[General Stalin]

She looks like a 6 - 6.5 to me all around. Looks older. Upper arm fat, fat thighs, plain face. Fake tits and tons of makeup are a nice touch.

[tremont]

Body > Face

I want to see a curvy body and a booty that sticks out in the back. I want to see hips wide enough to birth many children. The model looking girl with a beautiful face and stick figure featureless body doesn't do it for me.

Rose Monroe in particular is exactly my type.

What I find interesting is how some of you guys mentioned wanting to fuck butterfaces but only LTR a beauty. Ask yourself how much of this is social conditioning? Do you want that beautiful girl because she actually makes you happy or do you want her so you can show off your arm candy in public and "prove" to everyone else that you "won" the mating game?

For LTR, other things matter a lot more anyway. She needs to meet a certain standard in beauty (mostly measured by my boner) to get in the door. After that its all personality and whether or not my life is actually better for spending time with her or not.

[Hoser]

In the military we used to say "Put a flag over her head and do her for your country!"

We also used to go hoggin': guy who porked the ugliest girl won the prize.

We sang songs all the time about grabbing pussy, too, and the women would chime in just as enthusiastically.

This was all before PC became a thing, mind you.

Anyone with me? The German soldiers crossed the Rhine, aww yea.

[PapayaTapper]

(02-15-2017 12:09 AM)kmhour Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

WYB this butterface: https://i.imgur.com/BRLh60u.jpg (nsfw)

get her a decent hairstyle, contact lenses, and a little makeup and she'd instantly jump 2 points.

to a 3

[killjoy]

(02-18-2017 04:31 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 12:09 AM)kmhour Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

WYB this butterface: https://i.imgur.com/BRLh60u.jpg (nsfw)

get her a decent hairstyle, contact lenses, and a little makeup and she'd instantly jump 2 points.

to a 3

PapayaTapper, I'm curious what you would consider an 8 to be. post an example?

[Hoser]

"To a 3", said he of immeasurably vast options...of porn.

[Kid Twist]

Do any of you guys cycle with season or time period regarding libido or boner? Just wondering. I feel like for certain months full staff others not so much...

[PapayaTapper]

(02-18-2017 06:22 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

"To a 3", said he of immeasurably vast options...of porn.

There are guys on this forum that are familiar with the level of chicks I pull. With help that chicks a 3

[BrazilianCocaine]

(02-14-2017 08:22 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

Last night I attempted to bang this really beautiful girl (a genuine 9/10 face) but had trouble maintaining a hard on. Eventually I got frustrated trying to fuck her with my half-limp dick and made her suck me off until I finished. The whole situation freaked me out because here was this beautiful girl (no doubt the prettiest girl I've had) and I was having all kinds of wood trouble. It didn't make any sense. I thought maybe this was early signs of ED kicking in and that scared me even more.

Then today, I called my go-to chick to make sure this wasn't some recurring thing. Now this chick has a 4/10 face but a 9/10 body. Big tits, slim waist, round ass. A real bad ass latina. As soon as she walked through my door I was hard as a rock. No problems at all with her.

Since she left I've been thinking about why she really turned me on but the really beautiful girl didn't. I think it had to do with sex appeal. The really beautiful one lacked the art of seduction or rather the art of the slut (maybe she never really had to learn?). She was more like a dead fish sexually, lying on her back expecting me to do everything. On the other hand, the bad ass latina, while not a looker, could probably make me bust a nut just by talking to me. Some girls just have it. They know how to please a man.

It's a bit strange that I'm more attracted to butterfaces rather than models, but that's where I'm at right now. Maybe ugly girls just try harder?

There ya go bro......

And trust me I been there. I can't fuck model looking chicks they make me bored and can't take dick either.

Give me a 6 in the face and a 10/10 body any day.... My balls will be drained. This is something that comes for most guys with age and wisdom in most cases. (Hopefully)

[BrazilianCocaine]

(02-18-2017 07:14 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Do any of you guys cycle with season or time period regarding libido or boner? Just wondering. I feel like for certain months full staff others not so much...

Late Spring seems to be an insatiable period for me with noticeable lower refractory time.

[killjoy]

PapayaTapper's posts in this thread kind of remind me of the "elbows too pointy" meme

[BrazilianCocaine]

(02-15-2017 12:08 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

Well I'm not posting any actual pics of her, but the beatuiful chick I was talking about looked like the spitting image of Lily Collins (a petite brunette with a very symmetrical face). she would be a runway model for sure if she was taller

I've gone soft for chicks like these because they usually have a terrible attitude and poor energy levels.

[QuitoBandito]

I'm in this camp. I usually go for ~6s TBH. I'm a pretty good looking guy and don't get skittish around really hot girls or anything, but 1) their attitudes are a lot more likely to be annoying, and 2) if I'm going to bring a girl home I want her to actually work in the sack.

Probably not the popular opinion on Roosh, but hey - more for me!

[tremont]

(02-18-2017 10:00 PM)QuitoBandito Wrote:  

I'm in this camp. I usually go for ~6s TBH.

I'm not in that camp. You should work on your game and up your standards bro..

[Leonard D Neubache]

(02-18-2017 08:37 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:22 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

"To a 3", said he of immeasurably vast options...of porn.

There are guys on this forum that are familiar with the level of chicks I pull. With help that chicks a 3

She's not a 3 because that removes any semblance of structure to the scale.

If she's a 3 then what's a 2 or a 1?

It makes no sense to suggest that there are merely two tiers below a young girl with nice skin, a passable figure and perky tits, despite poor hair, teeth and face.

If your personal scale was rated purely on girls you would bang, a 1 being a lizard you'd bang at your most desperate hour, then she might make sense to you personally as a 3. But on the standard everyman scale she is most definitely not a 3.

[doc holliday]

(02-18-2017 11:23 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 08:37 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:22 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

"To a 3", said he of immeasurably vast options...of porn.

There are guys on this forum that are familiar with the level of chicks I pull. With help that chicks a 3

She's not a 3 because that removes any semblance of structure to the scale.

If she's a 3 then what's a 2 or a 1?

It makes no sense to suggest that there are merely two tiers below a young girl with nice skin, a passable figure and perky tits, despite poor hair, teeth and face.

If your personal scale was rated purely on girls you would bang, a 1 being a lizard you'd bang at your most desperate hour, then she might make sense to you personally as a 3. But on the standard everyman scale she is most definitely not a 3.

Her body is better than 95% of American women out there so I wouldn't give her a 3 even in her current state. With some ortho for her teeth, fixing her hair, contacts and some makeup, she could easily be a 7. Funny thing is that for me, the paleness of her skin is what is turning me off the most as I like chicks with a bit more color or tan which is also obviously fixable. She's a project for sure but the building blocks are there.

[soup]

Butterface are for fun, not so much for relationships. There's less anexiety involved . That said, you want to get to a place where all the girls, even the pretty ones, are just for fun.

[PapayaTapper]

(02-18-2017 09:44 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

PapayaTapper's posts in this thread kind of remind me of the "elbows too pointy" meme

Well you started this thread because you have trouble keeping it up for really beautiful women...but that doesn't mean all of us do little poodle

[PapayaTapper]

(02-18-2017 11:23 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

She's not a 3 because that removes any semblance of structure to the scale.

If she's a 3 then what's a 2 or a 1?

It makes no sense to suggest that there are merely two tiers below a young girl with nice skin, a passable figure and perky tits, despite poor hair, teeth and face.

If your personal scale was rated purely on girls you would bang, a 1 being a lizard you'd bang at your most desperate hour, then she might make sense to you[b] personally as a 3.[/b] But on the standard everyman scale she is most definitely not a 3.

Fair enough.

[killjoy]

(02-19-2017 01:37 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:44 PM)killjoy Wrote:  

PapayaTapper's posts in this thread kind of remind me of the "elbows too pointy" meme

Well you started this thread because you have trouble keeping it up for really beautiful women...but that doesn't mean all of us do little poodle

I'm sure you're smashing 10/10's every night, you online Casanova you.

[soup]

Bros it's just anxiety. The anti-drug. The more you feel anxiety about the girl, the more you need to go talk to her.

[questor70]

You know that Twilight Zone episode, eye of the beholder?



It's true that beauty is subjective, but it's usually not THAT subjective. There's a universal lizard-brain scale of SMV. What you'll wind up with is a scatter-plot in which most men will assign the same SMV rating but you'll always have outliers. It's just one of those things baked into the cake of the species.

How men grade women and the type of women men go for are two different things. Grading women is a passive intellectual exercise. Pursuing women is a case of risk/reward. That's why you have terms like "water seeks its own level".

[Slam]

(02-14-2017 09:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

WYB this butterface: https://i.imgur.com/BRLh60u.jpg (nsfw)

Guys the TEETH are the biggest distraction. Get her a full set of porcelain veneers plus contact lenses and she goes up massively. Maybe laser treatment for the rosacea.

Plus she likely has lower self-esteem, thus doesn't have an inflated ego.

She has her youth. She's a farm girl.

With these improvements, LTR material.

[blck]

(02-14-2017 09:55 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

WYB this butterface: https://i.imgur.com/BRLh60u.jpg (nsfw)

Fucking right in the corn field but you would only see this

[theoneandonly]

I am so bad for this.
I have had girls tell me I am a B-sen before (ブス専用) which basically means 'ugly specialist'.

It is pretty easy to get with a horny 6 than an uptight and pretentious 9. For me skin quality is one of the most important aspect, and by far most Japanese have perfect skin = we are good to go.

On the other hand I have had a few girls who used to be 9's but then got older (mid-late thirties), those are my cream. They have lost the 'youth' that gave them bitch shields and unending attention locally, yet they are still hot af/