[Jose Pedro]

Hello everybody,

I don't know if I should next this girl, or be patient with her (while looking for more girls of course) and keep escalating step by step while trying to make her comfortable (but how?). My plan is to bring her to my place this Tuesday and try to escalate more, because last time we were together in her room she seemed very horny, even though she didn't let me undress her (not even taking her shirt off).

Here is the the background of this situation.
Met a Polish girl in Lublin in January doing daygame. Due to her being busy with exams or away at home I couldn't meet her until March. I applied Bang Poland's and Day Bang's text scripts to keep her interested, and finally met her.

Date 1: we go to a café. I didn't escalate too much because we were in a bar, but did some light kino with the excuse that I was learning the name of the body parts in Polish, and I made her my Polish language teacher. We both had fun. At the end of the date I went for the kiss, but she turned her face. I made plans to cook with her in her flat and she agreeded. During the date she stated a few times that she's stronger than me(she often tried to wrestle me in her bed), and I laughed at her saying "that's cute".
Funny fact: she told me that her friend tried to cockblock me (or her) before meeting telling her to flake, because we met in the street and she could be in danger meeting me.

Date 2: I go to her flat. Once inside she offers me something to drink. I ask for some alcohol (I don't need it, but she may loosen with it), but she doesn't have, so she gives me juice. No problem.
We go to her room, and we first have some awkward silence sitting on her bed.
I break it and also apply some kino while I repeat some body parts in Polish and she seems impressed. Fast forward after some pillow wrestling on her part: I throw her on the bed and I make out with her. We make out a little bit and then we prepare and eat dinner. I finish my dinner and lay down on her bed while she finishes her dinner. She finishes and we start to make out again. I go caveman and I get above her, dry humping her for some time, enjoying her body, and she seems to enjoy it (she had some heavy breathing).
I tried to remove her shirt but she didn't let me.
I also tried to slip my hand inside her stockings a few times but she didn't let me in (even though she had no problem with my hands on her tits).
I give up, make out more gently, and she starts having her hands all over my back
I leave some time later and she texted me good night.

After this date I thought that it's possible to bang her sooner than later, so I decide to read the Dominance chapter of the Sex God Method.

Fast forward to Date 3 (this Wednesday), again in her flat, with a lame excuse about showing her some photos: I went caveman and talked dirty to her, and eventually she got horny. I tried to finger her (or slip my hand in her panties) a few times but she didn't let me. However, I was able to fully play with her tits (tit and nipple). She also seemed very comfortable with my dick (had to stop her due to my 2 years of noFap, didn't want to cum in 30 seconds ) if I put it in her hand. I don't understand why could I not finger her or even take off her t-shirt (maybe I should have just done it, pure dominance?)
Important: while in her room, she asked me about what is what we're doing, and I just told her "we're just two adults having fun", and she seemed to like the answer.

I decide to "de-escalate" a bit, inviting her on Friday to join me taking some photos. She offers me to reschedule to another time on Friday or postpone it to Saturday. I decide to postpone it to this Saturday.

Date 4: she tells me she's going to be late, I shrug it off, do some daygame while she waits for me and then go get her. We went for a walk in the park, and basically I didn't do anything further than kissing her ear, teasing her smelling her neck or talking very close to her lips.

Sorry for this wall of text, I'm quite inexperienced with girls and I'd like to receive some help so I get better with these situations.

Best regards,
Jose Pedro

EDIT 1: I planned in taking her to my place this Tuesday, but my gut tells (also based on what I read here) me to go radio silent for a week and restart.
Should I cancel the date for Tuesday next week and go radio silent?
Or just tell her "wear a skirt and heels; see you in (place where we meet) at 20:00" and try to escalate a bit and go with the flow?

[CJM]

(03-26-2017 10:33 AM)Jose Pedro Wrote:  

She also seemed very comfortable with my dick (had to stop her due to my 2 years of noFap, didn't want to cum in 30 seconds )

This seems mildly extreme. By mildly I mean "wtf"

(03-26-2017 10:33 AM)Jose Pedro Wrote:  

if I put it in her hand. I don't understand why could I not finger her or even take off her t-shirt (maybe I should have just done it, pure dominance?)

Sounds like she was either on her period or was possibly unshaven and self-conscious about it. Or, she might have a boyfriend. Beyond that, I can't think of any reason you couldn't close the deal in that situation.

[Jose Pedro]

CJM:
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Sounds like she was either on her period or was possibly unshaven and self-conscious about it. Or, she might have a boyfriend. Beyond that, I can't think of any reason you couldn't close the deal in that situation.
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I just couldn't take off her clothes, maybe I should have just be a caveman and ripped her clothes off... About the boyfriend thing: I don't think she has, at least when I approached her she didn't have...

She didn't flake after that day and she didn't misbehaved, so I will suppose she is interested and this may take time...

[Rekk'd]

Maybe try kissing her neck, shoulders, and while doing that smell her slowly and compliment her like "you smell great" or "you have a beautiful body" or you can make it a little dirty but not too much like "you won't believe the things I want to do to you right now".

Maybe some members won't like what I just suggested but it works for me every time. The girl starts to usually get more comfortable and I do that mainly to make them not feel subconscious about their bodies or whatever.

Also I don't go for fingering when she has clothes on, I believe that would make the girl feel like you wana get right to it, unless she's very down but your girl doesn't seem so. I think if she becomes comfortable her dark side will come out, they all do!

[RatInTheWoods]

Contrary to the impression you might get reading this forum, not all girls want anal and choking 15 mins after you meet her randomly on the street.

You are making solid progress, got to her feeling your cock and you feeling her tits.

Sometimes the "three date Kate" takes 5-7 dates.

Hang in there bro and be nice to her, enjoy the slow burn of lust build up.

Don't go caveman, but do go normal man and esculate and keep slowly pushing forward!

Good luck

[Jose Pedro]

Whooops, I choked her a little bit.

Jokes aside (I really did it, just very gently to avoid problems), I will take it easier from now on, and will keep escalating in baby steps when she comes to my place or I go to hers, or very light teasing if we meet outdoors.

Thanks everyone for the help.

[ksbms]

That many dates too many even for a virgin. Caveman her the next time and if she doesn't put out kick her out and don't see ever again but before that make it clear it's her last chance. Be a man for Christ's sake. For now she's milking your attention for nothing. If no score next time (which is already too many), NEXT her.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Nah - some girls have such LMR. There are those who make it a rule to hold out as long as possible in order to not be sluts in your eyes.

The West used to be the same once. Occasionally you meet one of those in EE - or maybe not so occasionally depending on the type of girl.

[jselysianeagle]

I've made the mistake in the past of becoming too invested in the girl emotionally/mentally and/or going all out on dates (fancy bars/restaurants). Needless to say, when by date #3 or 4 they didn't put out, I was sore, lol.

The trick is to pull back. Don't get too invested, talk to other girls, keep your dates fun, simple and cheap (but still classy - perhaps just one round of drinks at a mid-level type of place). That way even if things don't pan out the way you want them to, you won't have wasted too much in terms of time, money and energy.

[Rocha]

She is banging other guy. Next.

[Jose Pedro]

I "banged" her. It was my first time, so it was quite bizarre for me.

I opted for the optimistic way (I am not her boyfriend, she can be banging somebody else, attention whoring, etc, but I wanted my piece of the cake, and also I'm leaving Poland on July so she can do what she wants) and met her yesterday 28. Took the risk of meeting her, because the only thing I can loose is my virginity, maybe time if things don't go well (I hardly ever spend money on the few dates I've ever done).

After some logistical problems and getting in my place, everything went smooth as silk (the room was set for the bang and I took it easy escalating, also helped myself with strawberries with cream). Rekk'd, your advice worked wonders on this girl.

Not even one attempt of LMR or shit tests on her side (and she even helped me to penetrate her) and I "banged" (better said tried to bang) her, and also experimented eating her out, the spiderman technique (unluckily I got tired easily) to finger her, and some dirty talk from my part, besides trying different positions.

One thing about the spiderman technique: I doubt if I made her orgasm but she told me she couldn't walk after it and some try on my part to bang her, could she be bullshitting me due to my lack of experience? I also saw her getting up, trying to walk and falling on the bed...

I'll keep daygaming and creating (or at least trying to create) abundance while I'm not back in Spain.
Also I'll keep reading the Sex God Method.

[jselysianeagle]

Heh. Just goes to show, a bit of patience and persistence can sometimes pay off. Good thing you didn't next her immediately!

[Rekk'd]

Haha I'm glad you got the bang!! I'm also happy my advice worked too.

It also takes alot of balls to daygame, to be honest I have insane approach anxiety for daygame but nightgame I'm good. You should be proud because not alot of guys daygame let alone turn them into notches.

[Rocha]

José, I skipped the part you said you where a virgin. Very well done! And that it will be the first of many more and better pussy.
Sorry for the bad advice in the previous post.

Mis felicitaciones, y ahora sólo seguir así.

[AntiMediocrity]

Classic Polka "don't give it up too early" mindset.

You have to give more leeway for EE girls, and in fact if you're pursuing LTR's it's for the best as it helps you determine whether she's worth investing in before your post sex endorphins start taking over.

It's not like America where a girl isn't into you if she doesn't give up the V within two dates, nor will she think you're disinterested if you don't try to bone her just as quickly.

Carouselling or any kind of sexuality is discouraged in this country, so you have to imagine that you grew up in a country where x activity is considered to have extremely negative repercussions - you're not exactly going to jump at the opportunity to do it when it arrives. But maybe you'll meet someone who you have built up enough trust with to try it.

Good job overall. These Polish girls, they take a lot of work especially if their sex count is low but boy once you get past that threshold they are extremely passionate about lovemaking.

If you do meet a Polka who gives it up within a few dates, don't even consider her marriage material. She's westernised and has probably had a lot of club dick.

[PapayaTapper]

(03-28-2017 06:40 PM)Jose Pedro Wrote:  

I "banged" her. It was my first time, so it was quite bizarre for me.