[Hegemon1984]

What's up gentlemen.

Alright, so I work at a clinic and got this cute, 26 y/o girl's phone number yesterday an hour or so after checking her in. After getting off work, I decided to wait 5-6 hours to text her back (at 11pm MST) and this is the following conversation I had with her:

Me: "Hey [name], it's Adam from the clinic... save my number."

Her: "Ok I have it."

Me: "Hey, are you free Saturday night? Let's meet up for a drink."

Her: "Hey! So I actually may be going camping with some friends this weekend, but I'm not sure yet. I can tell you for sure tomorrow and then if not then yes."

Me: "Sure, no problem."

[Next day]

Her: "Hey! So I am going camping this weekend but maybe we could get coffee or something after work one day next week?"

Me: "Yeah, that works. How about Thursday afternoon?"

Her: "That works for me!"

Me: "Cool. See you there."

So that's it. I consider myself somewhere between beginner and intermediate game, as I can get a few phone numbers a week... at work alone (Thank God for Models and Bang). However, I need some advice on text game - how I can be more attractive - and advice on the date on Thursday.

[torridon747]

Newbie section would be better suited for this thread; and even better the "what should I text next" thread or player's lounge.

I wouldn't be getting client's numbers if I were you. Doesn't sound like a good deal, but if you're ready to deal with the repercussions (girls knowing where you work, complaints, possible termination and bad reputation in your field) or it getting messy than by all means keep doing it. Your call, you're a man after all.

The context of your initial interaction would help but it sounds like she's not comfortable getting drinks with you for whatever reason. The dominant language was a good move "lets meet up...", "sure, no problem". I use text to build comfort but a lot of people here will suggest only using it for logistics and in a perfect world they would be right, girl should be comfortable with you before you number close. Moving forward though.

Coffee is just about as non-sexual and non-threatening as it can possibly get. What are your goals here? Slow burn 2-3 date bang kind of thing? That's probably your best option. Find some stuff in common, let her do most of the talking. Make her laugh, touch her arm. Do some compliance testing half-way through your date "hand me this" or "move your chair next to mine" or "give me your hand" (read her palm, or talk about how you can tell a lot by someones hands, whatever just see if she's complient and touch her hand). If she trusts and respects you she'll do it, if she gives pushback ease off and keep building. Even though it's just a coffee date I would still try to bounce her to lunch or another cool place based on your common interests. Your pad would be the most bold, a walk in the park would be the safest.

Most importantly man just don't take it too seriously, it's just one girl on a coffee date. Think about what you want and how to get it. Seems like you just want to impress her for some reason (know anything about this girl?) as you didn't state your intentions in your post. Do you want to fuck her cuz she's bad as fuck and your horny? Do you want to feel her out and see if she's chill first? There's no shame in either, it's all about what you want.

If it were me I would go heavy on the kino after establishing basic niceties and dialogue, try to bounce her to somewhere scenic or somewhere you have rep that's close to your house then lay some bait about your pad based on some common interest and get her over, then do basic escalation and try for the notch. I'm impatient though and don't like to waste time.

[Hegemon1984]

(02-03-2018 10:18 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

Newbie section would be better suited for this thread; and even better the "what should I text next" thread or player's lounge.

I wouldn't be getting client's numbers if I were you. Doesn't sound like a good deal, but if you're ready to deal with the repercussions (girls knowing where you work, complaints, possible termination and bad reputation in your field) or it getting messy than by all means keep doing it. Your call, you're a man after all.

The context of your initial interaction would help but it sounds like she's not comfortable getting drinks with you for whatever reason. The dominant language was a good move "lets meet up...", "sure, no problem". I use text to build comfort but a lot of people here will suggest only using it for logistics and in a perfect world they would be right, girl should be comfortable with you before you number close. Moving forward though.

Coffee is just about as non-sexual and non-threatening as it can possibly get. What are your goals here? Slow burn 2-3 date bang kind of thing? That's probably your best option. Find some stuff in common, let her do most of the talking. Make her laugh, touch her arm. Do some compliance testing half-way through your date "hand me this" or "move your chair next to mine" or "give me your hand" (read her palm, or talk about how you can tell a lot by someones hands, whatever just see if she's complient and touch her hand). If she trusts and respects you she'll do it, if she gives pushback ease off and keep building. Even though it's just a coffee date I would still try to bounce her to lunch or another cool place based on your common interests. Your pad would be the most bold, a walk in the park would be the safest.

Most importantly man just don't take it too seriously, it's just one girl on a coffee date. Think about what you want and how to get it. Seems like you just want to impress her for some reason (know anything about this girl?) as you didn't state your intentions in your post.

Ah, yes, I should have stated my intentions.

The woman in question is a traveling physical therapist and is planning to travel to Phoenix, AZ in two weeks. She has a history of depression after her boyfriend of 8 months broke up with her (lol! ). So, unless a miracle occurs, and she manages to stay in my city any longer, I need to aim for a same-day bang... unless she's trying to turn me into a boyfriend.

I don't know her intentions.

I just wanna smash.

[torridon747]

Edited my post a little bit.

Alright cool.

Quote:

If it were me I would go heavy on the kino after establishing basic niceties and dialogue, try to bounce her to somewhere scenic or somewhere you have rep that's close to your house then lay some bait about your pad based on some common interest and get her over, then do basic escalation and try for the notch.

Do that with the added nuance of

She's apprehensive about meeting you for drinks and you allowed her to lead by suggesting coffee. Recover by leading the coffee interaction and be as charming as you possibly can. Coffee to bang is a difficult escalation but it can be done, i've done it. Logistics have to be tight as fuck. Try to establish a push/pull rhythm as early as possible. You do this by teasing her after she's comfortable, building comfort when she is uncomfortable, etc etc. Maybe some other members can chime in to help you further.

[Dulceácido]

Frame.... This will require lots and lots of frame. You've already buckled a little bit, not too bad, nothing you can't recover from.

Red flags: "traveling physical therapist". Emotional wreck from a recent break-up.... Not ready to go out with you on the spot=not enough attraction. Ugh. 8 months is NOT a "history of depression," that's just depression. Everyone gets depressed. Clinical depression is way different. Be careful with your labels.

If I were in your situation, I'd let it go, OR, I'd try to do some strong text game. That means, don't text her very much at all,do not text her every five minutes. Make your texts count. Make them rare. Be funny. Keep it light. Remember, "you have an abundance, so this chick is not important." Do cocky-cool. Push-pull. Don't make her your mission. Be ready to bail and quit perving on chicks that come into your clinic. Work is work. Go play somewhere else if you value your job.

[ItalianStallion9]

Is coffee suggestion considered the 'beta' zone? Been getting a few 'let's grab coffee this weekend' offers...but feel like it never has the potential of a dinner.

[Noir]

Get her into the mindset which made her give you her number and then push for the date. Flirt, be playful and make the most of her attention via text.

Most guys rush to push for a date because they're impatient, scared of rejection, not bothered to text, many reasons.

You have to build up sexual tension to get her back into the state of mind of wanting to see you. Especially if there are other guys on her phone.

[torridon747]

@Hegemon1984

Update?

[Hegemon1984]

(02-08-2018 01:00 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

@Hegemon1984

Update?

Hey, I literally texted her a few seconds ago. Here's the following conversation:

Me: "Hey. Are you still free tonight? Let's grab some coffee. I know a cool place in Yuma."

Her: "I have really bad news; I forgot that I have work dinner tonight. Would tomorrow work?"

I haven't texted her back yet, I'm debating my next move.

Also, I'm giving this girl one final chance to not flake out on me. If she does, she's gone. I'm working on getting 10 numbers on Saturday via day game - and I don't have time to focus on a single girl.

[torridon747]

She did suggest tomorrow which is better than nothing. But you weren't important enough to warrant her telling you something had came up preemptively. Weak lead, if you got better stuff do to do it. She's not putting a lot of value on you or your time I don't see why you should her/hers.

I'd ghost her for a day or two then be like "Hey it got crazy busy but I'm doing this [bitch bait fun thing] tomorrow you should come join me".

[Dulceácido]

There are no cool places in Yuma.

[Hegemon1984]

Yeah, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon after work. I'll figure out something fun to do, but if she doesn't respond back, no worries. However, as Dulceácido pointed out, Yuma, AZ is a mid-sized city without many fun things to do.

[Dulceácido]

Went to Free-Fall school there. Horrible place.

[torridon747]

Even better, you can be the fun thing to do in Yuma, be creative. There's all kinds of stuff to do in my city i gotta compete with.

[Dulceácido]

Do something off the hook. Don't go to coffee or go for a brew. Go feed ducks at a park.

[ksbms]

Guys, stop this mindset you need to be creative and impress the girl. This is gimmick game and is still immersed in blue pill, beta attitude. What it communicates is "I'm not good enough who I am, I need to use a bait, for she won't like me". All you should bring to a date is YOU. You select a venue based on LOGISTICS only, not because it's trendy, has flashy cocktails, 3 clowns juggling balls or best coffee in this part of the county. Girls smell it out you try to set up this little trap to persuade her to buy your offer akin to sleazy car salesman throwing in at the last minute extras that don't really matter to you and you get this gut feeling he's just desperate for comission only.

The key to a girl's mind and pussy is to activate her excitement mode about having sex with you. You are the adventure. Don't delegate fun to things outside you to provide it. She needs to feel that were you both sitting sipping shitty coffee in MacDonalds, she'd have the best date right there the whole year.

[birthday cat]

(02-04-2018 04:24 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Get her into the mindset which made her give you her number and then push for the date. Flirt, be playful and make the most of her attention via text.

Most guys rush to push for a date because they're impatient, scared of rejection, not bothered to text, many reasons.

You have to build up sexual tension to get her back into the state of mind of wanting to see you. Especially if there are other guys on her phone.

I agree with Noir even if it is just one or two short texts.

Stop asking so many questions.

Don't do this: "Hey, are you free Saturday night? Let's meet up for a drink."

Do this: "We should meet up for drinks this weekend." or "Let's meet up for a drink this weekend."

Don't ever ask "are you still available". Text her the day before with the plans.

I don't think I would avoid her because of her rescheduling if she is leaving soon. She knows it's just one date and possible sex. She can get that from any guy so you aren't a high priority but if you get her to show up then there are goods odds that she will bang.

A lot of guys hate coffee dates. I guess it depends on several factors but I like to start at a coffee shop and then move to another place which might be for drinks. I can understand that it might be easier for less experienced guys to plan to meet for drinks though. I usually tell them something like we will meet in an area are on a street that area "has a lot of coffee shops and bars so there are a few options".