[The Beast1]

(12-06-2016 10:12 PM)kartik13 Wrote:  

Other factors that determine whether "game is worth it.

your height, your weight, race/ethnicity, your looks, social skill, and the city you live in.

What the hell do you think game is?

It's about developing social skills to get people to do what you want.

Game = social skills.

[heavy]

(12-06-2016 04:10 PM)InjunJoe95 Wrote:  

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I run the risk of being ostracized or even disowned and cut off financially by practicing game, so I need to make sure the risk is worth the reward.
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Then don't game.

Just go talk to people (girls included) and have fun being 21. Talk to as many chicks as you do dudes. Do fun things. Go camping, mountain climbing, travel. Lift weights, learn martial arts, whatever.

If you meet a girl, fall in love with her. Court her and marry her, have kids. I'm not being facetious. That's a fine life. I lived it for years. I even dip back into it emotionally at times, and that's ok.

You'll probably end up back here (here being state of mind, RVF or talking to a buddy about the same shit), either in love wanting to talk about it, being shit tested by your girlfriend or fiance', wondering why your wife isn't horny anymore, divorced, maybe you're a widower.

Point is, you can go live in that world a while, but life has a way of bringing you back to reality.

[Samseau]

(12-07-2016 04:27 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(12-07-2016 03:56 PM)churros Wrote:  

What's with all these "red pill" game denialists? MGTOW losers

You might wanna give the thread another read. Not sure why 'looks mater' draws out this kind of useless critique. It's a like a dog whistle around here. But yes, my friends, your looks do matter.

I'm going to reiterate -- your looks matter quite a bit. And in fact, taking it a step further, girls will reject you for your looks. It's common sense. Not every girl will be into your looks OR game. Guys like you are intellectually dishonest because the latent purpose of us making these claims is TO seek improvement in these areas.

Can't talk to girls? Learn game.
Look ugly? Dress better.
Skinnyfat? Lift.

Acknowledging this and coming to terms with it helps guys out. Calling them losers does not.

Doesn't mean much to me. Guys will continue to debate this long after I'm gone.

You guys are arguing the difference between passive and active game. Two different things both impact your results in different ways.

http://www.returnofkings.com/999/passive...ctive-game

[churros]

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Guess I always did "passive game" automatically. I'm always slightly nauseated when I see guys changing their life just for the pussy. Look at mystery dressing like he's a rockstar – he probably can't even play guitar.

To me, that's not game. It's life. Pussy is not the center of my universe.

Now getting chicks – that requires it's own skillset. Not to say it can't happen "naturally", but far less efficient.

[kaotic]

(12-08-2016 05:43 PM)churros Wrote:  

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Guess I always did "passive game" automatically. I'm always slightly nauseated when I see guys changing their life just for the pussy. Look at mystery dressing like he's a rockstar – he probably can't even play guitar.

Disagree, guys change their lives based on their needs (for the better).

Changing your life to get pussy always bleeds into other parts of your life, game does that.

Think about it, being an active player, you can apply it to work, your social life, buying things, you step outside the box and view things differently when viewing something in front of you.

People dress all sorts of ways, if he doesn't claim to play music, then he can't possibly be a poser who can't play guitar.

Last I checked, I didn't write a best selling book, get on TV, and have my own series. I'd wear the most ridiculous outfits just to do what he did (I kid for the most part).

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To me, that's not game. It's life. Pussy is not the center of my universe.

Now getting chicks – that requires it's own skillset. Not to say it can't happen "naturally", but far less efficient.

You're right pussy SHOULDN'T be the center of your universe, however, most gents that come in here have a life cycle like this:

Burned by an ex> learn> heal> game> adapt> chase pussy> pussy loses its luster> expand into politics> personal goals in life> travel> possible partner

It usually starts with pussy then after banging for so long you look for other things in life to do, to see, to understand.


Some guys just want to find a good girl.
Some guys just want to be players for a long time.
Some guys want both worlds.
Some guys are over pussy and want to change the world.
Some guys have other personal goals to attain.
Some guys just want to get enlightened.

And yes some guys are naturals, and some guys work their asses of for pussy. (I'm the latter)