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I Just Realized I'm Clueless
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I Just Realized I'm Clueless

Hello,

For those who don't know me, I live at college, I'm 22 and a virgin. I was surprised to get several matches on Tinder from really hot looking chicks. However, I just realized something disconcerting....

I am completely clueless with girls. I don't know how to ask them back to my place, I don't know how to temporarily entertain them until we have sex, I don't know where to take them out, I don't know if I SHOULD take them out....its pretty sad, I know. Any Tinder veterans reading this? How do you usually go about things?
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I Just Realized I'm Clueless

Before you embark on this journey lemme be the first to say. Frustration is apart of the process. Getting good with girls takes time. Use the magical genie lamp to answer your questions. Its a nice genie and gives you more than three wishes..

Attraction and passion are non-negotiable
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#3

I Just Realized I'm Clueless

I always invite them over at my place to smoke some pot and have some drinks, after a coffee or some beers or something like that. You could try that.
And read Bang by Roosh, because internal game is like 80% of the thing.
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Honestly I wouldn't start with Tinder unless you're better looking than average. Getting matches with hot girls on Tinder doesn't mean shit----a lot of girls right swipe everyone just for the validation. Tinder game used to be easy---now it's challenging for all but the top tier of guys in looks. Perhaps there's a secret code to getting great success without being good looking, but I haven't found it.

Day game is where it's at for a newbie, IMHO. Or try Okcupid. Spam a bunch of girls copy/paste messages, meet up with all of them that are at least a 5, just for practice, and try your best to make them laugh and flirt with them.

Experience is by far the best way to learn how to get laid. Yes, you can read some guides and books, but no amount of book reading will teach you how to instinctively know, for example, when a woman is ready to be kissed.

That said, Rooshs book "Day Bang" is a good place to start. Also review the "Game" section of this forum----you're not the first 20-something virgin to come here seeking help.
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Quote: (01-31-2017 12:55 AM)Resolute Wrote:  

Day game is where it's at for a newbie, IMHO. Or try Okcupid. Spam a bunch of girls copy/paste messages, meet up with all of them that are at least a 5, just for practice, and try your best to make them laugh and flirt with them.

Experience is by far the best way to learn how to get laid. Yes, you can read some guides and books, but no amount of book reading will teach you how to instinctively know, for example, when a woman is ready to be kissed.

Agreed.
You should start by "failing".
Approach, try to go on dates, escalate and eventually (after many failures) you'll succeed.
Nothing trumps experience. Just experiment.
Remember that the "conversion rate" is low. Don't beat yourself up when you fail.

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#6

I Just Realized I'm Clueless

The secret to tinder is not giving a fuck. But for you OP i understand this is difficult. Being a virgin is a psychological cockblocker.

The only advice I can give is be ready to fail, dont care and push through no matter how embarassing shit is.

How did you suddenly end up in this situation at 22?

'in the face of death.. everything is funny'
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There is no real 'magic formula' to make it all work. You seem to have the first part down (getting matches), but that's the easy part like you alluded to. First off, what exactly are you looking for? A relationship? To lose your virginity? Two very different goals which will require very different methods to succeed.

Not only is Tinder a numbers game, it's a race against time. These females have an ultra short attention span and will always go for the next best thing. They are being bombarded by other males just as horny as you. But, keep in mind there are females on there just looking to smash too. So if that's all your interested in, make your intentions known quickly. Either put it in the profile or in your first few messages. And in that case, you just invite them over to fuck. As a virgin that may sound intimidating to you and difficult to do but it's really not. Just follow your instincts. Begin with kissing/making out, then feel her tits, then finger her, and then insert penis. You can read all the guides in the world but there will come a time where you will just have to do it. And then once you do it, it will be easier to complete the next time and so on.

"Once you've gotten the lay you have won."- Mufasa

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#8

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Thanks for the replies. As much as I would enjoy a relationship, I can't help but feel like it'lll eventually lead to pain and loss for one or both of us, so against my inner desires, I pretty much always avoid girls who seem to genuinely like me [Image: sad.gif] This sucks because I really have no desire to sleep with random girls for an extended period of time, but I'll always feel like a loser until I lose my virginity, so I guess I have to do something. I'm really just worried about how to make girls feel comfortable and entertained if they're not DTF the second they walk in the door. I don't want to make someone feel awkward and have a false rape accusation on my hands. The title of my post isn't entirely accurate, as I've realized this before, but this is the most female attention I've gotten recently, so it's on the forefront of my mind right now.
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#9

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You're way to paranoid man.

Stop worrying and just be. That's the most attractive thing you can do right now.

Girls don't like losers, so stop thinking like one. If a girl likes you, great. You're in America, so I assure you---you're not going to destroy some innocent unicorn with your virgin game. Trust me, these hoes are gonna ho, with or without you. Might as well get your dick wet.
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#10

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You just need to learn through trial and error. Invite her out to a bar, to a college party, host a bbq with friends at school and invite her and some of her friends. You don't need to do everything 1 on 1 yet. Make it social outing.

Then, start working your way to 1 on 1 after you're comfortable with her in a social setting. Bounce her to a different venue or two. Invite her to your place.

Take baby steps to build your confidence and inner game. That'll jump start everything when you start going out with women. Dress well when you meet them. You will automatically have a confidence boost because you will feel and look good.

Improving your inner game will also increase your confidence to try something new or bold. If you get rejected, who cares? If it works, try it again and continue trying new things.

Rejection will be a breeze if you have 2-4 girls you can call to come over.

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Honestly, if you keep feeling sorry for yourself, you are going to be a virgin tomorrow, next month, next year and probably for the next 10 years until you finally wakeup one day, realise your life is fucked and finally bang a hooker just to get it out of the way.

You need to realise one thing. People do not give a shit about you. People only care about what you can do for them. Now you're going to ask 'what about the people that do selfless deeds or give to charity?' Again they do it for themselves. Doing this work or giving makes them feel good. They wouldn't do it if it did not benefit them. Why am i writing this for you? Because there is a small chance that you read what i have written, and take action on it, and this could be the first step for the rest of your life. However small this chance may be, it would give me HUGE satisfaction if you followed through.

Now this is what you need to do. You need to grow some balls and realise it's a cruel world out there. Nobody is going to hold your hand through this. There will be days where you fail again and again and again and look like a loser.. you will look like a creep, people may make fun of you. But as long as you don't give up, there WILL be success. The key is taking action, and not giving up! It's your duty to do this. Otherwise 5 years from now you will wakeup once again and realise nothing has changed in your sad life.

Now what are you going to do?

Are you going to continue moping and spend all your time hiding behind your computer? Or are you going to go outside RIGHT NOW and start talking to strangers today, and the next day and the next day!

If you start a progress thread, i will follow it.

'in the face of death.. everything is funny'
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