"Non-Binary" Academic Refuses To Debate Psychology Professor On Gender Pronouns
10-12-2016, 06:17 AM
Hey guys,
Due to scheduling limitations, certain news events coming up suddenly, and plain bad luck, not everything we ROK writers write is published.
Read this piece in tandem with the following RVF thread: thread-58559.html
Enjoy,
David
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"Non-Binary" Academic Refuses To Debate Psychology Professor On Gender Pronouns, Says "STFU" Instead
If tenured academics are exhibiting such childishness, what can we expect from undergraduates and SJWs generally?
![[Image: teruhjG.jpg]](http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/teruhjG.jpg)
Jordan B Peterson @jordanbpeterson: "UT Prof AW Peet called me a bigot and complained to the university. How about a public debate, Dr. Peet?"
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/stat...4336358400
A physics professor at the University of Toronto, A. W. Peet, has refused to publicly debate psychology professor Dr. Jordan Peterson about gender identity and extra gender pronouns. Instead, Peet has resorted to profanity and ad hominem attacks. Dr. Peterson, also a UoT academic, has strongly ridiculed plans by Canada's Trudeau Government to introduce certain "gender identity discrimination" provisions into the Canadian Human Rights Act. He claims that there is no evidence that biological sex, gender identity, and gender expression vary independently. Worse still, Dr. Peterson argues, the wording of Bill C-16, which would criminalize "discrimination" based on gender identity and gender expression, also risks criminalizing reasonable discussion about transgenderism.
Undergirding Peterson's concerns is the perceived rise of severe limitations on freedom of speech and expression in Canada. True enough, refusing to acknowledge a particular gender (or failing to use "correct" pronouns) may very well fall afoul of the discrimination laws and attract criminal penalties. In fact, this outcome seems almost certain, particularly as organizations such as the Ontario "Human Rights Commission" have already defined "gender identity" as "each person’s internal and individual experience of gender." The Commission further insists that gender identity "is their sense of being a woman, a man, both, neither, or anywhere along the gender spectrum" [my emphasis]. This sort of language is nothing short of relentlessly subjective and implies a potentially unlimited set of gender permutations that must be respected. Bill C-16 would unleash this "reasoning" nationwide and give it legal, even criminal force.
Physics professor A. W. Peet, who identifies as "non-binary transgender" and is one of those people who demand others refer to them as "it/they," has so far responded to Dr. Peterson with the following very unreasoned arguments on Twitter:
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "@n0ght he [Peterson] needs to STFU. Now. Forever."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781653069272678400
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "I literally *don’t care* what “scientific evidence” Peterson thinks he has for his dinosaur views on gender or sexuality. It’s irrelevant."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781608742844526592
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "@KresoCosic you missed the point entirely. The concept being discussed here is that real life experience beats theoretical musings any day"
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781658101044899840
“Real life experience” seems to be a codeword for “feelings.” Because the controversy between Peet and Peterson involves C-16, the former is using “I experience/feel it, therefore I am this gender” arguments to justify criminalizing so-called “discrimination.” Peet has additionally threatened to take Peterson to UoT’s equity department for his “bigotry.”
The Twitter profile of Peet, especially recently, is replete with ad hominem attacks against those even politely questioning the existence of additional genders. Considering that mainstream expressions of so-called gender accord with biological sex, which is distinguishable by easily determined genitalia, hormones and chromosomes, this academic and others have made a poor case in arguing to what extent other genders, aside from outliers often explained by biology (e.g. hermaphroditism), actually exist. Rather than being determined by objective characteristics, these supplementary genders appear more akin to a restaurant buffet in which those identifying as them pick for themselves.
Some examples of the reasoning employed by the SJW A. W. Peet
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "I rebutted Peterson's brazen claim that there's no evidence for nonbinary gender identities by saying "Excuse me, I exist!""
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781935023813435392
binary smasher @kiwinerd: ".@jordanbpeterson I defy your bullshit by existing. Continue your bigotry from your UofT platform & I will take it up with the VP-Equity."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781333117432770561
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "I don’t think there’s any evidence for [nonbinary gender identities]."
Excuse me, asshole, *I exist*.
I am a UofT professor too, BTW."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781331555234877440
This is pretty much the basic point (and it is very basic) being made for prospectively criminalizing behavior such as claiming A. W. Peet’s non-binary gender does not exist, or using “him/he” or “her/she” instead of “it/they.”
As word of Dr. Peterson’s well-articulated views made the rounds throughout the Canadian media landscape, SJWs started frothing at the mouth. In an interview, he admitted that his job may be in jeopardy. One Toronto rally against him has already made headlines and the popularity of Dr. Peterson’s online lectures means the probability of more protests, namely those designed to silence or remove him from his position, is high.
Peterson has accepted Peet’s offer of “tea”
![[Image: MfGTS6f.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/MfGTS6f.jpg)
Academic shitlord extraordinaire.
Showing extraordinary restraint after a series of baseless and mendacious verbal attacks, Jordan Peterson has accepted A. W. Peet’s offer of a discussion over tea. A. W. Peet continues “its” refusal to debate Peterson, most notably in the presence of cameras or an audience. This reticence to debate is alarming, as the Canadian legislation will soon pass, inflicting terrible anti-free speech consequences on Canadians generally. Remember that jurisdictions such as New York City have so far passed draconian regulations on using extra gender pronouns (for five dozen “genders”), regulations which punish offenders with fines of up to $250,000.
Dr. Peterson is one of the few Western academics today willing to not only disregard political correctness but also vehemently challenge it. His recent lectures on explaining and fighting back against the PC brigades should be mandatory viewing for everyone interested in a less putridly leftist ideological society. Moreover, his astute analysis of gender relations, such as in this video, offer a sensational introduction to those yet to take the proverbial red pill.
I warmly encourage you all to take in and disseminate his work.
Read More: New Yorkers Can Now Be Fined $250,000 For Not Using Loony Gender Pronouns Like “Ze” And “Hir”
Due to scheduling limitations, certain news events coming up suddenly, and plain bad luck, not everything we ROK writers write is published.
Read this piece in tandem with the following RVF thread: thread-58559.html
Enjoy,
David
- - -
"Non-Binary" Academic Refuses To Debate Psychology Professor On Gender Pronouns, Says "STFU" Instead
If tenured academics are exhibiting such childishness, what can we expect from undergraduates and SJWs generally?
![[Image: teruhjG.jpg]](http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/teruhjG.jpg)
Jordan B Peterson @jordanbpeterson: "UT Prof AW Peet called me a bigot and complained to the university. How about a public debate, Dr. Peet?"
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/stat...4336358400
A physics professor at the University of Toronto, A. W. Peet, has refused to publicly debate psychology professor Dr. Jordan Peterson about gender identity and extra gender pronouns. Instead, Peet has resorted to profanity and ad hominem attacks. Dr. Peterson, also a UoT academic, has strongly ridiculed plans by Canada's Trudeau Government to introduce certain "gender identity discrimination" provisions into the Canadian Human Rights Act. He claims that there is no evidence that biological sex, gender identity, and gender expression vary independently. Worse still, Dr. Peterson argues, the wording of Bill C-16, which would criminalize "discrimination" based on gender identity and gender expression, also risks criminalizing reasonable discussion about transgenderism.
Undergirding Peterson's concerns is the perceived rise of severe limitations on freedom of speech and expression in Canada. True enough, refusing to acknowledge a particular gender (or failing to use "correct" pronouns) may very well fall afoul of the discrimination laws and attract criminal penalties. In fact, this outcome seems almost certain, particularly as organizations such as the Ontario "Human Rights Commission" have already defined "gender identity" as "each person’s internal and individual experience of gender." The Commission further insists that gender identity "is their sense of being a woman, a man, both, neither, or anywhere along the gender spectrum" [my emphasis]. This sort of language is nothing short of relentlessly subjective and implies a potentially unlimited set of gender permutations that must be respected. Bill C-16 would unleash this "reasoning" nationwide and give it legal, even criminal force.
Physics professor A. W. Peet, who identifies as "non-binary transgender" and is one of those people who demand others refer to them as "it/they," has so far responded to Dr. Peterson with the following very unreasoned arguments on Twitter:
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "@n0ght he [Peterson] needs to STFU. Now. Forever."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781653069272678400
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "I literally *don’t care* what “scientific evidence” Peterson thinks he has for his dinosaur views on gender or sexuality. It’s irrelevant."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781608742844526592
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "@KresoCosic you missed the point entirely. The concept being discussed here is that real life experience beats theoretical musings any day"
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781658101044899840
“Real life experience” seems to be a codeword for “feelings.” Because the controversy between Peet and Peterson involves C-16, the former is using “I experience/feel it, therefore I am this gender” arguments to justify criminalizing so-called “discrimination.” Peet has additionally threatened to take Peterson to UoT’s equity department for his “bigotry.”
The Twitter profile of Peet, especially recently, is replete with ad hominem attacks against those even politely questioning the existence of additional genders. Considering that mainstream expressions of so-called gender accord with biological sex, which is distinguishable by easily determined genitalia, hormones and chromosomes, this academic and others have made a poor case in arguing to what extent other genders, aside from outliers often explained by biology (e.g. hermaphroditism), actually exist. Rather than being determined by objective characteristics, these supplementary genders appear more akin to a restaurant buffet in which those identifying as them pick for themselves.
Some examples of the reasoning employed by the SJW A. W. Peet
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "I rebutted Peterson's brazen claim that there's no evidence for nonbinary gender identities by saying "Excuse me, I exist!""
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781935023813435392
binary smasher @kiwinerd: ".@jordanbpeterson I defy your bullshit by existing. Continue your bigotry from your UofT platform & I will take it up with the VP-Equity."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781333117432770561
binary smasher @kiwinerd: "I don’t think there’s any evidence for [nonbinary gender identities]."
Excuse me, asshole, *I exist*.
I am a UofT professor too, BTW."
https://twitter.com/kiwinerd/status/781331555234877440
This is pretty much the basic point (and it is very basic) being made for prospectively criminalizing behavior such as claiming A. W. Peet’s non-binary gender does not exist, or using “him/he” or “her/she” instead of “it/they.”
As word of Dr. Peterson’s well-articulated views made the rounds throughout the Canadian media landscape, SJWs started frothing at the mouth. In an interview, he admitted that his job may be in jeopardy. One Toronto rally against him has already made headlines and the popularity of Dr. Peterson’s online lectures means the probability of more protests, namely those designed to silence or remove him from his position, is high.
Peterson has accepted Peet’s offer of “tea”
![[Image: MfGTS6f.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/MfGTS6f.jpg)
Academic shitlord extraordinaire.
Showing extraordinary restraint after a series of baseless and mendacious verbal attacks, Jordan Peterson has accepted A. W. Peet’s offer of a discussion over tea. A. W. Peet continues “its” refusal to debate Peterson, most notably in the presence of cameras or an audience. This reticence to debate is alarming, as the Canadian legislation will soon pass, inflicting terrible anti-free speech consequences on Canadians generally. Remember that jurisdictions such as New York City have so far passed draconian regulations on using extra gender pronouns (for five dozen “genders”), regulations which punish offenders with fines of up to $250,000.
Dr. Peterson is one of the few Western academics today willing to not only disregard political correctness but also vehemently challenge it. His recent lectures on explaining and fighting back against the PC brigades should be mandatory viewing for everyone interested in a less putridly leftist ideological society. Moreover, his astute analysis of gender relations, such as in this video, offer a sensational introduction to those yet to take the proverbial red pill.
I warmly encourage you all to take in and disseminate his work.
Read More: New Yorkers Can Now Be Fined $250,000 For Not Using Loony Gender Pronouns Like “Ze” And “Hir”
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