Defeating Islam Megathread
06-21-2017, 06:27 AM
A lot of people have mentioned that the “Islamists” or globalist politicians are the enemy. I disagree.
The biggest problem is general ignorance about Islam.
It’s unbelievable the amount of comments I see on social media that indicate that know nothing about Islam.
Here’s a list of things that can be done in your personal life
1. Realize that this is an ideological war
We can destroy ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. and it still won’t change anything; other groups will simply replace them. You have to realize that this is ideological war and the only thing that can stop Islam is by refuting the idea of Islam.
2. Educate the people you know about Islam.
Reach out to people that will be most likely to agree with you such as conservatives and libertarians. Also, atheist, agnostics and conservative denominations of Christianity will be open since they already oppose Islam but they may not be knowledgable enough about it to make an articulate critique. These people are ideological allies and will most open to hearing critiques of Islam. Then reach out to people who like and love you such as family members and close friends; these are the kinds of people that are least likely to dislike you and most likely to hear what you have to say. Although some stranger may call you an Islamophobe, it is unlikely that a family member will. Also, it takes many conversations to change someone’s mind. With your family and friends, you will see and speak to them enough so that it will cause a shift ideologically. The entire world doesn’t need to be convinced that Islam is bad; if 15-20% can be reached and organized, that is enough the effect change.
3. See yourself as sharing information.
Debating is useful when there is an audience but for a one on one conversation, it is a waste of time. Nobody like to think that they are wrong about something. Just share an article like an article discussing "The Perfect Man" billboard and let that be a springboard to discussing Muhammad and Islam.
4. Try to make small victories
Don't try to change someone’s worldview after one conversation. Trying to convince someone that Islam is evil is an uphill battle. It is easier to convince someone that Muhammad was not a good person or killing apostates is wrong. Once someone agrees with something small, it is easier to make bigger concessions down the line. Focus on trying to convince the listener of one thing. Then, with later conversation, convince them of something else.
5. Argue like a leftist
Leftists argue by making emotion filled language, presenting themselves as protectors of oppressed minorities and shaming person as a hateful bigots if they disagree. We can use the same strategy against Islam. Point out that female genital mutilation is a barbaric practice and if anyone disagrees, they are a sexist. This frames anyone who disagrees with you as a sexist and puts them in the awkward position of defending female genital mutilation.
6. See yourself as a human rights activist
Because essentially you are. You opposing honor killings, the murder of Christians, homosexuals, Jews, etc. because you are a decent person. Would someone calling you a mean name prevent you from stopping evil? It shouldn’t.
7. Every little bit counts
The concept of jihad sees jihad not only as fighting but as donating money to pro Islamist groups, or writing an editorial in favor of Islam, or initiating a lawsuit. All of these small actions further Islam. We too can take small action to fight Islam such as sharing an article or writing an anti-Islam tweet. You don’t know what article or video a person sees that will gradually change their mind. Speaking personally, I was indifferent about Islam until I read a short Bill Warner book.
8. Agree and add your own information
Leftists like to make talking points such as “The biggest victims of radical Islam are other Muslims”. Instead of claiming that other people are victimized by Islam, agree and add your own information. For example say “Yes, Muslim women are beaten, there is forced child marriage and people are killed for leaving Islam. In Sahih Bukhari it says (insert controversial quote)” This is why we need to fight against this radicalism.
With this response, a) you agree so you cannot be easily attacked as an Islamophobe, b) you point out the horrific practices of Islam, c) you point out that this is supported in the Muslim sources and d) you shared information the listener did not know.
9. Attack Muhammad
People think that if Muslims are attacked as a group, it is hateful and bigoted. It is more useful to attack Muhammad. If it can be pointed out that Muhammad was a sexist, homophobe, anti-semitic and so on and the Muslim sources support this, this puts opponents in the awkward position of defending what they say they are against. Also, it refutes the claim that something isn't "true Islam". That is the common defense when someone says the Islamic State is not Islamic.
10. Shame and make fun of the enemy
Many Muslims are, in fact, ashamed of Muhammad. They try to hide and deny Muhammad’s actions. Also, they go into a furious rage whenever someone makes fun of Muhammad. This is a weakness that can be exploited. When debating a Muslim, ask them why do they support a pedophile. If you are online, quote the Muslim sources and ask them to denounce it. If he denounces it, you can then ask “If you disagree with the Muslim sources so much, then why are you Muslim?” If he doesn't denounce it, accuse him of supporting it.
11. Use Social Media
I don’t recommend posting super controversial information under your personal name. But there are things that everyone agrees is wrong. Those are the kinds of stories you can post under your real name. While there are a lot of people who don’t want to ban Islam, a lot of people are willing to ban some of the more controversial practices like honor killings and stoning adulterers. So go with that. Social media is the easiest way to spread information.
12. Share your thoughts after a terrorist attack
With terrorists attacks becoming more and more common, leftists’ excuses and solutions seem more and more delusional. This is an opportunity to provide people with alternate explanations of what’s going on and what can be done about it. People are not believing the media, politicians and liberals that Islam is a religion of peace and are looking for alternate explanations. I remember with Charlie Hebdo and the Nice attacks, people had put French flags over their Facebook picture. Such attacks have become so common now that people don’t bother with such virtue signaling. But they don’t want to change their views of Islam being peace. So they simply ignore the attacks. This provides an opportunity of you providing an explanation or at the very least, linking to a Robert Spencer or David Wood video.
13. How to Debate Online If You Must
Once in a while, you will be forced to defend your position. It is ideal to do this online because there is more likely to be an audience and it is easier to quote Islamic sources and link to websites. Remember, your goal is not to convince the person you are arguing with but it is to embarrass them. However, be calm and respectful because you do not want to be seen as being a bully. The person who seems to be angrier during a debate will be viewed as being the loser. Think of responses to the most common arguments in favor of Islam in advance such as “Islam is peaceful”, “Islamic jihad is caused by Western Imperialism”, “The Crusades!!!” “Christianity is just as violent” and so on. If you debate liberals and Muslim apologists, they make the same arguments over and over again so it is easy to prepare a response in advance in order to refute them. If you debate with people on Facebook or some online forum, the worse that is likely to happen to you is being called an Islamophobe and being defriended. At this point you can point out that they cannot defend their argument in a rational and logical way and must resort to name calling.
That’s all I have for now. Will try to think of other suggestions later.
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