Part of this seems to be preparing yourself to endure suffering - if you've had the Fasting Push, as so many around me have, trust in it. You're freeing yourself of Demonic Influence every time you tap into your Interior / Supernatural Life which operates on Reason, though, amusingly-enough, entering into it requires a huge leap of Faith. Every time you give into Passion, the SJW's win, particularly as they're living warning of what happens when you do submit to your passions excessively.

I would like to emphasize this. The number of Graces being offered right now are off the charts. The sort of stuff that would have required years of devotion in previous eras - they'll be granted to you off the bat.

This is becoming a dangerous time for anyone who's on God's side, and he wants us well armoured for the times that are to come. None of these fights are our fights; our fight is for our future, for our children, for our civilization's literature, and for the truth.

God bless.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

That is the first far left move of Marvel - more will come in the near future. They already announced that they are going to put in 2 transgender characters in the Spiderman movie and that the heroes that everyone hates in the SJW Marvel comics are coming in hard.

Captain Marvel also is set to replace Tony Stark as the "most popular hero" - you have to love her.

And don't forget the incident where she gaslights a TSA agent who deigned to ask for her number:





What position of power bitch? That bloke makes minimum wage while you are soon-to-be multi-millionaire actress with multiple deals. He had the balls to ask you out despite your status.

And now you accuse him of harassment under the guise of power? Marvel now hires feminazi cunts for fitting feminazi roles, because in the comics she is a full-on man-hating psycho.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-17-2018 10:40 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Choose your allegiances based upon High Standards of Virtue. I said, back in 2013, to find your tribe.

Either way, we've crested the top of the roller coaster. All we can do is hang on and be strong enough not to throw up.

With that, I sense my public business here has concluded. Godspeed, all.

I would be interested of what you think of this AB:

Jay has moved more into the Christian orthodoxy, but he mentions something which I have forgotten myself - that classical liberalism is already a disease that misses the underlying Christian ethical values.

That is why in the recent Freedom of Speech rallye with Sargon of Akkad, Tommy Robinson there came transgender speakers and singers who also did not want those "freedoms" gone.

The reality is that the past success of the Western nations was based on still iron-willed immutable Christian ethical guidelines. Yes - it was good to kick the churches out of science and power-struggles, but the ethics were still supporting that societal structure.

I remembered how I started first delving into Christian works deeper as I was 14, then found it all too unlikely. I moved to study of other major religions and found them lacking still. Ultimately I ended up with philosophy and major works - and contrary to what others do, I went to it's ultimate conclusion. We have no soul, we are matter, nothing matters, I could become a mass-murdering killer and torture cats for fun - it's all irrelevant. Never did I go through with it, but the reality is that classical liberalism bereft of a guiding absolute ethical guideline will end up in this.

I found a different spiritual path that has more in common with St. Francis and other saints - it satisfied me.

And I know now why I live so strongly in absolutes myself - because there is a line I would not cross - no matter the excuse given. I believe in something different to Christian lore of soul reincarnating, getting wiser over the millennia, but also having burned deep within the very ethics that are correct - following that deeply coded ethics will make you happier as a society while disobeying or convincing yourself of something else - that will make a society less happy and less healthy. I personally exchanged the Christian lore after the darkness of Atheist materialism with a different set of spiritual beliefs - also based on eternal understanding of ethics.

These are iron rules even if if social expressions vary - some societies live closer to those internal rules while others are farther away from it.

I don't think that it's a matter of a return of fascism or far-left tyranny and their genocide. The chaos that springs out of all of this was already based on old philosophies of classical liberalism - the current bunch forgetting that those philosophies were backed by people who believed in a strong nation state and a strong religious framework.

Sometimes entire tribes take centuries to arrive at a better system - some tribes take millennia. You cannot move this forward by getting a new passport. There is something that I would call individual consciousness vs group consciousness. As individuals we can sometimes reach states way beyond our group, but groups are a different beast - they can be manipulated into something very negative or led into something very positive. Often the changes of groups are not visible in the short term, but manifest itself over generations.

Ultimately there are no easy solutions - AB finds solace in individual spiritual achievement - the group experiences will go on with or without much of our doing.

[Tactician]

(06-17-2018 04:36 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

One thing being left unsaid is why superhero films are so big today. It's because movies are dumbed down. Has anyone stopped to think movie-goers now have the mentality of 5-year-olds?

When I was growing up, the big-deal films were much more intellectually interesting and (ahem!) diverse. We got great -- and popular -- romantic comedies, intense dramas, and even teen movies that doubled as morality plays.

Why do we not have hit films on the level of "When Harry Met Sally" or "Big" anymore? Two reasons: The American public itself has gotten stupider -- as recent IQ studies show. And Hollywood now tries to reach an international audience instead of a domestic one, so all verbiage is simplified.

So there irony here is that Brie Larson is actually making simplistic films for a simpleton audience -- hence her disdain for critics, many of whom remember the golden days of movies. It's not like we're getting "Kramer Vs. Kramer" from her or "Ordinary People" (or even a brilliantly cutting comic film like "Back To School").

And just in case anyone wants to bring up "Room:" It's exploitative "victim porn" for women. There was a film roughly like this in the '80s called "Flowers In The Attic" that was redone as a Lifetime Network TV movie. My guess is "Room" will see the same fate.

The only reason "Room" got any awards is because the Oscars today only recognize three movie ideas: 1). Abused women; 2). Enslaved blacks; 3). Anything having to do with the Holocaust.

Not to be confused with The Room

[CynicalContrarian]

Now for the craptastic trailer :

If only the like / unlike ratio wasn't going to be altered to propagandize the film...

[Richard Turpin]

(09-18-2018 07:51 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

If only the like / unlike ratio wasn't going to be altered to propagandize the film...

Well, I've just done what I can to address that.

I've been wrong before, but I really can't see this one doing very well. All the true comics fans are like battered wives at this point and just can't face another punch to the face. All that's left are the SJW weirdo ones and there's not enough of them to give this film legs.

Even comics fans (of which I am one) are sick of superhero movies at this point. You know what? This won't come as a surprise to many, but these characters actually work much, much better on paper! Bringing them to the big screen was novel and cool for a couple of years but all the time you had this nagging feeling that something wasn't quite right!;

Capt America? We can make him work, but we have to tone the costume way, way down and get rid of the wings on his helmet. So you end up with a militarised version of him; in the end he doesn't even wear his helmet or shield. He's just a soldier.

Hulk? No stretchy pants, also lets make him not quite as brightly green.

Wolverine? We can't cast him as being 5 foot tall, no way. Or that hairy. No way can we go with that costume. So you end up with a guy in a vest.

The Vulture? No way can we go with that costume. So he's a guy driving some space-age wings who is just a bit vulture-ish.

Batman just becomes a kevlar armoured martial artist with the tiniest ears you can get away with and no yellow bat symbol or utility belt and minimal cape action.

This was drove home when I was reading about the new Sony Spider-verse they are creating. Get this; after the Venom film (that hilariously isn't allowed to mention Spider-Man as Sony don't have the rights anymore!), they are doing Kraven, Black-Cat, Black Widow films. Even comics fans struggle to remember Kraven! Nobody will go to watch that. All without Spider-Man by the way as Marvel has the rights now.

I love Kraven the comics character. He's probably my favourite Spidey villain. But to make him 'realistic' they will have to dilute his style so much that what they end up with will be an abomination. Yes, those Leopard-skin leggings and open-chested Lion-Head waist-coat will have to go! They'd be better off not bothering.

But back to Captain Marvel. That costume is crap. She looks crap. One thing that's not crap however is Samuel L Jackson's bank balance! I mean, how rich must these phoned-in parts be making him! What a move that was back in the day to get involved in this garbage.

[Greyman]

[quote] (06-17-2018 07:08 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

[quote='Not a Second Hander' pid='1803174' dateline='1529276945']
Being a big movie fan and understanding most I know about American culture through them, I think something happened in America around 2008-2011 that has massively shifted the culture there.

Now each decade got it's quirks but when I watch movies from the 50s all the way up until say the mid 2000s there is a gradual consistent kind of change in the general atmosphere (not the right word I was looking for)

When I get to around 2008-2011 I notice a MASSIVE change in culture, values, mood and general ethos. Does anybody know why? Recession? Obama's election? TV series absorbing all the talent? Is it just a Hollywood thing or symptomatic and reflective of the society at large?[/quote]

A stab at it with an axiom.

Ernest Hemingway’s 1926 novel, The Sun Also Rises...

How do you go (morally) bankrupt?
Two Ways...Gradually, and then suddenly.

Sitting here writting in personal journal pages I'll probably never read or show the LTR or family members of the philosophical arguments regarding my overwhelming anger in my head that keeps me up at night.

Ya'all are laughably, thankfully, the only outlet I feel I have to express myself. I mean that not disrespectfully, but with the hard reality of not having many men in this day in age to extrapolate hard arguments and tough topics in my quest for more self awareness and truth.

Hollywood (movies) are but a reflection of societies image of itself, yes? Well, apparently *most/all live in a fuxking fantasy world. No shit right?? Mmmmm this koolade is GOOD....?! flol.

I'm looked at funny when I muse... that altho I've been to many third world shitholes and absolutely DON'T want that mentality here (in my house, neighborhood, country....etc) ...hitting the big reset button may just be the only way to regain balance to a culture far too Romanesque for it to ever turn around peacefully...God help us.

[questor70]

SJW aside (A her-o, get it? get it??? it's woke, bruh...) the problem is Brie Larson has zero and I mean ZERO screen presence.

Compare this with Wonder Woman. Gal Gadot isn't a very good actress but she has screen presence, that joie de vivre, despite her figure not matching Lynda Carter. But when you have Brie Larson who has no charisma AND no ass, that's a bad combination.

This role was horribly miscast and the only reason to see it will be de-aged Samual L Jackson who is worth watching even when he's phoning it in.

[DarkTriad]

(06-17-2018 09:59 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

"I do not need a 70-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about ‘[A] Wrinkle in Time.’ It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial."

Why is it women are always trying to get rid of the white "dudes" who are critics or writers, but they never go after the ones who build their sets, rig the lighting, invent the special effects, do the editing, or run security?

If white "dudes" have to go, they ALL have to go. That means no leaning on white guys when you have a tech issue and no calling white men at odd hours when equipment breaks down.

And if your car breaks down on the way to the premiere, no calling white tow truck drivers or mechanics.

As for her CLICHED word "dude," it's now gotten to the point that when white hipster women use it, it has the connotation of "slave," since these women clearly think they're of a superior breed.

All it would take to destroy society would be for white "dudes" to go on strike for a few weeks during a major power outage in a metropolitan area. After everything was looted and nearly every woman was assaulted, bitches like this would be crying for white "dudes" (like that old bat on the subway who was featured on a different thread).

They did a movie "A Day Without a Mexican" they should do a similar one called ""A Day without a White Man". Include every device invented by a white man that suddenly doesn't work., and the world devolving into Lord of Flies with 24 hours.

[questor70]

(09-18-2018 10:08 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

They did a movie "A Day Without a Mexican" they should do a similar one called ""A Day without a White Man". Include every device invented by a white man that suddenly doesn't work., and the world devolving into Lord of Flies with 24 hours.

Would it look like this then?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/201...ale-remake

If we get real female lord of the flies then the SJWs can brag that they can tear at eachother's throats just as brutally as men can. That's "progress" for you.

[bbgun]

[MikeS]

(09-18-2018 08:20 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 07:51 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

If only the like / unlike ratio wasn't going to be altered to propagandize the film...

Well, I've just done what I can to address that.

I've been wrong before, but I really can't see this one doing very well. All the true comics fans are like battered wives at this point and just can't face another punch to the face. All that's left are the SJW weirdo ones and there's not enough of them to give this film legs.

Even comics fans (of which I am one) are sick of superhero movies at this point. You know what? This won't come as a surprise to many, but these characters actually work much, much better on paper! ...

Avengers Infinity War and Black Panther (which was a bit better than I had expected) were major box office hits, the biggest of the Marvel movies so far, and while most of the new DC movies certainly seem to fare a lot worse both in terms of profit and reception, it doesn't really look to me like Marvel is losing steam yet.

Might happen when they supposedly wrap up the... are they calling it "phase 1" (that started with the first Iron Man back in 2008)?... and start replacing all the actors who have made most of the MCU movies range from decent to great (yes, I know there are bound to be people around who hate all of them, that's fine of course - I haven't read comic books since I was a kid around 30 years ago, but I have enjoyed many of the MCU movies, with the first Guardians of the Galaxy being my favourite).

Maybe once that wrap up has happened with the Avengers movie next year they will start pushing the SJW agenda harder. Perhaps the next Tony Stark will be Toni, a wheelchair bound transconfused Antifa supporter. And Captain America will probably be axed, he's surely a dangerously patriotic symbol.