[Kona]

(09-08-2017 05:07 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

OK. Let's do some good.

I own at least 5 portable generators I am willing to part with. If any forum dude needs one, you send me a message. I don't know how quick the airfreight will be with the storm, but we can work it out. I got two little Hondas within eyeshot right now.

Aloha!

[IveBeenFramed]

It looks like the cold front has finally stalled. How this impacts Irma? I'm thinking it could go further west than forecast, meaning it rolls up the west coast of Florida and makes an "official" landfall around the Pensacola area:



http://www.intellicast.com/National/Surf...imate=true

How the storm weakens and how fast it does is of more importance now, IMO.



http://www.intellicast.com/National/Surf...ast48.aspx

[Once Was Not]

Right now the keys are forecast to get hit by a cat 5 with 160mph winds. I was watching the southernmost point webcam periodically today and saw consistent appearances of people, women, children, vehicles, bikes. Think what you want, but those people could all be dead soon. At the very least they have a death wish. I feel bad for any kids that rolled a gutterball for a parent that would keep them in the path of total destruction. The evacuation was mandatory.

edit: of course they could have simply left afterwards, but I didn't see a single trace of urgency in any of their body language, totally normal nothing wrong chill attitudes, like they had no idea what is coming

[Reese1228]

I'm in Brevard county right on the beach. Gusty now. Looks like it's going to smoke the west coast.

[Leonard D Neubache]

It's difficult to imagine how people would have viewed these rare events prior to the scientific method.

The only reasonable explanation would be vengeful gods, and afterward the survivors would only be able to think about how to appease those gods so such a thing never happened again.

[911]

Len, I think you underestimate the ancients' capacity to interpret their natural environment, and the wisdom, and vast body of knowledge transmitted from past generations. Polynesians for instance had superior navigating skills, capable of detecting the presence of very distant islands by picking up subtle wave patterns.

Massive, generalized looting reported in many heavily impacted islands like the Franco-Dutch St Martin, where up to 60% of the housing stock has been wiped out. Irma knocked off the main desalination plant, so there is going to be a water shortage for the next couple of months.

[Lime]

St Maarten after it was hit by the eye of the then force 5 hurricane:

[Leonard D Neubache]

I don't know why I feel worse for the boats than the people.

[Vicious]

(09-06-2017 08:54 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I am is South Beach and shit here is , for lack of a better term , tense. I usually party through hurricanes, but all the bitches have left or are leaving-The only popping places are the gas station and the stores that carry water.

Bust our a gas station data sheet!

[Atlanta Man]

I just got to Atlanta and I am at my mom's house, I would like to make a few observations:
1)Gas was readily available all the way up the turnpike
2) A lot of military and heavy equipment was going south, there looked to be thousands of uniformed solders and hundreds of support vehicles-I have to admit it was an impressive amount of manpower and equipment .
3)I have never seen a large scale evacuation like this, at least 2 million South Floridians leaving all at once-it looked like people fleeing a zombie apocalypse.
4)All the hotels in Atlanta are booked and all the motels on the way up were also booked.
5)There were a lot of U Hauls where people packed up their house and left Florida
6)SOBE was Dead with a ghost town feel at 1:30pm Thursday- I hope everyone got out.

[deuce]

(09-07-2017 03:42 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

people are trying to catch a ride with me to Atlanta

Cash, grass, or ass...nobody rides for free

[Kona]

(09-08-2017 09:57 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

It's difficult to imagine how people would have viewed these rare events prior to the scientific method.

The only reasonable explanation would be vengeful gods, and afterward the survivors would only be able to think about how to appease those gods so such a thing never happened again.

Well certain people still blame these hurricanes on some pretty odd things.

Our pal Jennifer Lawrence seems to think this hurricane is cause by the political climate of today. Not warm moist air pressures mixing.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kri...ause-trump

The new evil hurricane god appears to be Donald trump in her mind.

Aloha!

[puckerman]

[sonoran_]

how many bloody hurricanes are there this season?? harvey, irma, jose, katia....

Americas are getting pummeled by nature this year.

Mexico had huge earthquake yesterday and now reports of people dead from katia there.

[Oz.]

Irma has shifted slightly and it looks like the center will hit Tampa. Where is el mec?

[Samseau]

(09-09-2017 07:53 PM)Oz. Wrote:  

Irma has shifted slightly and it looks like the center will hit Tampa. Where is el mec?

Looks like he's prepared:

[budoslavic]

Tweets from #Irma

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[url=https://twitter.com/rightvoicenow/status/906629310638850048]

[Enigma]

(09-09-2017 07:14 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  

how many bloody hurricanes are there this season?? harvey, irma, jose, katia....

Americas are getting pummeled by nature this year.

Mexico had huge earthquake yesterday and now reports of people dead from katia there.

There are around half a dozen hurricanes in the Atlantic during the average year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season

Of course, the media doesn't want you to know that neither 2017 nor this decade are particularly bad times for hurricanes, because it doesn't fit in with the climate alarmism narrative.

And the real estate industry also doesn't want you to wonder why they supposedly haven't figured out how to build hurricane-proof structures en masse -- because that's not as profitable as cutting costs with shitty houses made of wood and sheetrock that can't even shelter you from the annual storms.

[kosko]

(09-09-2017 11:49 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

(09-09-2017 07:14 PM)sonoran_ Wrote:  

how many bloody hurricanes are there this season?? harvey, irma, jose, katia....

Americas are getting pummeled by nature this year.

Mexico had huge earthquake yesterday and now reports of people dead from katia there.

There are around half a dozen hurricanes in the Atlantic during the average year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_hurricane_season

Of course, the media doesn't want you to know that neither 2017 nor this decade are particularly bad times for hurricanes, because it doesn't fit in with the climate alarmism narrative.

And the real estate industry also doesn't want you to wonder why they supposedly haven't figured out how to build hurricane-proof structures en masse -- because that's not as profitable as cutting costs with shitty houses made of wood and sheetrock that can't even shelter you from the annual storms.

Nobody wants to pay the premium. You start building storm proof homes and prices will add on $70k to the housing price and people can't stomach that.

Florida especially you can get away with putting up cardboard and glue and passing it off as a home. Crap gets built all over that state and they will stick a cardboard house right beside a swamp.

I don't expect towers to crumble of course but this storm will expose and degradecheap window systems and likely blow up water collection systems in the towers also. I feel sorry for all those HOA boards, but you assume insurance will cover some of the damage.

[Enigma]

(09-10-2017 12:20 AM)kosko Wrote:  

Nobody wants to pay the premium. You start building storm proof homes and prices will add on $70k to the housing price and people can't stomach that.

Florida especially you can get away with putting up cardboard and glue and passing it off as a home. Crap gets built all over that state and they will stick a cardboard house right beside a swamp.

I don't expect towers to crumble of course but this storm will expose and degradecheap window systems and likely blow up water collection systems in the towers also. I feel sorry for all those HOA boards, but you assume insurance will cover some of the damage.

People wouldn't be able to stomach the costs because housing prices are infamously inflated and wages are notoriously suppressed.

That's why people were miraculously able to afford "storm proof" (read: brick or other sturdily-built homes) decades and even centuries ago.

Charleston, SC, for instance, sits on a peninsula below sea level on the coast of the Atlantic, yet it has pre-Revolutionary and/or Civil War structures that withstand hurricanes better than much of the newer shit. And the building codes there are actually very strict about modifying existing homes.

Meanwhile the newer architecture on the surrounding barrier islands blows away if you breathe on it.

[Enigma]

Another element of the hurricane hype is simply a product of the social media/instant news generation.

For instance, the Irma vs. Andrew meme from the last page, while interesting to look at, is a very misleading comparison considering Andrew was a fairly small storm in diameter.



Most people who don't live in the Southeast probably don't remember Floyd -- because it didn't do much. That's not to say Irma isn't a big, strong storm, but these are the kind of retarded comparisons people make to try and portray Irma as some kind of world-ending hurricane of never-before-seen proportions.

For comparison, here's Hugo:



And Sandy:



Of course, it doesn't look nearly as cool to compare Irma to other large (in diameter) storms, and it also doesn't fuel the "hurricanes keep getting bigger!!!!!" narrative.

P.S. To be clear, I hope our Florida members are staying safe, I just find the hype surrounding these hurricanes to be blown out of proportion to what they really are.

[porscheguy]

A lot of the construction that's happened in south Florida since Andrew is cinder block. Asphalt shingles are not permitted. You won't see much vinyl siding either. Most of the new construction I've seen throughout Florida seems to follow the same formula. Brick, block, concrete, covered with stucco. Masonry roofs.

Most of the houses that get flattened will be old wooden shit. The masonry structures with old roofs will suffer some damage but at least the walls will still stand come Tuesday.

[Enigma]

(09-10-2017 01:43 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

A lot of the construction that's happened in south Florida since Andrew is cinder block. Asphalt shingles are not permitted. You won't see much vinyl siding either. Most of the new construction I've seen throughout Florida seems to follow the same formula. Brick, block, concrete, covered with stucco. Masonry roofs.

Most of the houses that get flattened will be old wooden shit. The masonry structures with old roofs will suffer some damage but at least the walls will still stand come Tuesday.

Adjusted for inflation, hurricanes cause more damage today than they did 30 years ago, despite a similar frequency and intensity of hurricanes.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/damage.asp

There's only been one hurricane season since 2010 that hasn't caused over $1 billion in damages, with 2017 looking to be the worst in history.

[balybary]

Proliferation of armed gangs, looting, and aggression in the island of Saint-Martin.

Tranlated by Google
http://www.ouest-france.fr/monde/ouragan...in-5236697

Quote:

On the French island of Saint-Martin, Irma has spoken of her violence, man is now letting out his own. Within the rubble and ruins there is a proliferation of armed bands, looting, and aggression. Chaos. The law of the strongest. The authorities are trying to take control of the situation, but the glittering testimonies follow one another.

"It's death here. We are locked in the residence, no more housing, it stinks piss, shit, horror. We can not go outside: shots, machete shots. Fortunately in the residence we are in solidarity, but we start to go crazy.

"In St. Martin, it is no longer the force of nature, but the law of the strongest. My father can not go out anymore, because in the streets, people walk around with weapons and shoot people to recover goods and food. He also says that there are a lot of deaths, not 8, then 4. "

Pillages, aggressions, organized bands crisscrossing the island, burglary houses and fracturing shops, machetes and revolvers in the streets: since Wednesday and the passage of Hurricane Irma on the island of Saint-Martin, testimonies of this on social networks.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Important notice you guyz.

[url=https://twitter.com/PascoSheriff/status/906712903868469249][/url]