[dknightbro]

This has been something I've been reflecting on after seeing a lot of common game advice to not be needy.

While I agree that when you first start gaming, it's advisable to move on to the next girl after encountering a given level of resistance or ignores (helps build inner game & prevent stalling), you can get to a point where you simply DGAF about appearing non-needy and am simply hitting the field to make things happen.

If that means double-, triple-, quadruple- , etc. texting, then so be it. If it means re-approaching the girl, so be it.

Is it really that bad do something like repeated texting that requires barely any physical effort? Or even re-approaching if you simply DGAF?

I've experimented with repeated attempts and gotten some positive feedback. Any other guys have experience with this?

[The Stronger Sex]

As far as I'm concerned it's not about physical effort. Red lights come up if I feel I'm lowering myself or placing myself in a subordinate position. I can feel it and she can feel it.

[Investment Bro]

Persistance is good, but only when you know you've got a warm lead. Girls that like you are worth the effort, those that don't are not. Even if you truly don't care, not getting ahead does wear on you once you've done enough approaches.

However I remain adamant that the double text or reapproach should be less than 5% of your total game related activities. Spending too much time being persistent is going to keep you from getting laid and its going to give you a bad vibe as pushy. I think of unwarranted persistance as bad pick up artistry as opposed to true game.

[XXL]

I posted few words about it here.. thread-62513.html

And here..
https://xxlbase.quora.com/%E2%80%9CWHERE...-%E2%80%9D

[Distant Light]

If you're persisting to get sex, then your whole mindset & perspective is off...

Guys think "but my wing got laid the other night off persisting" not realizing in the grand scheme of things he is creating a horrible dynamic and reinforcingna feedback loop of "...But I got laid"

Real fascinating men are given in abundance. Whether it be women, perks, access, insider info, etc.

Dudes dealing with LMR, spending time on a specific girl and overall having elusive experiences with women who fit their diverse ideal types.

From a woman perspective YOUR JUST AN OPTION for when she looks around, is bored/horny and thinks "fuck I might as well give that guy a chance"

- There is little to no sexual tension
- There is little to no urgency to have sex
- The process towards sex is alot of "dicking around" formalities, expectations & assumptions
- There is a shitty aura of "where is this going"

People usee to think I was insane when sex would occur 5-15mins of meeting someone OR when purposely inviting out chicks who I intended to hookup with that night...

And best of all no dumbass LMR. It is rare a man will consistently experience meeting a chick, going somewhere semi-isolated and fingering and/or fucking.

The main reason is the woman was never pressured, forced, nor persuaded...She was left to her own consciousness to figure out what she wants to do. Also, it wasn't some "o yea this guy wants to fuck me, why else would he persist"...

Most chicks never really knew if I was going to fuck them because no matter how much I liked them or was attracted that wasn't the SINKER for me to bang.

My joke back then was sort of a "catch me at the right time...and maybe".

No matter how much sex you yeild from persisting, it's never worth it. So much time is wasted and the theme of the interaction is never genuine...

You were potentially just "the best of her worst options"

P.S...A chick doesn't need to be talked into or schemed into bed. So many times, I'd almost decide to go home (bad logistics via parents & far trek) as we figure out logistics of me back at her place. The rationalize on their end is whatever shit is going on in their head is about to kill an experience they genuinely would want to go on...That way of being can't be explored nor gained by PERSISTING as it comes from a totally different perspective. It's that state of mind that has lead to me having 3-5hrs of fun fun fun & then in a 15min timeframe where I stumbled upon someone and we just went home together. (Girls have set up days for us to hookup and then something like above would occur, no one having any clue) I almost lost a friendship over this as I was waiting for my friend, met a girl, friend still didn't show up. By time he showed up at midnight, I was deciding to bounce. (I waited 5hrs for him...Hour or 2 waiting stumbledupon a girl. By the 3rd hour I decided I'd just kill time with the girl and her friends as I had no intention of hooking up...Next thing I know girl & I are fooling around...I decide to tell them to hang for an hour then bounce with me to 2nd venue because my boy was suppose to meet me 3hrs ago...Get to 2nd venue, FRIEND NOT HERE so I decide I'm just going to go home with the girl and if anything meet up later in the night as it's 1130pm...Right as I'm leaving my boy shows up, then mentions I'm always disappearing which was valid at that time period but insisted if I don't comebacj we can no longer be friends...After hooking up I came back haha...) This woulda never occured had he showed up 5hrs earlier.

P.S.S...Another thing about persisting is that you'll never learn/experience still having fun socializing despite being amongst women who are HOPING to hookup. Just so happened 1 night 2 different girls were in NY sametime who my friend claims "were waiting to get fucked by md". (This was during peak where opp for sex was so abundant that I'd never be able to hookup with them all) My friend brought this up because 1 of the girls, I encouraged to bounce with this soccer team where one of the guys she was attracted to. So 1 of my female friends + girl who liked me went to after party with the soccer players...Then my boy monologued that he notices I do that alot which was never purposely done just a byproduct of sex being as common as turning on the faucet & the fact that I liked indulging in fun 1st, sex as a complement of goodtimes.

[Vill@in]

(08-15-2017 04:35 AM)dknightbro Wrote:  

If that means double-, triple-, quadruple- , etc. texting, then so be it. If it means re-approaching the girl, so be it.

Is it really that bad do something like repeated texting that requires barely any physical effort? Or even re-approaching if you simply DGAF?

Don't do this. This shows that you do, indeed, give a fuck. At most, double text if you must but no more. More than that and you're showing neediness.

Truly not giving a fuck is sending a text and if she doesn't reply move on the next girl. Who gives a fuck if she doesn't answer? Her loss. Don't male hamster DGAF and twist it to serve your neediness.

[dknightbro]

Let me explain where I'm coming from:

Basically when I'm playing the game, at all times I'm pipelining. This means all I need to do for a repeat contact is a cursory brushover text or re-approach to see if something sticks.

It costs minimal time & at this point after many approaches + rejections, my ego really does not care about being hurt if she is "ghosting" me. I have plenty of things going on in my life outside of the attention of any particular girl.

In fact, I find it amusing as it ends up being like trolling or self-amusement.

Yes, clearly I'm not going to dedicate a huge percentage of my efforts on repeats like this. I always leave these low-priority tasks to the end of the pipeline.

My point is I see repeat contacts as a valid method. It is probably more appropriate for intermediate or advanced gamers. Beginners will likely not be able to understand the non-neediness behind repeat contacts.

I don't have any problems with one-itis using the repeat method & I don't lose any sleep over a girl who doesn't reply. Which is why it still seems odd to me that this method isn't being discussed more as a valid tool in your game arsenal.

[XXL]

@dknightbro

You're fine. With that mindset reapproaching or restarting or whatever you wanna call it is good tactic.

Guy lose a lot of girls cause they next too soon as they view is as abundance mindset. This is completely wrong. The fact that you can put your advances on hold for some time with specific girl means that you feel like you're in abundance (that's what non needy guys do) and it makes you cool in girls eyes as well.

Girls hate being pressured into sex and often need TIME to get familiar with the thought of you two hooking up. Playing it cool makes it faster. In the meantime you get busy with other girls so in fact you do not wait days for a girl to get comfortable. You are always active and sex happens as you play the game.

[Kieran]

Exactly. I couldn't care less if I'm not a girl's top priority I just want to get my go. I'll keep them sweet by sending group texts to stay on the radar here and there until the time's more suitable. A lot of guys in this game have no empathy with girls and don't understand that they have things going on like we do. I don't take numbers from girls that I can see aren't attracted to me though.