[blurb]

There is way too much negativity on the forum regarding life in America like there are no benefits to enjoy. Here are some of my favorites.

1) You are not forced to go into the military immediatey after high school.

2) You can buy virtually almost anything thanks to the largest economy. iPods, books, TVs, etc. Materialism to your heart's content.

3) You can approach and talk with any woman as opposed to a more conservative society which limits contact between the genders.

4) Safety. Compared to many other countries, you can live a relatively safe life if you stay out of certain places.

5) English. You speak the world's most popular language. This greatly increases your capacity for networking and business opportunities as opposed to a language in which only a few million people speak.

[thegmanifesto]

"1) You are not forced to go into the military immediatey after high school."

Not always true. We did have a draft.

"2) You can buy virtually almost anything thanks to the largest economy. iPods, books, TVs, etc. Materialism to your heart's content."

This is a good thing?

Yet you can barely purchase anything of "quality" in the US.

"3) You can approach and talk with any woman as opposed to a more conservative society which limits contact between the genders."

I have never been to a country where this is an issue. Not really a USA specific benefit.

"4) Safety. Compared to many other countries, you can live a relatively safe life if you stay out of certain places."

Interestingly, I have only been the victim of violent crime in the USA. (And Mexico a few times.)

American cities in my experience are way more dangerous than their foreign counterparts.

"5) English. You speak the world's most popular language. This greatly increases your capacity for networking and business opportunities as opposed to a language in which only a few million people speak."

More people speak Mandarin and Spanish than English.

[FilMor]

The best thing about the US is pretty much diversity. This is what I miss the most when I'm gone, specially if you live in cities like NYCLAChicago.

Oh yeah when it comes to violent crime US is one of the worst for example:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime...n_say.html

What type of person murders another man over a BBQ grill being dirty?

[Moma]

(09-03-2011 07:13 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"5) English. You speak the world's most popular language. This greatly increases your capacity for networking and business opportunities as opposed to a language in which only a few million people speak."

More people speak Mandarin and Spanish than English.

That statistic is skewed, there are a billion Chinese people so of course there will be more people speaking Mandarin.

What about Spanish? Are you saying that there are more Spanish speakers in the world than English?

And to conclude, would you say that someone who can only speak either Mandarin or Spanish only, would have a global advantage over someone who can ONLY speak English?

Something inside me tells me that English speakers have an advantage globally. I, however, welcome any corrections to this possible assumption.

[blurb]

(09-03-2011 07:13 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Not always true. We did have a draft.

Good point, but those were specific events in U.S. history which only happen if there's a war, unlike other countries that force you whether there's a war or not. Furthermore, there are ways of getting out of it like becoming a conscientious objector.

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This is a good thing?

Yet you can barely purchase anything of "quality" in the US.

Of course you're going to get crappy stuff if you only shop at Wal-Mart. I'd rather have problems associated with having too much money rather than not enough money. At least if you live in the U.S., you can do something about your life if you want to escape the 9-5 slavery, whereas there's relatively little you can do (money-wise) if you live in a 3rd world country other than immigrating to a 1st world country.

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I have never been to a country where this is an issue. Not really a USA specific benefit.

Go to India, Saudia Arabia, Morocco, Tunisia, etc. Why do we almost never get travel reports about India or any other Muslim-majority nation? The world's Muslim population is 1 billion, and the population of India is also 1 billion. That means that in a world population of approximately 6 billion people, 2 billion people live in a relatively conservative society. If you really think about it, about one third of the world's entire pussy is on lockdown.

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Interestingly, I have only been the victim of violent crime in the USA. (And Mexico a few times.)

American cities in my experience are way more dangerous than their foreign counterparts.

Ah, the city. Go to the South, Midwest, the suburbs, and other less densely populated areas. More people, more crime.

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More people speak Mandarin and Spanish than English.

Perhaps I wasn't being clear enough. I didn't mean the most widely-spoken language, I meant the most popular, as in which language people are trying learn the most. English is sort of the lingua franca in the international community. There is a reason why few people embark on learning Mandarin unless they are concentrating on opportunties in China specifically. There was an article I read that said that 49% of the E.U. parliament speaks English. It is that popular.

[thegmanifesto]

(09-03-2011 08:15 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(09-03-2011 07:13 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"5) English. You speak the world's most popular language. This greatly increases your capacity for networking and business opportunities as opposed to a language in which only a few million people speak."

More people speak Mandarin and Spanish than English.

What about Spanish? Are you saying that there are more Spanish speakers in the world than English?

According to this: http://www.vistawide.com/languages/top_30_languages.htm

It goes:

1. Mandarin Chinese
2. Hindi
3. Spanish
4. English

[Princeton]

1. More class mobility than most other countries.

2. Lack of conformity: no one really gives a shit what you do.

3. Stuff is cheap compared to most countries (food, fuel, consumer products, etc.)

4. We've got a geographically diverse country with mountains, beaches, prairies, big cities, etc.

Uh... that's all I can think of!

[MikeCF]

(09-03-2011 07:00 PM)blurb Wrote:  

There is way too much negativity on the forum regarding life in America like there are no benefits to enjoy. Here are some of my favorites.

1) You are not forced to go into the military immediatey after high school.

2) You can buy virtually almost anything thanks to the largest economy. iPods, books, TVs, etc. Materialism to your heart's content.

3) You can approach and talk with any woman as opposed to a more conservative society which limits contact between the genders.

4) Safety. Compared to many other countries, you can live a relatively safe life if you stay out of certain places.

5) English. You speak the world's most popular language. This greatly increases your capacity for networking and business opportunities as opposed to a language in which only a few million people speak.

You sound like a naive child or a red neck who has never traveled.

[blurb]

(09-03-2011 09:58 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

You sound like a naive child or a red neck who has never traveled.

Why don't you address my each of my points instead of resorting to silly childish name-calling. If anything, you're the one that sounds like a child.

[rudebwoy]

(09-03-2011 09:27 PM)Princeton Wrote:  

1. More class mobility than most other countries.

2. Lack of conformity: no one really gives a shit what you do.

3. Stuff is cheap compared to most countries (food, fuel, consumer products, etc.)

4. We've got a geographically diverse country with mountains, beaches, prairies, big cities, etc.

Uh... that's all I can think of!

I would are argue about point number 1.
I find everyone conforms there, not many people are individuals.

Stuff is crazy cheap and agreed you get more value for your money than any other country in the world.

The last point goes without saying.

BUT crime is no joke in America, yes you can go somewhere rural but who wants to live in Idaho.

[Luvianka]

The only thing America has an edge over the rest of the World is the greatest sport and the most spectacular sport professional league: Football and the NFL.

[Aliblahba]

I like the right to bear arms, and exercise this right daily.

I like the quality of product and labor in the U.S.

I like the quality and ease of pussy I pull in the U.S.

I like that if someone breaks into my house I can cut them in half w/ 3" Mag 00 buck from a semi-auto 12 gauge, and not got to jail. "I feared for my life".

I like the bourbon produced here. Not as good as Irish whiskey, but getting there.

I like Yuengling.

I like the quality and diversity of food in the U.S.

I like the Judicial system, especially when you have the money to bend it to your favor.

[jariel]

(09-03-2011 09:58 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

You sound like a naive child or a red neck who has never traveled.

+1

[Roosh]

(09-03-2011 09:58 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

You sound like a naive child or a red neck who has never traveled.

Not much good will come out personal insults like this. I like to think blurb and anyone else can share their opinion freely here, even if it's not the consensus view.

[ElJefe]

(09-04-2011 04:00 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I like the right to bear arms, and exercise this right daily.

I like the quality of product and labor in the U.S.

I like the quality and ease of pussy I pull in the U.S.

I like that if someone breaks into my house I can cut them in half w/ 3" Mag 00 buck from a semi-auto 12 gauge, and not got to jail. "I feared for my life".

I like the bourbon produced here. Not as good as Irish whiskey, but getting there.

I like Yuengling.

I like the quality and diversity of food in the U.S.

I like the Judicial system, especially when you have the money to bend it to your favor.

I'm a dual citizen, but the above is hands-down the best part about the US. The right to bear arms, defend your property, and to move freely from state to state. In Europe, we jail shop-owners who shoot violent burglars. Then we sue them.

In addition, Americans are VERY hospitable by international standards, at least older Americans. Friendly and open towards strangers.

Downside is yeah, a lot of Americans are fat, loud and obnoxious and poorly dressed - like a lot of people from a lot of countries. The US is not light-years ahead of everybody like back in 1940 - which is actually just a consequence of US success. The US was so good at what it did (mass consumerism) that everyone took after us and now more countries are wealthier and more consumer oriented, and in turn they've caught up or even gone ahead (Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg).

I was just in barcelona, and the American guys there were fucking horrible. In my opinion, the draft should be reinstuted because most guys need that kind of education just to grow up. Of course, what would you do with 10,000,000 soldiers?

[Tuthmosis]

(09-03-2011 10:36 PM)blurb Wrote:  

(09-03-2011 09:58 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

You sound like a naive child or a red neck who has never traveled.

Why don't you address my each of my points instead of resorting to silly childish name-calling. If anything, you're the one that sounds like a child.

+1.

A lot of my fondness for America comes from what it has been, historically, rather than where it is today. A lot of the things I consider great about the U.S. are in crisis or in serious decline. So believe me, I'm one of the first, and loudest, critics of: crass American consumerism; vapid, overweight American women; unintelligent, unworldly American populace willing to vote for people like Michele Bachmann.

But, some people are taking this Anti-America shit a little too far. We can't get to the point where if someone says something positive about America, some other cat actually feels emboldened to call that person child-like and ignorant.

@MikeCF: I've fucking "traveled" and can tell you this: half of the shit I see around the world has an American cultural stamp on it. The United States may be drowning in its own excess now, but it's left a massive cultural and political legacy all over the globe.

[ElJefe]

(09-04-2011 12:35 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

@MikeCF: I've fucking "traveled" and can tell you this: half of the shit I see around the world has an American cultural stamp on it. The United States may be drowning in its own excess now, but it's left a massive cultural and political legacy all over the globe.

Exactly. Nothing makes me laugh harder than some dumb-ass hipsters ranting about poor American tastes or muslim teenagers hating on America while they turn up the volume on Eminem.

[Basil Ransom]

Love for one's country comes not from a cost benefit calculus. It is an attachment to the way things are, to the assembly of traditions, places and people that comprise one's life. I'm sure if I grew up in the Bernese Alps, I'd be a patriotic Swiss. Though I understand the aims here, a list of positives is beside the point to me. If it were merely a list of positives, I might find a country that improves upon this list in every regard, and renounce America.

I found some writings by G.K. Chesterton, and he expresses it incredibly:

G.K. Chesterton Wrote:

"But he must not ask, “Why am I arbitrarily made a partner with So-and-so?” He must not say, “What rational difference is there between spades and diamonds?” If he really loves his kind, he will, as far as he can, and in the great mass of things, play the parts given him. He will preserve this gay and impetuous conservatism; he will throw himself into the competitive sports of nationality; he will walk with relish in the ancient theatricals of religion...

A man who loves humanity and ignores patriotism is ignoring humanity...

Cosmopolitanism gives us one country, and it is good; nationalism gives us a hundred countries, and every one of them is the best. Cosmopolitanism offers a positive, patriotism a chorus of superlatives. Patriotism begins the praise of the world at the nearest thing, instead of beginning it at the most distant, and thus it insures what is, perhaps, the most essential of all earthly considerations, that nothing upon earth shall go without its due appreciation. Wherever there is a strangely-shaped mountain upon some lonely island, wherever there is a nameless kind of fruit growing in some obscure forest, patriotism insures that this shall not go into darkness without being remembered in a song...

Each of us thinks his own country is the best in the world, just as each of us might think his own mother the best in the world.

On a fundamental level, hating one's country is unmanly, akin to hating oneself. Whenever I meet someone who's positively proud of their background, traditions and people, I can't help but like them a little. Hating one's origins is ignoble and debasing. Provided they have some grace about it, it's a refreshing change to the consumer of tasteless modern popular culture.

Personally, there is a lot I dislike about America, but I don't really see those things as essential to its character. Or I'm content to ignore certain aspects as confined to the lower strata, like crime and tastelessness. Maybe I'm just deluding myself and living in the past to be patriotic, admiring a country that no longer exists as it once did.

The unfortunate thing about America is that just as it was coming into its own, and becoming a real civilization, modernism struck. The West began to lose confidence in itself after World War I; it's most apparent in art, where the commitment to beauty and truth was tossed, in favor of the modern and avant garde. The war on beauty and truth continues apace, as phenomenons like feminism and fatties continues.

"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." - Oscar Wilde

[Excelsior]

Things I like about the United States of America...

1. Money. This is one of the best places in the world to get rich, or at least it has been historically. That opportunity for advancement may not have been doled out equally between all Americans, but its presence has been felt and I do appreciate it. There is/has been a ton of opportunity in this country, which explains why so many have tried to come here over time.

2. Cheap fuel, ease of car ownership (for better or worse-as a car lover, I like this).

3. Geographic diversity.

4. American citizenship has its benefits when it comes to travelling and seeing the world.

5. American football.

...that's about all I can think of right now.

[thegmanifesto]

These usually end up on everyone's list that likes America:

1. The NFL (I just can't get enough of huge guys in tight pants hugging each other! I love spending hours upon hours of my life watching 24 year olds on TV that don't care about me!)

2. Cheap Gas! (I love cars and spending time in traffic! One day I hope to buy the two door BWM and really mack chicks!)

3. Cheap Ipods! (I don't leave home with out it!)

4. Our Entertainment (Hollywood is really putting out some great movies! Did you see that new Vince Vaughn crack up! It was so funny!)

The people that don't chant "USA" are the people that the above 4 don't matter.

[Aliblahba]

I like the infrastructure in the U.S. It feels good to roll down the interstate on a bike at 85 mph, and not worry about crashing due to a substandard road. This includes clean, running water, flushing toilets and trash disposal.

I like the supermarcado less than a mile from my house. I can buy good food cheap, and practice my Spanish at the same time.

I like Harley Davidson and GMC.

I like and respect the laws in the U.S. I try to abide by them, sometimes.

I like eating fried chicken with my fingers, and not w/ a fork an knife.

I like car shows, gun shows, bike rallys, and the insanity the latter brings.

I even like What-a-burger too!

I like the National Parks and Forests Teddy R. reserved for us.

I like being patriotic and mounting the American and Marine Corps flags on the front of my house.

I like that if someone fucked w/ those flags my neighbors would kick their ass if I wasn't home.

I like that when my sister held a robber at gunpoint earlier this year, the cops responded in less than 5 minutes, and praised her for having the ability to defend herself. The same praise came from the neighborhood too.

[Gunner]

The supermarkets and Amazon.

You enter a supermarket and it's like a dream. 30 flavors of yoghurt wow, in España there are like 6.

If you go to http://www.amazon.com you can buy almost whatever you want and is going to be at your door.

And even with all these things, I could never find a nice chimichurri =/

[speakeasy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPGyt3ZDv...ata_player

[Roosh]

Here's my list:

http://www.rooshv.com/things-i-love-about-america

Quote:

Most of the things I missed were based on our consumer culture: choice, convenience, and selection.

[Tuthmosis]

(09-04-2011 02:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPGyt3ZDv...ata_player

I've played this song three times already. Hadn't heard it before: