[The Beast1]

Israeli women are HOT. Big boobs, thick asses.

I was getting a lot of attention, but i'm married so I think a lot of that comes from forbidden fruit syndrome. Most of my lays came from Jewish girls so who the heck knows what to believe.

OP do you speak Hebrew?

[Valen007]

(06-06-2017 07:59 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Israeli women are HOT. Big boobs, thick asses.

I was getting a lot of attention, but i'm married so I think a lot of that comes from forbidden fruit syndrome. Most of my lays came from Jewish girls so who the heck knows what to believe.

OP do you speak Hebrew?

I do.

[Valen007]

After 1 day after the date I texted the woman from Moldova I went out with 2 times total and after brief some conversation asked if she wants to meet up. She apologized and said she is busy today, without proposing any other day.

What do you guys vote for:

1)Not text her at all (she nearly never texts me on her own) and wait untill she texts me and probably proposes to get out?

2)Wait 3 days and repeat the shit.

3)Wait 3 days and text her but not ask her out.

[Valen007]

On Tinder I met a 27 y.o. woman that we have a common acquaintance with.
During the conversation she behaved rudely, saying that 'All good guys are already married, all that is left is garbage' , implying that I am a 'garbage'.

Then she disappeared and didn't bother to reply or say 'good bye' . The next day she added me on Facebook. I asked her about why she disappeared yesterday and added me today.

She answered like she could hardly write sentences with more thann two words. Then she wished me good night and told 'we'll talk'.
The next day she asked me if I want to come to her town (which is 100 km from mine) and to sit somewhere.

I annswered her 'yes' and asked if she wants to come to another town at the middle of the way. It would take me a lot of time to get to her town.
She bluntly answered 'no'. I wrote to her that I can come tomorrow in the morning. She replied she is busy and not sure.

This unappreciative behaviour made me a bit angry and I wrote to her that if we meet it will not be at her town, but either in another town or at my town.
She asked what does it mean and I said that I can translate it to her if needed into Russian. We texted in Hebrew.

She said there is no need and unfriended me on facebook.
Ugly stupid unpleasant girl - this is the typical shit that is on Russian Israeli dating market.

[Chetthebaker]

Sounds like this chick sucks andyou dodged a bullet. Keep trying to meet other women, and maybe give online dating a rest- these are the lowest quality, most jaded women out there. If you approach enough you should be able to meet a woman who isn't like this one.

[Rekkd]

Damn I would be so pissed off if bitches talked to me like that. Must suck to be in your place, maybe try girls that are not Eastern European? Maybe try to be equally rude when they say shit like that with a smile.

I think you need to up your SMV by working out, getting dressed better, new hairstyle, better job?

[Valen007]

(06-08-2017 06:03 PM)Rekkd Wrote:  

Damn I would be so pissed off if bitches talked to me like that. Must suck to be in your place, maybe try girls that are not Eastern European? Maybe try to be equally rude when they say shit like that with a smile.

I think you need to up your SMV by working out, getting dressed better, new hairstyle, better job?

What kind of bitch are you talking about - the Moldova or with FB?
She didn't say rude things when I asked her out, she even apologized. But that she didn't offer anything - any other date instead - it sucks.

[Valen007]

(06-08-2017 04:52 PM)Chetthebaker Wrote:  

Sounds like this chick sucks andyou dodged a bullet. Keep trying to meet other women, and maybe give online dating a rest- these are the lowest quality, most jaded women out there. If you approach enough you should be able to meet a woman who isn't like this one.

Yes this Tinder bitch is absolute garbage, both in looks and in behaviour (which usually come together here).

[Irenicus]

I'll chime in.


Before I start writing a wall of text, you, OP, must know this, very important thing.


Being on this site, you are automatically, in the eyes of the sheeple, qualified yourself as a rapist, sexist and so on. Yes, you, and the rest of us know that this is ridiculous, but try explaining that to the SJW's and sheeple they influence!. If caught, expect that you will, at very least, lose your job. Or get doxxed. So...don't use your real life name here. Yes, I know that are many V's in Israel, but you can never be too careful.


Read Free Speech isn't Free, and you'll see what can happen to you if you make yourself known.




I'll address some points, and give some advice, from first hand experience (yes, I lived there, served in the IDF etc.).

Quote:

Dating scene in Israel is so strange. It seems that women are on drugs or something. You go to a date and have a good time and then next day you ask the woman if she wants out and she behaves inadequately, saying that you are strange or just stops answering you.

You called her WAY too early. Wait a few days at least. If the roles are reversed, still wait a few days. Remember, if you are a Beta in Israel, you will have a very, very hard time.

Quote:

However there are a lot of guys who have serious relationships and the fertility is highest in Europe with 3 kids for a woman. I wonder how all those guys manage to do it.

First and foremost, a vast majority of high quality girls get into relationship with high quality men in very young age (even before their IDF service) and they really do their best to maintain them. As it should be. For example, my mashakit tash (social worker attached to a unit) was married at 19. She could have request a discharge (married women do not need to serve - read how Bar Rafaeli faked her way out), but she chose not to. That says something about her character (if she takes her duties seriously, she will take care of her family duties seriously as well). And yes, she was hot (8+/10).


Second, thanks to the migrant invasion of Europe, a lot of European Jews (and people who have Jewish ancestry) migrate here. They are mostly young couples. And young couples make a lot of babies.


And finally, Haredim and Beduins have tons of children.




Now, the good stuff.


Personally, I think you could have done a lot better with Miss Moldova.

Quote:

The next day I texted her and proposed to meet at the same venue that we met the previous day - encouraged by her texting me ater the first date.
She replied hesitantly - "Don't know, busy today" .

Don't let her texts fool you next time. Remember, if you are too thirsty, you are screwed. And in Israel, you are totally screwed. And it seems that she recognized that, judging by her reply!

Quote:

I offered another day and again it was declined in a vague manner without her counter-proposing anything.

It made me quite angry and I wrote her that she is 'not serious' and that I have no time for people that are not serious. She responded kind of calmly but I wrote to her:
"Then we have nothing more to talk about."

Here you fucked it up, totally. Especially with the bolded part, where you have shown how thirsty you are. Don't be suprised if she never contacts you again.


What you should have done:

Quote:

YOU: (after a few days): I am at x, come join me. DON'T USE ''PLEASE''
HER: I can't because (reason).
YOU: K, bb . Then, approach some other girl

(week after)

YOU: I am at x, come join me. DON'T USE ''PLEASE''
HER: I can't because(reason).
YOU: Kk . And you never contact her again after that (delete all contacts).

Don't send her mean messages, or angry messages, like you did. Only losers do that. And you aren't a loser, I hope! Just cut off all contact, and find another (hopefully better) girl. Plenty of 'em.



Second, and final thing...why the fuck are you wasting time with ugly chicks? Especially with trashy girls? There are not worth a single fucking agorot!!! For fucks sake, it's summer. There are so many places right now where you can find good women - Tayelet, HaYarkon... .



Also, tell us about yourself, so that we can assist you. Are you in shape? Do you have a sense of style? Be very realistic, because they play a huge influence when attracting women -if you are fat and unattactive, don't expect to date a Gal Gadot lookalike.

[Valen007]

(06-09-2017 09:45 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

I'll chime in.


Before I start writing a wall of text, you, OP, must know this, very important thing.


Being on this site, you are automatically, in the eyes of the sheeple, qualified yourself as a rapist, sexist and so on. Yes, you, and the rest of us know that this is ridiculous, but try explaining that to the SJW's and sheeple they influence!. If caught, expect that you will, at very least, lose your job. Or get doxxed. So...don't use your real life name here. Yes, I know that are many V's in Israel, but you can never be too careful.


Read Free Speech isn't Free, and you'll see what can happen to you if you make yourself known.




I'll address some points, and give some advice, from first hand experience (yes, I lived there, served in the IDF etc.).

Quote:

Dating scene in Israel is so strange. It seems that women are on drugs or something. You go to a date and have a good time and then next day you ask the woman if she wants out and she behaves inadequately, saying that you are strange or just stops answering you.

You called her WAY too early. Wait a few days at least. If the roles are reversed, still wait a few days. Remember, if you are a Beta in Israel, you will have a very, very hard time.

Quote:

However there are a lot of guys who have serious relationships and the fertility is highest in Europe with 3 kids for a woman. I wonder how all those guys manage to do it.

First and foremost, a vast majority of high quality girls get into relationship with high quality men in very young age (even before their IDF service) and they really do their best to maintain them. As it should be. For example, my mashakit tash (social worker attached to a unit) was married at 19. She could have request a discharge (married women do not need to serve - read how Bar Rafaeli faked her way out), but she chose not to. That says something about her character (if she takes her duties seriously, she will take care of her family duties seriously as well). And yes, she was hot (8+/10).


Second, thanks to the migrant invasion of Europe, a lot of European Jews (and people who have Jewish ancestry) migrate here. They are mostly young couples. And young couples make a lot of babies.


And finally, Haredim and Beduins have tons of children.




Now, the good stuff.


Personally, I think you could have done a lot better with Miss Moldova.

Quote:

The next day I texted her and proposed to meet at the same venue that we met the previous day - encouraged by her texting me ater the first date.
She replied hesitantly - "Don't know, busy today" .

Don't let her texts fool you next time. Remember, if you are too thirsty, you are screwed. And in Israel, you are totally screwed. And it seems that she recognized that, judging by her reply!

Quote:

I offered another day and again it was declined in a vague manner without her counter-proposing anything.

It made me quite angry and I wrote her that she is 'not serious' and that I have no time for people that are not serious. She responded kind of calmly but I wrote to her:
"Then we have nothing more to talk about."

Here you fucked it up, totally. Especially with the bolded part, where you have shown how thirsty you are. Don't be suprised if she never contacts you again.


What you should have done:

Quote:

YOU: (after a few days): I am at x, come join me. DON'T USE ''PLEASE''
HER: I can't because (reason).
YOU: K, bb . Then, approach some other girl

(week after)

YOU: I am at x, come join me. DON'T USE ''PLEASE''
HER: I can't because(reason).
YOU: Kk . And you never contact her again after that (delete all contacts).

Don't send her mean messages, or angry messages, like you did. Only losers do that. And you aren't a loser, I hope! Just cut off all contact, and find another (hopefully better) girl. Plenty of 'em.



Second, and final thing...why the fuck are you wasting time with ugly chicks? Especially with trashy girls? There are not worth a single fucking agorot!!! For fucks sake, it's summer. There are so many places right now where you can find good women - Tayelet, HaYarkon... .



Also, tell us about yourself, so that we can assist you. Are you in shape? Do you have a sense of style? Be very realistic, because they play a huge influence when attracting women -if you are fat and unattactive, don't expect to date a Gal Gadot lookalike.

Dear Irenicus,
thank you a lot for the analysis you've done, there are lots of valuable observations and hints in it for me.

It is just interesting for me to see how really shitty ugly and trashy girls are - how they behave, how they talk. It is just kind of funny.

I don't have hot looks , I am a bit overweight but exercise regularly. I am also "Russian" - I am not sure if plays any role in Israel dating market.

I understand now that in Israel I should text a woman only after several days after the date or some contact with her - otherwise I am fucked up and should be seen quite not-giving-a-damn about the relationship.

What should I do now with Miss Moldova? -
text her/ wait & text / not text at all and be in the wait mode / delete her contacts?

[Irenicus]

No problem. Glad I could help.



If you are bit overweight, get rid of that fat asap. All girls, regardless of nationality and religion, like a good body. One year of basic compound exscersises (Starting Strength, for example) and proper nutrition will take care of that department. Develop some hobbies, if you haven't already. Which ones - only you can know!



Once you become a good looking guy (who hopefully has his shit trogether), nobody will give a fuck who, or what are you. That probably mattered in 1948 or 1991, but in 2017 it does not (from my personal observations).



Speaking of Miss Moldavia, I would ditch her - in my honest opinion, you screwed up. Her attraction to you is probably too low, and it would require way too much effort and energy to rekindle. Spend them on a new girl instead!



Finally, do not ever ask about how to get a certain girl. That's called Oneitis, and it's bad (take a look at my signature). Remember...pussy is not a rare resource. It's common, and rather easy to get.

[Valen007]

(06-09-2017 11:24 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

No problem. Glad I could help.



If you are bit overweight, get rid of that fat asap. All girls, regardless of nationality and religion, like a good body. One year of basic compound exscersises (Starting Strength, for example) and proper nutrition will take care of that department. Develop some hobbies, if you haven't already. Which ones - only you can know!



Once you become a good looking guy (who hopefully has his shit trogether), nobody will give a fuck who, or what are you. That probably mattered in 1948 or 1991, but in 2017 it does not (from my personal observations).



Speaking of Miss Moldavia, I would ditch her - in my honest opinion, you screwed up. Her attraction to you is probably too low, and it would require way too much effort and energy to rekindle. Spend them on a new girl instead!



Finally, do not ever ask about how to get a certain girl. That's called Oneitis, and it's bad (take a look at my signature). Remember...pussy is not a rare resource. It's common, and rather easy to get.

When a woman gives me her phone number , for how much time should I wait before contacting her?

When asking a woman out, what is the better way (if there is any) -
a) Do you want to meet today at x?
b) Come join me at x today.

[Irenicus]

Option B did well for me. You don't ask, you tell. Women LOVE to be LED!!It's in their DNA!



Since I see you are new, I really suggest that you stop posting (for a bit) on the forum, and learn. A lot of questions you asked (or will ask) have been asked like a million times before.. No wonder some people think you are a troll (trolls like to ask newbie, or very stupid questions).



This is a good place to start (Heartiste is the best resource as far as relationships and girls are concerned):


thread-42283.html


Also, check this article (very useful for you):

http://www.returnofkings.com/29444/11-fu...solid-game



Read (Day) Bang, Rational Male, Alpha Game, Captain Capitalism and you'll figure a lot of things out.


And finally, I suggest you meet up with other members from Israel ( I have met them in real life). Good guys. You can learn a lot from them.

[Valen007]

(06-10-2017 11:39 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

Option B did well for me. You don't ask, you tell. Women LOVE to be LED!!It's in their DNA!



Since I see you are new, I really suggest that you stop posting (for a bit) on the forum, and learn. A lot of questions you asked (or will ask) have been asked like a million times before.. No wonder some people think you are a troll (trolls like to ask newbie, or very stupid questions).



This is a good place to start (Heartiste is the best resource as far as relationships and girls are concerned):


thread-42283.html


Also, check this article (very useful for you):

http://www.returnofkings.com/29444/11-fu...solid-game



Read (Day) Bang, Rational Male, Alpha Game, Captain Capitalism and you'll figure a lot of things out.


And finally, I suggest you meet up with other members from Israel ( I have met them in real life). Good guys. You can learn a lot from them.

Thank you. I am not a troll. I will read the articles you suggested.

Are there meetups in PUA community in Israel?

[Rhyme or Reason]

(06-09-2017 11:24 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

Once you become a good looking guy (who hopefully has his shit trogether), nobody will give a fuck who, or what are you. That probably mattered in 1948 or 1991, but in 2017 it does not (from my personal observations).

Can you explain what you meant here?

[Irenicus]

(06-14-2017 10:58 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 11:24 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

Once you become a good looking guy (who hopefully has his shit trogether), nobody will give a fuck who, or what are you. That probably mattered in 1948 or 1991, but in 2017 it does not (from my personal observations).

Can you explain what you meant here?

Yes.


As you well know, Israel is a nation of Jewish immigrants.


When many of those immigrant came, they did their best to keep their own language, traditions etc. In many cases, that also meant that they rarely dated outside their own group. Back in the day, it was very rare to see, for example, a Polish Jew dating (not to mention marrying) an Iraqi Jew.


As time passed, the differences between those subgroups become blurred, and nowadays, they really don't matter that much. All those groups work trogether, date each other, intermarry and so on. Nobody (bar the haredim) cares about your background nowadays - which is a good thing. I am Zakai Aliyah (of Jewish descent, not really Jewish) and I did OK, considering that I had not clue about RvF and Red Pill. Again, if you got a really good (!!!) Game and SMV, you'll do fine here. Russian or not.

Quote:

Are there meetups in PUA community in Israel?

I do not know.