[balistik12345]

I'm not sure how the slang term came to be but I first heard a girl referred to as a lizard from rapper Too $hort from the track called Freaky Tales from "Born to Mack" released in 1987

"I knew another freak, her name was Candy
Real big lips and they came in handy
I smooth got worked and it was so dandy
I hooked the brood up with my homeboy Randy
He did me a favor in return
Gave me a lizard, said her name was Laverne"

You can find it on youtube. I cant post links yet.

[Gmac]

(09-18-2011 02:07 PM)torontokid Wrote:  

(09-18-2011 01:21 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Its all Momas fault!

He is a one man slang term creating army!

No one else on this forum has ever created their own slang and had it successfully catch on.

Yep. Its just a fun term and I don't read into it at all. There's nothing wrong with spicing up everyday vocab.

[Fujiwara]

Is it really just new Moma forum slang?

In the 90s, Miami-bass genre rap group No Good & Jiggie released a record called Lizard Lizard. It was their debut LP released by Luther Campbell's (aka Luke aka Uncle Luke) Luke record label. The big single from that album was the title track, which has a chorus of the rappers calling, "Here Lizard, Lizard!" There was a music video released with it, featuring Uncle Luke, and here even a deaf man can figure out what the reference was.

The video was taking place at a mansion in Miami, at a big daytime summer bash. Pools, barbecue, super soakers, Slip-N-Slides, and lots of people including video hoes in bikinis, duh. As the rappers explore the premises and chase these hoes, he sees some of them morph into lizards once they believe they aren't being watched. They are in shock, try to find out how and when they turn back into that beautiful bitch that they saw in the first time.

Now my description of the video is based off a memory from my childhood. I was probably in third or fourth grade when I caught this video on The Box. My mom walked in the room, saw the video, and promptly turned the TV off. But I do remember that in the video, female=lizard.

Since then, I have heard the song a few times, and seen the video once a few years ago. Unfortunately, I was not able to find it on Youtube to simply link the forum to. Best I could find was a Amazon preview, available at this link without the spaces (amazon. com/Lizard-No-Good-N-Jiggie/dp/B00000DFSS). Go to the track listing and listen to track 5, and then listen to track 14.

This is the etymology of the slang term "Lizard" that I was believing, anyway. I wonder if Moma has ever heard the song or seen the video. I wonder where No Good & Jiggie learned the term... and I also wonder if it did originate here in Miami! Hm...

Note the album art.

Fujiwara

[Spike]

(09-18-2011 03:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I found the term strange and quite derogatory (not that it's too bad, given the context). I prefer just "girl" or "woman".

Me too. I think its degrading towards girls to use words like ho's bitches,whores or lizards.

Not judging here , to each his own.

[el mechanico]

Ok Moma! Are you gonna come clean on this?

[satanova77]

I like the term. Its sounds cool.
But the value of it comes from the fact that it dehumanizes whores a little bit. Calling every woman lizard even the ones you are emotionally getting attached to or care for, ensures that you keep them in their place and never on a pedestal. I have introduced it to 5-6 close friends and now in every day talk to call them Lizards. And evertime someone tries to say something emotional about a girl they are fucking, I just say remember after all she is just a lizard.

[Caligula]

It reminds me of the term lounge lizard (which refers to men) from the title of classic video game Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards.

It was my first introduction to pickup at age 7 or 8 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure_Sui...ge_Lizards

[Basil Ransom]

(09-19-2011 12:43 PM)Fujiwara Wrote:  

Is it really just new Moma forum slang?

In the 90s, Miami-bass genre rap group No Good & Jiggie released a record called Lizard Lizard. It was their debut LP released by Luther Campbell's (aka Luke aka Uncle Luke) Luke record label. The big single from that album was the title track, which has a chorus of the rappers calling, "Here Lizard, Lizard!" There was a music video released with it, featuring Uncle Luke, and here even a deaf man can figure out what the reference was.

The video was taking place at a mansion in Miami, at a big daytime summer bash. Pools, barbecue, super soakers, Slip-N-Slides, and lots of people including video hoes in bikinis, duh. As the rappers explore the premises and chase these hoes, he sees some of them morph into lizards once they believe they aren't being watched. They are in shock, try to find out how and when they turn back into that beautiful bitch that they saw in the first time.

Paging Patrick Bateman, Paging... Imagined Bateman saying this, started laughing.

[ManAbout]

Lizards are ugly, creepy creatures.

Calling a girl a reptile or a lizard just sounds plain dumb.

[Moma]

(09-19-2011 01:30 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(09-18-2011 03:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I found the term strange and quite derogatory (not that it's too bad, given the context). I prefer just "girl" or "woman".

Me too. I think its degrading towards girls to use words like ho's bitches,whores or lizards.

Not judging here , to each his own.

I like lizards. So it's a term of endearment. And not all women are nice. So it's important not to cupcake the entire movement.

[Moma]

(09-19-2011 12:43 PM)Fujiwara Wrote:  

Is it really just new Moma forum slang?

In the 90s, Miami-bass genre rap group No Good & Jiggie released a record called Lizard Lizard. It was their debut LP released by Luther Campbell's (aka Luke aka Uncle Luke) Luke record label. The big single from that album was the title track, which has a chorus of the rappers calling, "Here Lizard, Lizard!" There was a music video released with it, featuring Uncle Luke, and here even a deaf man can figure out what the reference was.

The video was taking place at a mansion in Miami, at a big daytime summer bash. Pools, barbecue, super soakers, Slip-N-Slides, and lots of people including video hoes in bikinis, duh. As the rappers explore the premises and chase these hoes, he sees some of them morph into lizards once they believe they aren't being watched. They are in shock, try to find out how and when they turn back into that beautiful bitch that they saw in the first time.

Now my description of the video is based off a memory from my childhood. I was probably in third or fourth grade when I caught this video on The Box. My mom walked in the room, saw the video, and promptly turned the TV off. But I do remember that in the video, female=lizard.

Since then, I have heard the song a few times, and seen the video once a few years ago. Unfortunately, I was not able to find it on Youtube to simply link the forum to. Best I could find was a Amazon preview, available at this link without the spaces (amazon. com/Lizard-No-Good-N-Jiggie/dp/B00000DFSS). Go to the track listing and listen to track 5, and then listen to track 14.

This is the etymology of the slang term "Lizard" that I was believing, anyway. I wonder if Moma has ever heard the song or seen the video. I wonder where No Good & Jiggie learned the term... and I also wonder if it did originate here in Miami! Hm...

Note the album art.

Fujiwara

Never seen this song nor heard the video. I do know of Luke however, I would have given a nut to attend one of his concerts in the 90's. Big butt hos for days.

[Pusscrook]

(09-19-2011 02:29 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Lizards are ugly, creepy creatures.

Calling a girl a reptile or a lizard just sounds plain dumb.

Plain dumb? calling a woman a bitch ( a dog in heat) sounds like what to you? Everyone in this forum knows he doesn't mean they are reptiles, so, what's the big to do about? When you get tired of reading the word lizard in his post, read some of mine, since for me they are all WHORES. Better yet, Lizard Whores.

Pusscrook

[ManAbout]

(09-19-2011 06:43 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Plain dumb? calling a woman a bitch ( a dog in heat) sounds like what to you? Everyone in this forum knows he doesn't mean they are reptiles, so, what's the big to do about? When you get tired of reading the word lizard in his post, read some of mine, since for me they are all WHORES. Better yet, Lizard Whores.

Pusscrook

He has a right to his opinion. And I have a right to mine.

Do you have a problem with that?

[Pusscrook]

(09-19-2011 08:20 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(09-19-2011 06:43 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Plain dumb? calling a woman a bitch ( a dog in heat) sounds like what to you? Everyone in this forum knows he doesn't mean they are reptiles, so, what's the big to do about? When you get tired of reading the word lizard in his post, read some of mine, since for me they are all WHORES. Better yet, Lizard Whores.

Pusscrook

He has a right to his opinion. And I have a right to mine.

Do you have a problem with that?

Come up with a word.."Lady, madame, love, precious,wife,whore, slut,LIZARD, whatever it is, we will all welcome you with open arms.

Pusscrook

[ManAbout]

(09-19-2011 08:24 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Come up with a word.."Lady, madame, love, precious,wife,whore, slut,LIZARD, whatever it is, we will all welcome you with open arms.

Pusscrook

Who died and left you in charge?

I don't remember anyone nominating you as the "official welcomer".

"We will all welcome you".. LOL.

[mycleverid]

(09-19-2011 02:34 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I like lizards. So it's a term of endearment. And not all women are nice. So it's important not to cupcake the entire movement.

So, you're going to have a custom greeting cards made up for her birthday that says, "To my number one lizard, on her nineteenth birthday . . ."?

Bullshit.

This whole thing, this movement as you are wont to call it, is about self-improvement. There's nothing that improves you as a man in calling women lizards. If you have to talk down to women or about women, then you don't have any game.

Having game is about validating something women want to do, but are relentlessly shamed into not doing. All women want to fuck. All women want to fuck quality men. Why do we need to talk shit about them for this?

Do you really need your woman to be inferior before you can get your dick up?

Being classified as a player is bad enough as it is. We don't need to make it worse by linking it to stereotypes of woman-hating average frustrated chumps.

[Lumiere]

I think we have all forgotten the important lessons we all learnt from compliment and cuddle game.

If we are inventing new words for women I suggest the following - snookie, diddums, cupcake, princess, queen, light of my life, reason for living, prescious. Things like that.

Feel free to add your own.

[afronoob]

(09-17-2011 03:37 PM)mycleverid Wrote:  

No, it's not an American thing.

The only real usage of "lizard" applied to women I've ever heard aloud in the US is in trucker-speak they refer to the hookers who roam the truckstops as "lot lizards".

I'm assuming the usage here is someone trying to create a pejorative for women in general. Remember, there are a lot of low self-esteem guys lurking at the periphery of game.

I see no point in referring to women in the pejorative. I like women. To me this is sort of like when we get into slut shaming. I mean, come the fuck on. Empower women to do things our way, not tear them down.

REEEAAALLLLYY! Personally,its all good-ho/slut/bitch/girl or woman but I find your US trucker etymology interesting. You have a Stephen Hunteresque pace in the dialogue of your Europe travel report ,btw but please break down the italicised bit.

[Yams]

Yea I don't see the connection between women and reptiles so am I not going to use the term 'lizard'. When I talk to my friends, bitch will still suffice.

Also Luther Campbell got the idea for his video from a Taco Bell commercial:

[Moma]

(09-19-2011 09:46 PM)mycleverid Wrote:  

(09-19-2011 02:34 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I like lizards. So it's a term of endearment. And not all women are nice. So it's important not to cupcake the entire movement.

So, you're going to have a custom greeting cards made up for her birthday that says, "To my number one lizard, on her nineteenth birthday . . ."?

Bullshit.

This whole thing, this movement as you are wont to call it, is about self-improvement. There's nothing that improves you as a man in calling women lizards. If you have to talk down to women or about women, then you don't have any game.

Having game is about validating something women want to do, but are relentlessly shamed into not doing. All women want to fuck. All women want to fuck quality men. Why do we need to talk shit about them for this?

Do you really need your woman to be inferior before you can get your dick up?

Being classified as a player is bad enough as it is. We don't need to make it worse by linking it to stereotypes of woman-hating average frustrated chumps.

Not being wrong, mate but you sound like a simp to me. You need a lot of work to be done on the inside. You don't know my background so you have no idea of what I consider a term of endearment. If I say it's a term of endearment then that's that, you cannot tell me what I define as a term of endearment.

I see nothing wrong with being a 'player'. To still feel that being successful with the opposite sex is wrong means you have some MAJOR de-programming to do. You still seem to be under the yoke of matriarchal thinking and you can NEVER graduate into manhood until you shed that nonsense.

I DO NOT hate women. Read over my posts carefully before bundling me in with your ASS-umptions.


They are lizards. Like it or lump it, if you don't get with the program now, you are going to sitting on a doorstep somewhere crying and nursing a beer after discovering that you did not learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff properly i.e wifeying a snake instead of a lizard.

Any other questions of clarity, don't hesitate to ask.

From Moma (Man after Many Amphibians) aka Lizard Hunter.

[Pusscrook]

(09-20-2011 08:37 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-19-2011 09:46 PM)mycleverid Wrote:  

(09-19-2011 02:34 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I like lizards. So it's a term of endearment. And not all women are nice. So it's important not to cupcake the entire movement.

So, you're going to have a custom greeting cards made up for her birthday that says, "To my number one lizard, on her nineteenth birthday . . ."?

Bullshit.

This whole thing, this movement as you are wont to call it, is about self-improvement. There's nothing that improves you as a man in calling women lizards. If you have to talk down to women or about women, then you don't have any game.

Having game is about validating something women want to do, but are relentlessly shamed into not doing. All women want to fuck. All women want to fuck quality men. Why do we need to talk shit about them for this?

Do you really need your woman to be inferior before you can get your dick up?

Being classified as a player is bad enough as it is. We don't need to make it worse by linking it to stereotypes of woman-hating average frustrated chumps.

Not being wrong, mate but you sound like a simp to me. You need a lot of work to be done on the inside. You don't know my background so you have no idea of what I consider a term of endearment. If I say it's a term of endearment then that's that, you cannot tell me what I define as a term of endearment.

I see nothing wrong with being a 'player'. To still feel that being successful with the opposite sex is wrong means you have some MAJOR de-programming to do. You still seem to be under the yoke of matriarchal thinking and you can NEVER graduate into manhood until you shed that nonsense.

I DO NOT hate women. Read over my posts carefully before bundling me in with your ASS-umptions.


They are lizards. Like it or lump it, if you don't get with the program now, you are going to sitting on a doorstep somewhere crying and nursing a beer after discovering that you did not learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff properly i.e wifeying a snake instead of a lizard.

Any other questions of clarity, don't hesitate to ask.

From Moma (Man after Many Amphibians) aka Lizard Hunter.

"Down goes Frazier, down goes Frazier" ....+2 for moma..heheheh

[satanova77]

Another reason I love the term is I used to shoot lizards with a BB gun as a 10 year old...now i shoot them with a bazooka emitting white scud missiles that temporarily blinds them....and then they run around looking for a towel or kleenex just like the wounded lizards back in the day falling off the walls and running around with their tails cut off....

[Fujiwara]

(09-19-2011 02:24 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

(09-19-2011 12:43 PM)Fujiwara Wrote:  

Is it really just new Moma forum slang?

In the 90s, Miami-bass genre rap group No Good & Jiggie released a record called Lizard Lizard. It was their debut LP released by Luther Campbell's (aka Luke aka Uncle Luke) Luke record label. The big single from that album was the title track, which has a chorus of the rappers calling, "Here Lizard, Lizard!" There was a music video released with it, featuring Uncle Luke, and here even a deaf man can figure out what the reference was.

The video was taking place at a mansion in Miami, at a big daytime summer bash. Pools, barbecue, super soakers, Slip-N-Slides, and lots of people including video hoes in bikinis, duh. As the rappers explore the premises and chase these hoes, he sees some of them morph into lizards once they believe they aren't being watched. They are in shock, try to find out how and when they turn back into that beautiful bitch that they saw in the first time.

Paging Patrick Bateman, Paging... Imagined Bateman saying this, started laughing.

LOL I'll take that as a compliment.

[mycleverid]

Truth be told, this is where I drop out of the conversation. I've already learned that people who game play the "make your own reality" thing to the hilt and are borderline retarded when asked to consider some other worldview. So, I hate to drop out of a conversation with this gem, but . . .

Whatever, guys. Enjoy your reptile pussy. Thanks for taking a little of the shine off the only PUA forum I can stand.

I'll play my favorite game card now: walk away.

[Pusscrook]

(09-20-2011 11:41 AM)mycleverid Wrote:  

Truth be told, this is where I drop out of the conversation. I've already learned that people who game play the "make your own reality" thing to the hilt and are borderline retarded when asked to consider some other worldview. So, I hate to drop out of a conversation with this gem, but . . .

Whatever, guys. Enjoy your reptile pussy. Thanks for taking a little of the shine off the only PUA forum I can stand.

I'll play my favorite game card now: walk away.

awwww.