[James_London]

(11-11-2011 01:48 PM)Richie Wrote:  

Cheers James. This is all new territory I want to explore because the women are of such high quality. But I agree with Pilgrim, I actually loathe these places as a night out. But I wouldnt go out at all if it wasn't for the chase. So I might as well experiment and step it up a gear and hopefully be rewarded with dumb ass, boring Russian whore with an ass you could crack nuts with.

Richie, Pilgrim,

I sense some serious issues here,

Thank god UK is not ruled by the Saudi family where they forbid women to even drive on their own, it's a free country - and there are a variety of entertainment options, some with more hotter women than others (and more difficult to game or just different)

By loathing these places or by describing girls as whores you will possibly decrease your chances to taste the forbidden pink fruit.

As mystery says, I'm interested in a certain quality of women, who happens to be in the top end clubs and usually among friends.

When you respect the game, the game will show you some beautiful things, but make sure you keep it as a healthy hobby.

If you wanna go to a pub, by all means do that, there are a wide variety of choices from Wetherspoons to more neighbourhoody ones.

Cheers

[Caligula]

Richie, the high energy club game isn't for everyone. I agree that it's boring but I still manage to meet hot women in London. You just have to get creative about where you do it.

I don't like the London bottle service club scene at all. I'm well connected with promoters and some of the big partiers on the scene but the high energy game it requires doesn't suit my style. The negatives of being in a douche-heavy, loud environment outweigh the positive of having a shot at a lot of hot girls concentrated in one place.

You can meet top notch girls (fashion models) at night in Hoxton without dropping a lot of cash. You just have to figure out what works for you. Don't misunderstand this as meaning you shouldn't get out of your comfort zone. Of course you should. Some nights it feels like you're going against the grain and you keep pushing. But if you keep pushing and repeatedly don't get the results you want reconsider your strategy and try other approaches.

Even worse if you're not enjoying yourself during the chase it may be an unnecessary sacrifice. Running game should be fun.

Day game is a good option especially for the very hot girls. Their bitch shield and sense of entitlement goes through the roof when they're out getting free champagne thrown at them by every rich beta and fake baller in London. They're already getting all the attention they crave lavished on them. This makes your job much harder in the clubs. During the day they're easier to catch off guard. The King's Road is packed with hot women on a good day. There are a lot of modelling agencies in Soho. Look into art gallery game at openings in Bethnal Green. Selfridges is a goldmine.

This is how you respect the game and more importantly yourself - not by mimicking what worked for Mystery in LA. There's no right answer for everyone. This creative approach is what sets this forum apart from PUA forums.

Get creative in figuring out what works for you; there's more than one way to skin a lizard.

[James_London]

(11-11-2011 06:58 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

You can meet top notch girls (fashion models) at night in Hoxton without dropping a lot of cash.

Yes. I took a Russian 17 yr old fashion model to an instadate from street (I guess her being on Lagerfeld's Chanel show qualifies a legitimate fashion model

(11-11-2011 06:58 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

Some nights it feels like you're going against the grain and you keep pushing.

Best book I recommend is Og Mandino's "The Greates Salesman in the World".

Great advice in pushing yourself while your body aches and you want to go home, try one more sell while the average fella wants to go home, you try it one more time, not to be able to make the sell, but prepare yourself for the next sell. Great advice, and since I incorporated it into my weight training and PU hobby, I'm seeing observable and measurable improvements.

PU is similar to body buildin, measure and push yourself. My body fat percentage has decreased from 25% to 17% in 6 months' time. Strange, after working out for almost 15 years, I only managed to have body fat percentage of 25% (25.1% means fat, starting of obese etc...) and 17% means top end of athletic. Six packs can be observable, probably, around 10% fat range. Way to go.

(11-11-2011 06:58 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

Don't misunderstand this as meaning you shouldn't get out of your comfort zone. Of course you should.

Yes, don't create excuses. Go there and face your enemy, like Luke Skywalker had to face his enemy and look dead in his eye, great analogy.

[rudebwoy]

(11-11-2011 11:12 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Hey James, Fellow londoner here. I have always stuck up for London on this forum because I truly believe it has something to offer everyone. And by far the highest quantity of hot women from all over the world than any other major city. However it is a city that takes time to establish yourself and therefore woud not recommend to passing tourists.
I'd be really interested in any nightlife recommendations or info on exclusive parties you might have? As I young man I used to frequent the East end which is great for hipster chicks and wot not. But I'm older now and really want to find myself some solid model types. I went out in Old Brompton last night. The talent on the streets was off the scale. I have recently befriended a club promotor but to be honest Im not really getting any results in these venues... China whites, Boujis etc. It all too hectic and the girls are too young and hang in groups and its all about the dancing. I have to say I'm finding it a lot harder recently to get the kind of action I was used to. I dress better, look better and have tons more game than ever but since I aimed my sights higher I feel a bit out of my depth. I saw three smoking hot russian girls hanging of some 40 year old dude at a pre-bar club in Kensington last night. Made me sick to the stomach. It's this kind of shit that I just dont think I can compete with.

This statement is simply false, it does not have that many hot women and this is giving people the wrong idea.
What other city are you comparing this to?
Toronto out does London for quality of women from around the world, the problem is the attitude.
I also find the women from other countries that move to London are the "B" grade type who usually don't have much going for them in there home country.

[Richie]

I know it sounds like a bold statement. But I believe it to be true. I am completely unbiased as London is NOT my favourite place to pickup. I am very well travelled and in my genuine experience London attracts the hottest girls from all over the UK and Europe. Im not saying they are easy.. far from it. But London is so heavily populated it's impossible not to see high quality talent on a very regular basis. Go and stand outside topshop on Oxford street for 10 minutes and tell me otherwise.

I have not been to Toronto but I have spent time in Montreal and a season Banff. Montreal was amazing... some real hot girls. Loved every minute of it. But if we are talking numbers... London pisses all over it. Although I had more success in Montreal in 2 weeks than I would have done in London. SO there you go, I'd rather live in Montreal.

(11-12-2011 10:59 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(11-11-2011 11:12 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Hey James, Fellow londoner here. I have always stuck up for London on this forum because I truly believe it has something to offer everyone. And by far the highest quantity of hot women from all over the world than any other major city. However it is a city that takes time to establish yourself and therefore woud not recommend to passing tourists.
I'd be really interested in any nightlife recommendations or info on exclusive parties you might have? As I young man I used to frequent the East end which is great for hipster chicks and wot not. But I'm older now and really want to find myself some solid model types. I went out in Old Brompton last night. The talent on the streets was off the scale. I have recently befriended a club promotor but to be honest Im not really getting any results in these venues... China whites, Boujis etc. It all too hectic and the girls are too young and hang in groups and its all about the dancing. I have to say I'm finding it a lot harder recently to get the kind of action I was used to. I dress better, look better and have tons more game than ever but since I aimed my sights higher I feel a bit out of my depth. I saw three smoking hot russian girls hanging of some 40 year old dude at a pre-bar club in Kensington last night. Made me sick to the stomach. It's this kind of shit that I just dont think I can compete with.

This statement is simply false, it does not have that many hot women and this is giving people the wrong idea.
What other city are you comparing this to?
Toronto out does London for quality of women from around the world, the problem is the attitude.
I also find the women from other countries that move to London are the "B" grade type who usually don't have much going for them in there home country.

[James_London]

Rudebwoy,

please elaborate and explain how come you come to this clear cut conclusion?

As an analogy, we cannot observe microwave, but it exists there are certain methods to test for these type of phenomena

[rudebwoy]

James. I am a native born British person that returned to live in 2006-2010, it was a tough time to say the least. Social circle is very big in London, if you do not have one then it can be tougher. Some was saying to go to Pubs, Whetherspoons are you frigging serious. Isn't that where retired alchoholics go for a drink.

Your statement is false b/c you are using Top Shop on Oxford st as your example, for those that do not know this is the highest traffic shopping area in all of London. So right away alot of girls you will see are tourists and yes I have been there on a saturday afternoon to check the "talent". That is like saying NYC is amazing b/c of the girls you see in Times Square, for the record I will give the nod to New York.

Maybe it is not fair to compare Montreal to London b/c of the size, but to say Ldn pisses on it is a joke. The Montreal forum alone is alot bigger than the London one (maybe not the thread that says London sucks). Even you pointed out you had better success in Montreal, which is easy to understand b/c the women have a much better personality's.

What i do miss about London is being able to travel to so many great European cities to deal with much better looking women.

Out of curiousity what is your background?

[Deb Auchery]

London is one of the best places to party in the world. And as people have mentioned it's an international city, so London girls are very different from English girls. Easy to get laid, if she won't fuck you the first night then the second is almost guaranteed.

I tend to concentrate on the Eastern European immigrants that are fresh off the boat.

Head to Clapham for some crazy fun.

[Caligula]

(11-12-2011 04:14 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Head to Clapham for some crazy fun.

Always wondered about the scene in Clapham. Could you share some data?

[James_London]

(11-12-2011 03:48 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

James. I am a native born British person that returned to live in 2006-2010, it was a tough time to say the least. Social circle is very big in London, if you do not have one then it can be tougher. Some was saying to go to Pubs, Whetherspoons are you frigging serious. Isn't that where retired alchoholics go for a drink.

Your statement is false b/c you are using Top Shop on Oxford st as your example, for those that do not know this is the highest traffic shopping area in all of London. So right away alot of girls you will see are tourists and yes I have been there on a saturday afternoon to check the "talent". That is like saying NYC is amazing b/c of the girls you see in Times Square, for the record I will give the nod to New York.

Maybe it is not fair to compare Montreal to London b/c of the size, but to say Ldn pisses on it is a joke. The Montreal forum alone is alot bigger than the London one (maybe not the thread that says London sucks). Even you pointed out you had better success in Montreal, which is easy to understand b/c the women have a much better personality's.

What i do miss about London is being able to travel to so many great European cities to deal with much better looking women.

Out of curiousity what is your background?

That's my point bro. You have been to Top Shop. Have you pushed the limits there, just like the greatest bodybuilder of Arnold would do? I doubt not. If you have done, so, all respect, but I get the feel that you have not.

I have done that, I spent so much time there on a single day that the security guy suspected I was trying to steal something. I guess me spending so much time down in the women's section triggered something in his brain

Let me give you some examples

1) Sunday afternoon, 22 year old Lithuanian Russian who works at Harrods, insta date in a coffee shop opposite of Selfridges - I was working on fast physical escalation, she enjoyed it, but it was too fast, but still great learning experience with a hot girl

2) Monday (literally next day), I pull a gorgeous Russian from Moscow next to John Lewis, side street of Oxford street, take her to a Marylebone pub, and then to my flat (under 2 hours). 2 days in a row just told me something, somethings are simply possible

3) Liverpool Street, 17 year old russian model who was there for London fashion week, insta date to Starbucks

Most of the hotter girls will be Slavic in London. Then, I met the english beauties guess where, Shoreditch , they are everywhere man.

The fact that you have not observed them does not necessarily negate the fact that they exist.


PS: Yes, statistically, 45% of immigrants live in Greater London area, hence, if one goes to Manchester, the likelihood of catching a pure English (whatever that means, like Hugenouts are scottish, scots are brit, whatever, they are all British). However, London is a huge city, and I lived in Marylebone and there were more than enough English girls. But, you have to know your target population. If you look for the artsty English crowd, go to Shoreditch. I'm sure Richmond etc. has good English girls. Roofgardens is a great place to meet all those lawyer english girls (yep, age is getting over 25, if that is your thing)

[rudebwoy]

James - I also dated Eastern European girls when I lived there, that was my main diet. You, like others are talking about Russian, Eastern European and Slavic girls. I would prefer to visit those countries and date the above mentioned women there than live in London. Wouldn't this also imply that Russia for example has hotter women and I think most would agree Ukraine would be on the list.
As I mentioned before the quality of Eastern Europeans that move to London is low, mostly country girls or B type girls.
I am debating getting a job in a Eastern European city as we speak.
So what about the other 70% of the girls in London?
I am a little older than you and would NEVER hang out in a department store to meet women and yes the Starbucks inside Selfridges was one of my favourite spots.

[James_London]

Rudebwoy

When you dated slavic beatuies in London, did you actually go out picking them up in general or just let it happen? I'm generally pro-active in organizing my life to make the odds favorable for myself coz the number of truly attractive girls, by the nature of the beast, is very limited. During day, I would schedule an hour or two to go to a particular area and practically approach, and then go back to my life. If it is a Sunday, I can even do it as a hobby for a little bit longer. But I always have something better to do than just approaching as sometimes you won't see my hotties, and then it's best to take it easy.

I gave the slavic PUs as an example but I also have picked up an English lawyer next to Liverpool street in under 1 minute and we dated for about 6 months. (found Paul Janka beneficial there)

I also got a number close from an 18 year old ginger english girl around that area, who was coming to London for modelling, didn't leave anywhere but it just told me it was an efficient time to use my hour long lunch breaks into something efficient and yielding

Would this imply that Russia / Ukraine has more hotter girls than otside? NO, NO, NO - let me explain

In practice it is very time consuming to find those who speak english coz the ones who don't won't do any good, unless you are her ideal type of man. In the UK, you already have a pre-selected crowd of slavic girls who speak your language.

I've spent about 3 months already in both Ukraine and Russia. The main theme is that you have to identify english speakers (unless you are fluent enough in those languages). Out of 150m russians, there should be thousands of english speakers in theory. However, in practice, finding them in a particular city is pain in the ass needs an enermous amount of energy and time commitment. For the first week or so when you come to these cities, you might have the novelty factor and can go out everynight and start screening and find some, but effort/reward is low (especially if you are after hotter girls). Both in Moscow and SP I had the same issue, in a particular group 2 or 3 girls, the hot ones don't speak english, and I don't wanna use the ugly one as my translator.

Ukraine is slightly better, there were more girls speaking english, and night life (in Kiev) was more organized as they make a lot of money from foreign sex tourists from particularly Turkey and Italy.

Your observation of B type girls coming to London is an interesting one. It has some truth to it. I was together with 3 Polish girls in London. 2 of them where living in London either temporarily to make it or for a long time. The 3rd one was from Warsaw, working for a advertising agency there, and the hottest among them and the best sex I had. She told me the better girls stay in Poland. Could be true. Again, by the sheer number of opportunities, London will still offer many available, attractive girls.

I've given you tipsters on where to look for English girls in London. It takes some experimentation, but they are everywhere. (go have a drink with your buddy in St Christopher place pub and you'll see a pattern of English girls hanging out there after work, but it's a numbers game, some days will be better than others. Before I started with the whole Game, I met an English girl there and was together with her for a month or so.

You being older than me or not does not change the fundamental rules of the GAME. You do not hang around a particular venue (Top shop in this case). You happen to look for sth for your little niece and ask some cuties opinion and see how she responds. You have to be speaking to at least 10 targets in general in any given venue to get a result that will make you happy. I've only experimented with department stores but not my particular spot, I can easily talk to a walking girl (I developed a kind of 6th sense to feel if a girl is walking slowly and is open to be pulled - I think I've seen this in Roosh's book as well - same observation, same results)

However, all in all, it comes down to be more proactive, and adjust your game to your lifestyle and to your environment. Sitting in a coffeeshop for 5 hours to game is not good for me, unless, I already like to do my work there and am ready to use the opportunity if a girl comes. Sometimes just walking on the street for one hour and approach any girl I like was the best yielding for me. Or a focused partying in a London night club, where there are some truly beautiful girls. Half of them will be English enough.

[Deb Auchery]

One of my tricks in London in finding the slavic hotties was drawing up a map of the English language schools in London, and finding the bars and cafes that are in close proximity. For example Mayfair school of English on Oxford Street

Even better would be to be a teacher at one of these places, OMG can you imagine the daily flood of Eastern European gash?!

[Richie]

Nice post James. It's nice to read about your experiences in London compared to Ukraine and Russia. Visiting a new country always gives you a bit of a push when it comes to meeting women but I often wonder if all the time and money is really worth it when I have prime pickings on my very doorstep. But I do think being English does NOT really stand for a great deal when gaming on home turf. Foreign status is one of the biggest attractions to a women outside the UK. Although perhaps not in Ukraine and Russia it seems.
I think a lot of guys on the forum have not got a problem with looking for English speakers. Personally I couldnt think of anything less tiring. On more than one occasion I have just lost interest or didnt follow up on a number close because the broken English was just too much like hard work... unless I'm at a nightclub talking to a foreigner with no English is tedious and awkward.

Agreed on that Deb Auchery. THere was a school in Bethnal green. The steady flow of young colombian women coming out the station made going there seems almost pointless.

I have only recently starting getting into Daygame here. I always walk besides as if I am going in the same direction as her. This alleviates pressure. AS long as I can get a solid 5 minutes I know I am good for a close. Any shorter and it doesn't feel right. THis can be hard in Oxford street since there are too many people. I'm not a fan of jumping in front of a girl and telling her shes gorgeous. Just not my style and I dont feel comfortable with it. Just not that cool.
I'm trying to find places with a steady flow of girl traffic but streets with a little room to move comfortably.

Liverpool street is a winner though. I have been passing through there a lot lately and there are a lot of fit young business types.

[James_London]

(11-13-2011 07:15 AM)Richie Wrote:  

Nice post James. It's nice to read about your experiences in London compared to Ukraine and Russia. Visiting a new country always gives you a bit of a push when it comes to meeting women but I often wonder if all the time and money is really worth it when I have prime pickings on my very doorstep. But I do think being English does NOT really stand for a great deal when gaming on home turf. Foreign status is one of the biggest attractions to a women outside the UK. Although perhaps not in Ukraine and Russia it seems.
I think a lot of guys on the forum have not got a problem with looking for English speakers. Personally I couldnt think of anything less tiring. On more than one occasion I have just lost interest or didnt follow up on a number close because the broken English was just too much like hard work... unless I'm at a nightclub talking to a foreigner with no English is tedious and awkward.

Agreed on that Deb Auchery. THere was a school in Bethnal green. The steady flow of young colombian women coming out the station made going there seems almost pointless.

I have only recently starting getting into Daygame here. I always walk besides as if I am going in the same direction as her. This alleviates pressure. AS long as I can get a solid 5 minutes I know I am good for a close. Any shorter and it doesn't feel right. THis can be hard in Oxford street since there are too many people. I'm not a fan of jumping in front of a girl and telling her shes gorgeous. Just not my style and I dont feel comfortable with it. Just not that cool.
I'm trying to find places with a steady flow of girl traffic but streets with a little room to move comfortably.

Liverpool street is a winner though. I have been passing through there a lot lately and there are a lot of fit young business types.

This year is my own gap year. Instead of travelling to Argentina and tasting Malbec wine, I decided to combine my travels with learing a language and business culture of a country that I do business with.

Just to meet women, No, I wouldn't recommend travels to these parts of the world. Before I came, I already had something better to do than just chasing pussy. As Style (Neil Strauss) says, always have something better than chasing pussy, and then go out and chase pussy

My daily / weekly activities were as following

1) Learning russian
2) Catching up on business reading (for my current/future career)
3) Weight training (decreasing body fat % while incresing muscle mass)

4) Continue my hobby with girls

The first three are not necessarily in particular order, but they are top-3 as all are important. Pickup is complimentary and I'm experimenting.

I found out that after focusing on the top-3 priorities, it's really difficult to switch to a state where you can roam the city to find english speakers. You have to realy a lot on your subcommunications while hunting, and switching your thinking from reading a particular text on High Finance to PU is tough. In London, I have already arranged my life and had my default lines and things were working. Here, it was just now worth it.

But again, if you travel for a week, by all means, come to this city and go out on your own to push your boundaries. I know some friends who usually do that. Yep, they also pipeline via Mamba. I started Mamba piepelining too late ( 2 weeks is not enough, give it a few months and just focus on English speakers). It was a learning experience for to realize te importance of English speakers even in Mamba and I lost valuable time. Again, this is the reason I came here, I'm not gonna cry over it, though it may be frustrating

As you can see, I'm basically pushing myself outside my comfort zone again. I've done that in London a lot, and stopped many girls on Oxford Street from every angle until I found what works for me.

Like in bodybuilding, you can only improve by incremental increases of stress you put your body under. Our brains are plastic, it will get used to it. If you are interested in scientific background, read Daniel Golemans (Emotional Intelligence's writer) Social Intelligence book. He explains how we learn, how our brains produce about a thousand or so neurons a day, which go and attach themselves to synapsises. After about 3 months, these neurons create meaningful thinking patterns.

He also talks about the importance of playing (like little childrend or animals in the wild) on helping us to learn things.


Make approaching girls on busy Oxford street a fun game and let your brain handle how to best come up with your own Game, in about 3 months, it happens

[rudebwoy]

James-London - there is a reason why our host is not writing a Bang London anytime soon. There is a reason why the biggest playa on this board does not even utter the words London. I talk to alot of senior members on this forum offline and they have no interest in the place.
I admire your efforts and your bodybuilding analogy, as a long time bodybuilder I lift smarter now than I did before.
Besides the girls, London is also a dump of a place. I have found much better hunting grounds with easily better looking women, as your polish friend said hotter girls will always prefer to stay in there own countries.

[Deb Auchery]

Besides the girls, London is also a dump of a place. I have found much better hunting grounds with easily better looking women, as your polish friend said hotter girls will always prefer to stay in there own countries.
[/quote]

Ok Rudebwoy you have found cities with better looking women, but does that translate into screwing them?.
Lived in London for 4 years, had some of my hottest lays there, and the women are really good fun.
They will always stay in their own countries will they? Hmmm....okey dokey

[James_London]

(11-13-2011 02:50 PM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Besides the girls, London is also a dump of a place. I have found much better hunting grounds with easily better looking women, as your polish friend said hotter girls will always prefer to stay in there own countries.

Ok Rudebwoy you have found cities with better looking women, but does that translate into screwing them?.
Lived in London for 4 years, had some of my hottest lays there, and the women are really good fun.
They will always stay in their own countries will they? Hmmm....okey dokey


[/quote]

Well, I had the same beautiful experiences in London

I'll tell you guys sometime how a lesbian girl with approach anxiety was so impressed by my approach to a tall, hot blond girl, and she become my best friend and introduced her married sister to me, too bad my initial target was totally gay and had 3 GFs, she was like Shane from L word

[rudebwoy]

James-London/Deb Auchery - I am not here to brag about my experiences or show how big my dick is. Better hunting grounds would mean better girls and yes "screwing" them.

[JackHammer11]

Wanted to chime in on London. I’ve lived over there for school and have a bunch of friends in the area, so am there quite a bit for long weekends and the occasional week. Definitely have done my fair share of going out in London over the years.

I’ve read some wildly differing opinions on here. That’s to be expected. It’s such a vast, expansive city (Think the size of LA but more dense), that you’re bound to encounter tons of different experiences.
To start, unlike LA or South Florida, there is no uniform description of “London girls.” There are truly so many people living there from around the world that it truly is the ultimate transplant city, and in my opinion as close to a “capital of the world” destination that you’re likely to encounter.

I do agree with some of the statements on here regarding people bring a bit more closed off than in the U.S. and other Western nations. That's an unfortunate truth, but on the bright side, once you crack into a crowd in London, you'll have friends for life. It's also true when approaching women (I must stress LOCAL women) during the day. English girls really hit both ends of the spectrum. Quite serious during the day and less receptive to approach, but when it's time to go out they definitely let their hair down, far more so than in the U.S. (Especially so in the northern cities: Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle, but that's another thread). I think most success with daygame in London is bound to be had with approaching transplants.

Though it is a true world capital, like all cities, there is still a crowd of strong local talent that can regularly be found a limited number of venues. What you get out of London, more so than most places, truly depends on location. The West End is the self-proclaimed ground zero for London’s center of nightlife, it’s where you’ll find the cream of the crop, world-class talents living in London, models and actresses, the whole nine yards. Of course, with that come the expected downsides, sky-high prices, and areas overrun with tourists acting like it’s amateur hour. The best clubs are EXTREMELY difficult to get into without a reservation or without rolling up with 3-4 decent looking girls or unless you have a very strong inside hookup (Probably harder than Vegas). Venues that come to mind are Mahiki, Piccadilly Institute, and Public (Not in West End, located in Chelsea). Expect to drop serious cash at all such venues.

Another problem you’re likely to encounter in the West End is serious difficulty in same night closes. Hotel prices are INSANE in Central London, where a decent room can run you 400 USD easy. For that reason, many girls come from far and wide for a night out in the West End. It’s not at all uncommon for a group of girls to take a 60 minute train ride in from far out in the suburbs, and then take a two hour night bus ride home (public transport annoyingly shuts down from 12am – 6am on weekends. The only thing going is night buses) With large groups doing that, it can be very hard to separate a smoking hot girl from her friends, even if your hotel is right down the block. Your best bet in these situations is to QUICKLY find out where girls are staying, what their arrangements are for the night, etc., and assess your chances from there before committing your precious time.

If you’re truly after a high quality same night close, a good alternative is to try some of the more surrounding boroughs away from Central London. Clapham, Islington, Earl’s Court, Waterloo & the South Bank, Balham, Brixton, Shoreditch (More of a hipster crowd if you’re into those kinds of chicks) are all worth a look. Of those, Clapham is by far my favorite. Big size, tons of venues, and the area is absolutely overrun with young professionals. While you won’t see as many 9s and 10s as you will at a super high-end club in Central London, there will still be some, and your chances of landing a same night close (for simple logistics-related reasons noted above, are FAR greater).

I’m headed back in February, let’s get this thread going again!

[Richie]

An honest report Jackhammer.

[Pilgrim37]

"London is also a dump of a place."


Compared to what?

London is expensive,yes.If you haven't got any friends it can seem cold,like anywhere else.Increasingly crowded, yes.

But a "dump"?

I've been to main cities all over and to live London is way up there.
NYC is fun to visit for a while,but for your Average Joe to live, London beats it hands down.

Some places just don't suit some people ,and suit others down to the ground.

Here's a guy on the youtube who is doing consistent approaches in the West End..he goes for it but I don't know if he Bangs much..he's got a thing for Orientals ,which is lucky for him as London does recently seem to be over run by the Yellow Peril!

I think it's cause he finds them less intimidating..little Oriental girls padding about.

[chyamor]

Ive had good luck in london, been there a few times for work. Hotel was in covert garden, went to Leicester Square. There's a american style bar on the right side just before piccadilly thats know to server strong drinks, women come out ready to go. I cant remember the street but its right near the entrance to china town area. Another bar is somethign zoo, its in the heart of square, lots of youngins though. Dont wonder too far since the red light area is only a few blocks away. Also had fun around oxford circus, high end fashion area.

[Kish]

(12-01-2011 09:57 AM)Pilgrim37 Wrote:  

Here's a guy on the youtube who is doing consistent approaches in the West End..he goes for it but I don't know if he Bangs much..he's got a thing for Orientals ,which is lucky for him as London does recently seem to be over run by the Yellow Peril!

I think it's cause he finds them less intimidating..little Oriental girls padding about.

I've been watching his videos for awhile now. London looks legit as far as day game.

[Richie]

The daygame culture is exploding in London. Anything and everything goes. You cant generalise on a city as diverse as London. There is no wrong way, there is no right way. While one girl might tell you to get stuffed another might be surprisingly receptive to your advances. When hitting on a random girl in London its 50/50 she will be British.