[finalstep]

So I tried this when I traveled to Laos over the winter and it worked amazing, banged 8 girls by doing absolutely nothing. Some were willing to go at it right on the spot, some I took out, but saved me a lot of time and effort, allowed me to ditch a couple that catfished on the spot, et.

I tried this again on a trip to Greece in April and girls were not really willing to do this, most wanted to meet out, some wanted it to be in a group setting... clearly a different culture.

Now i'm going to Brazil and Argentina in 7 weeks. This sounds like an appealing approach simply because they are far more dangerous countries and I don't really want to go to places I don't know to meet chicks in Rio.

My question for those who lived or tried this there, do Brazil and Argentina have the type of culture where girls (7+, under 30) would be open to meeting you right at your hotel? Not sure how much it helps here, but I am white and the hotels I am staying at are quite expensive.

[Travel Museums]

I was in Laos too this winter traveling with a girl. I had fucked around a little with Tinder on previous trips, but found quality of the girls to be poor to the point of Tinder being a waste of time. You matched with 7+ there? Where?? I didn't even see them to swipe on. Even after traveling the whole country I found overall quality low (similar to isan). Some diamonds in the rough here and there. Tinder really only seemed viable in Vientiane anyway which is worth about 3 days max. I'm curious how much back and forth you devoted to getting them over?

[finalstep]

(07-13-2017 02:12 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

I was in Laos too this winter traveling with a girl. I had fucked around a little with Tinder on previous trips, but found quality of the girls to be poor to the point of Tinder being a waste of time. You matched with 7+ there? Where?? I didn't even see them to swipe on. Even after traveling the whole country I found overall quality low (similar to isan). Some diamonds in the rough here and there. Tinder really only seemed viable in Vientiane anyway which is worth about 3 days max.

Really? I went to Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia on the same trip I thought Laos girls were at the top (proportionately). Obviously Thailand had more options, I used thaifriendly there, but per what I read Thailand is an outlier and that was to be expected. I switched between tinder and dateinasia for Laos, and met 1 girl who was on thaifriendly but lived in Laos, she was actually the hottest I had on the trip.

Not much time at all, like 5 messages tops for most. I played the "business man from nyc" card a lot, from what I was told prior to going they look at Americans as a ticket out of poverty, maybe that's what did it.

[Travel Museums]

I felt like an ATM/meal ticket in Cambodia. Less so elsewhere.

[ProGambler]

I've done this in SP, Brazil after a short meeting. Almost did it with a girl I had never met too but she flaked.

[Ringo]

(07-13-2017 01:55 PM)finalstep Wrote:  

So I tried this when I traveled to Laos over the winter and it worked amazing, banged 8 girls by doing absolutely nothing. Some were willing to go at it right on the spot, some I took out, but saved me a lot of time and effort, allowed me to ditch a couple that catfished on the spot, et.

I tried this again on a trip to Greece in April and girls were not really willing to do this, most wanted to meet out, some wanted it to be in a group setting... clearly a different culture.

Now i'm going to Brazil and Argentina in 7 weeks. This sounds like an appealing approach simply because they are far more dangerous countries and I don't really want to go to places I don't know to meet chicks in Rio.

My question for those who lived or tried this there, do Brazil and Argentina have the type of culture where girls (7+, under 30) would be open to meeting you right at your hotel? Not sure how much it helps here, but I am white and the hotels I am staying at are quite expensive.

Can't comment on Argentina, but speaking about Brazil this is a bad idea.

You may be more likely to pull it off as a foreigner than I would as a local. But even girls that I build good rapport with in real life (be it through a good approach, solid conversation, maybe even light/heavy make out if at a club) are usually wary or uncomfortable coming over straight to my pad.

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This sounds like an appealing approach simply because they are far more dangerous countries and I don't really want to go to places I don't know to meet chicks in Rio.

I have to be honest, this type of mindset will get you subpar results - look at the guys in the SP thread who are mostly relying on Tinder or gringo oriented nightlife. Real life quality destroys online quality. Tinder specially has been on a downhill sprint for the past 2 years; Happn is arguably better (although I haven't used since early 2016) but still low yield.

Also keep in mind the same "danger" you see when going out girls see when going to a complete stranger's hotel room for their first meet.

If you want to optimize your time, do either a day date or evening date very close to your hotel room.

Day date could be trying some açaí (say you never tried it before but there's a place you've heard is good) and then drag the girl to your room to see pictures of your travels, watch a movie, etc.

Evening date could be to ask them to meet you at a diner (lanchonete) to grab something to eat and then go out. But meet them in very casual attire (shorts, flip flops), and tell them you have to go to your room to change clothes. When you get there, same routine - show some pictures, put music on, and forget all about going out again.

[Shimmy]

I was in Argentina and it was hard enough to get girls to meet on dates. Some even got offended pitching a date too soon. Being there 2 weeks I only got one local flag and decided to push for foreigners and had much more luck.

[kronenbourg]

I can only comment on Argentina, but chances that this approach will work are close to zero. Argentina is not an easy country and upper-/middle class girls don't really use only dating much at all.

[finalstep]

Well what I am looking for when I travel is high numbers without having to spend an entire day warming up the girl. I do like to spend my time hanging out with friends, exploring, etc so investing too much time into a single girl who may not be the type to put out on the first date and on top of that doesn't speak much English (making the date boring) isn't really my style when abroad. I live in NYC there're tons of travelers here to do that with. My day game is fine, what I really value from online is the ability to very quickly weed out girls who are likely not going to put out quickly.

How much value is there on a white American with an expensive hotel (which I guess girls will associate with money) in these regions. I know in SE Asia there is a ton and that got me the flag a lot with hardly any effort. Is it that much different in a country like Brazil where there is a ton of poverty?

[Shimmy]

Nothing is as easy as Indonesia and the Philippines. Best you will get is Colombia and Peru but even then it's not nearly as easy. In either place unless you're looking to bang 4-5s exclusively you aren't getting many girls coming straight over. If you take them out on a date it's a different story. You're probably better off in NYC than those places, it's the easiest place in the US.

You will hate Argentina, to put it in perspective the easiest girl I banged in Argentina was from NYC and I was trying way harder with local girls.

[GlobalMan]

I would rather spend an afternoon out and about Buenos Aires seducing an enragingly sexy Porteña - with all the intricacies and locksmithing that demands - which may or may not bear fruit, than spend my time inside a dank Manila hotel (they all have that smell regardless of price) having multiple dead eyed and silent Filipinas delivered to my door.

Such afternoons should not be considered wasted time in life, they are infinitely better than spending the time swooping dudes and touring the "sites".

[finalstep]

(07-15-2017 01:26 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

Nothing is as easy as Indonesia and the Philippines. Best you will get is Colombia and Peru but even then it's not nearly as easy. In either place unless you're looking to bang 4-5s exclusively you aren't getting many girls coming straight over. If you take them out on a date it's a different story. You're probably better off in NYC than those places, it's the easiest place in the US.

You will hate Argentina, to put it in perspective the easiest girl I banged in Argentina was from NYC and I was trying way harder with local girls.

You think Indonesia and Philippines are easier than Thailand?

NYC is not the easiest place in the US, Vegas, Texas, Jersey Shore, Philly and several others are much easier.

Well yea that's because you banged a girl who was on vacation that's almost always easier than a local because her mindset is different.

[finalstep]

(07-15-2017 02:36 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

I would rather spend an afternoon out and about Buenos Aires seducing an enragingly sexy Porteña - with all the intricacies and locksmithing that demands - which may or may not bear fruit, than spend my time inside a dank Manila hotel (they all have that smell regardless of price) having multiple dead eyed and silent Filipinas delivered to my door.

Such afternoons should not be considered wasted time in life, they are infinitely better than spending the time swooping dudes and touring the "sites".

Yea but I don't speak the language. If I was in Australia I would agree with you 100%, because the date would be fun and the girl would show me around. I don't necessarily want to spend an afternoon with a chick I can't talk to in a very dangerous country where people get mugged all the time...that's my main reason for asking this

[GlobalMan]

(07-13-2017 01:55 PM)finalstep Wrote:  

My question for those who lived or tried this there, do Brazil and Argentina have the type of culture where girls (7+, under 30) would be open to meeting you right at your hotel?

Regarding Argentina, the answer to your question is simply no, not unless she is an escort anyway.

Brazil I have less experience, but I don't think you'll find anything similar to the situation in Indonesia or Phils.

Not speaking the languages is going to be a major disadvantage in either country.

And, I would certainly not say it is "very dangerous" in Buenos Aires, people are not getting mugged "all the time". You need to be cautious certain areas, sure, but there is no reason avoid going out and enjoying the city. Brazil, there is a greater risk if this, depending on the city.

[NextStop100]

In Brazil, I have done it, but many are hesitant... usually citing safety reasons.

[Travel Museums]

I've been in São Paulo about a month. I haven't devoted much effort to Tinder because the quality is poor. Mostly the girls are off the radar ugly.

I've matched with a ton but have zero interest. The few decent to hot ones I've matched live very far away and expected me to do the translating. Too busy. The convos fizzled out.

I set up a date the first week with a decent black girl who met me on Paulista. Walked her back to my place in Jardim for coffee with minimal LMR. She spoke no English but was willing to do most of the translating. She later said I was her birthday present to herself. So probably an exception. She came over again with almost notice, brought groceries, made dinner, spent the night.

I'd recommend daygame over online. However I've been very disappointed in the quality walking around. I met a decent professional woman on Paulista who spent this weekend with me. Sexy, classy brought over a bottle of Chilean wine and went to Embu together.

I'd avoid the nightlife here. When people say SP is as expensive as NY this is what they're talking about? Because I haven't found it all that expensive. But I skipped the clubs of Vila Olimpia and Itaim Bibi. Reading the threads here it seems not even the local players have luck there. No ONS. One guy wrote about working on a girl for two months to get the lay.

My perspective is a lot of texting with a girl you met in real life is essentially the same as online bullshit. However you can actually know what the girl looks like, her true fluency,get an idea of her social class, how into you she is, etc.

Happn had prettier girls for sure. And closer proximity. But when I went direct or made date offers I got "wrong approach" "try again" type responses. Plus they asked me to pay for messages unless the girl liked me back. So gave up pretty quick.

There is another app that got me a catfish lay. PM of you want details.

[Mekorig]

(07-15-2017 03:46 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 01:55 PM)finalstep Wrote:  

My question for those who lived or tried this there, do Brazil and Argentina have the type of culture where girls (7+, under 30) would be open to meeting you right at your hotel?

Regarding Argentina, the answer to your question is simply no, not unless she is an escort anyway.

Brazil I have less experience, but I don't think you'll find anything similar to the situation in Indonesia or Phils.

Not speaking the languages is going to be a major disadvantage in either country.

And, I would certainly not say it is "very dangerous" in Buenos Aires, people are not getting mugged "all the time". You need to be cautious certain areas, sure, but there is no reason avoid going out and enjoying the city. Brazil, there is a greater risk if this, depending on the city.

Basically this. The fact that you are white or from the USA means little for a mid/high class girl, and just a little more to a low class girl. Also dont speaking at least a little of spanish makes you look like the stereotypical "ugly american" tourist.

[finalstep]

What's Paulista?

I get the day game thing, but yea without any language that will be tough. My night club game is solid though. How prone are Brazilian girls to the 5 minute dance >>> make out session >>> back to hotel approach?

[Travel Museums]

Paulista Avenue. High traffic area. Only place similar to NYC but with mostly ugly girls instead.

I don't know much about the São Paulo clubs. I skipped them. Why? Not worth my effort. I'm functionally illiterate in this country. And dead tired sightseeing everyday. Go out starting at 1am with virtually no chance for a ONS. No thanks. An RVFer pulled me out with him on a Sat night. We hit D-Edge and a few others. Complete waste unless you like to suck cock.

Read the threads. Local players leave empty handed from the high end venues. Then spend months trying to bang a club girl. Sure she's hot. Maybe your stellar club game will reduce that to a few hours? Worth a shot if you're up for it. Personally I'd rather get at least 7 hours sleep. It's flu season.

But honestly what's up? You were talking about online straight to fucks now your saying club game instant makeouts...

[crispytaco]

I did it in Brasil. In my first trip, girls came to my apt straight and then bang. No exception. However second time most flaked. I am not sure what was different, but I felt it like different places.

[Ringo]

(07-19-2017 08:37 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

Paulista Avenue. High traffic area. Only place similar to NYC but with mostly ugly girls instead.

I don't know much about the São Paulo clubs. I skipped them. Why? Not worth my effort. I'm functionally illiterate in this country. And dead tired sightseeing everyday. Go out starting at 1am with virtually no chance for a ONS. No thanks. An RVFer pulled me out with him on a Sat night. We hit D-Edge and a few others. Complete waste unless you like to suck cock.

Read the threads. Local players leave empty handed from the high end venues. Then spend months trying to bang a club girl. Sure she's hot. Maybe your stellar club game will reduce that to a few hours? Worth a shot if you're up for it. Personally I'd rather get at least 7 hours sleep. It's flu season.

But honestly what's up? You were talking about online straight to fucks now your saying club game instant makeouts...

TM, there's so much wrong with this post.

It's very clear that your main focus travelling (at least in SP) is NOT gaming girls, but doing other activities.

Your view is completely skewed and incorrect for many reasons. You don't speak the language, you don't go out often but the times you did you went to cougar or gringo places, you don't enjoy nightlife, you don't want to go to the high end places, you don't want to spend much, you don't have local connections, you do online and day game more than night game (both of which are slower to yield results), and you want the top 8+ girls who speak english and you don't have to work much for. And that's just to name a few aspects.

[finalstep]

If all this is true, i'm not sure what's going on in Brazil these days. In the US, Brazilian girls put out quick, faster than Asians for sure. Is it somehow reversed in their homeland?

What's the best approach here, aside from spending weeks working the chick? I'm only staying a few days in each city...

[Mr.Carry]

It won't work in Brazil.

My advice is: avoid brazilian girls. They are ugly, boring and they will try anything to get a visa or your money.

[finalstep]

(07-22-2017 08:10 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  

It won't work in Brazil.

My advice is: avoid brazilian girls. They are ugly, boring and they will try anything to get a visa or your money.

That's kinda contradicting dude. If they will try anything to get a visa, that is exactly the kinda girl i'm looking for lol.

Disappointed to hear brazilian girls are ugly though. In the states they're just about the hottest

[Lino]

(07-23-2017 07:56 AM)finalstep Wrote:  

(07-22-2017 08:10 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  

It won't work in Brazil.

My advice is: avoid brazilian girls. They are ugly, boring and they will try anything to get a visa or your money.

That's kinda contradicting dude. If they will try anything to get a visa, that is exactly the kinda girl i'm looking for lol.

Disappointed to hear brazilian girls are ugly though. In the states they're just about the hottest

If you are the typical gringo who doesn't know anything about the local culture and doesn't show any interest in it, doesn't speak a single word of portuguese and doesn't want to do any effort then I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.

I spent a month in Rio and loved it, but I also love the Brazilian culture, food, music and did the effort to learn the basics in portuguese. Sex comes naturally when you have a good interaction with a woman, these women are very warm and passionate but most of them came across many gringos who think they will pull pussy just because they are european/american, if it's obvious with you then you'll get only the gold diggers, if you are ok with it then give it a try.

There is always a proportion of gringo chasers or anglosphere fans, girls who take private english lessons, like american rock and dream about the US. I avoid these chicks usually as there are plenty of them in Europe and usually it doesnt take them long to adopt the same shitty attitudes their western conterparts have.

In summary I dont think Brazil is the best place for what you are looking for, Brazil is such an amazing country, it has a lot to offer, if your aim is solely easy pussy thrn as others mentioned some parts of Asia are probably a better bet.