[destiny]

This is a short video clip I filmed of Friend's club. I tried to switch the video to landscape halfway through but it didn't scale properly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9icKffAR...e=youtu.be

[kirdiesel]

(10-22-2016 07:31 AM)destiny Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 05:38 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Maybe that guy knew her from earlier in the night or from somewhere else. That seems mighty fast to get a make out from a girl in that short span of time. Barely any time for convo and then bam a makeout? Possible but highly unlikely.

As for the black guy comment: Most black guys tend to prefer curvy women and some have this "pussy is pussy" mentality which is why you have been seeing this type of behavior. I personally don't get down like that. So it's not all of us!

What is with that place with tight face control? If it's tight then it usually means there's tons of hot girls in there.

It seemed you opened a lot of girls and people tonight. I'm still on the side of you going out alone. That wingman didn't help you out once again at all.

Once again it is normal for people to ask where you are from. I've been in Germany for years and people still ask be that question. Just make a joke out of it and use it to your advantage.

I think I saw them speaking a couple of times before I first spoke to her. They were already acquainted with each other. In fact, earlier in the night, I saw her getting hit on several times by different dudes already. I suppose that should have hinted to me to move fast with her.

This is the instagram page of Coyote Fly. You can have a quick look to determine whether or not the quality is there. https://www.instagram.com/coyotefly/. Several reviews mention that they only let in Latvians unless you are some serious connections. I think in general though, you won't be disappointed with the quality at any clubs here. At least a 1/4 of the chicks I see are good enough to be run way models. Their tall and have beautiful faces. This is a pic of that secret Latvian club I mentioned that I visited that night with the black guy from London. As you can see there's no signs there. Quality was very high there, and practically no foreigners but chicks didn't seem receptive to us. I got zero eye contact from chicks.

I saw this sign near the entrance but I'm sure if this is the name of the place.

Note: it's since been removed.

Ya, it seems he was more into drinking alcohol then anything. I'm just going to let him "tag along" so I have some moral support when I'm in the trenches. I'm debating on whether or not to let him come with me to the same pub. I did surprisingly well by myself yesterday and it seems being alone actually makes people approach you lol.

I'm going to have to come up with some sort of witty answer then when people ask.

See I knew exactly from what you told me that he had previous contact with her. My friend and I coined that term "pregaming".

Its when a guy talks to a girl earlier in the night, builds rapport, ejects because he doesnt want to seem overly interested and comes back and steals her off another guy later when the evening is hot.

I have done the same move myself. You do this when you meet a girl very early in the night at a location and you guys hit it off and you don't want to latch on right away. So you leave and come back and scoop her. The other guy that you take her from doesn't know what hit him. In this case... that was you.

I wouldnt sweat it.

Just as I suspected that nightclub is high end and has top talent. I'm not sure you'll survive in there because you need to be a nightclub veteran to perform well in those types of places. If you want to try to get in there youll probably need a suit and go early before the door rush.

Last night: While solid eye contact with a girl before you approach is a beautiful thing you shouldn't rely on it to approach AT ALL. If you like what you see just go over there and start gaming regardless if you had eye contact or not.

Ive pulled countless girls who said they hadn't seen me all night before I approached them.. even though i was standing there in front of them or in their proximity.

[destiny]

(10-22-2016 10:27 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 07:31 AM)destiny Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 05:38 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Maybe that guy knew her from earlier in the night or from somewhere else. That seems mighty fast to get a make out from a girl in that short span of time. Barely any time for convo and then bam a makeout? Possible but highly unlikely.

As for the black guy comment: Most black guys tend to prefer curvy women and some have this "pussy is pussy" mentality which is why you have been seeing this type of behavior. I personally don't get down like that. So it's not all of us!

What is with that place with tight face control? If it's tight then it usually means there's tons of hot girls in there.

It seemed you opened a lot of girls and people tonight. I'm still on the side of you going out alone. That wingman didn't help you out once again at all.

Once again it is normal for people to ask where you are from. I've been in Germany for years and people still ask be that question. Just make a joke out of it and use it to your advantage.

I think I saw them speaking a couple of times before I first spoke to her. They were already acquainted with each other. In fact, earlier in the night, I saw her getting hit on several times by different dudes already. I suppose that should have hinted to me to move fast with her.

This is the instagram page of Coyote Fly. You can have a quick look to determine whether or not the quality is there. https://www.instagram.com/coyotefly/. Several reviews mention that they only let in Latvians unless you are some serious connections. I think in general though, you won't be disappointed with the quality at any clubs here. At least a 1/4 of the chicks I see are good enough to be run way models. Their tall and have beautiful faces. This is a pic of that secret Latvian club I mentioned that I visited that night with the black guy from London. As you can see there's no signs there. Quality was very high there, and practically no foreigners but chicks didn't seem receptive to us. I got zero eye contact from chicks.

I saw this sign near the entrance but I'm sure if this is the name of the place.

Note: it's since been removed.

Ya, it seems he was more into drinking alcohol then anything. I'm just going to let him "tag along" so I have some moral support when I'm in the trenches. I'm debating on whether or not to let him come with me to the same pub. I did surprisingly well by myself yesterday and it seems being alone actually makes people approach you lol.

I'm going to have to come up with some sort of witty answer then when people ask.

See I knew exactly from what you told me that he had previous contact with her. My friend and I coined that term "pregaming".

Its when a guy talks to a girl earlier in the night, builds rapport, ejects because he doesnt want to seem overly interested and comes back and steals her off another guy later when the evening is hot.

I have done the same move myself. You do this when you meet a girl very early in the night at a location and you guys hit it off and you don't want to latch on right away. So you leave and come back and scoop her. The other guy that you take her from doesn't know what hit him. In this case... that was you.

I wouldnt sweat it.

Just as I suspected that nightclub is high end and has top talent. I'm not sure you'll survive in there because you need to be a nightclub veteran to perform well in those types of places. If you want to try to get in there youll probably need a suit and go early before the door rush.

Last night: While solid eye contact with a girl before you approach is a beautiful thing you shouldn't rely on it to approach AT ALL. If you like what you see just go over there and start gaming regardless if you had eye contact or not.

Ive pulled countless girls who said they hadn't seen me all night before I approached them.. even though i was standing there in front of them or in their proximity.

Oh I see, I was planning on going to go fetch her later in the evening as well when I wanted her number but I guess he beat me too the punch and also I got distracted by several other guys. Is there a way to counter this? Say if I show up later at a venue and she already spoke to several guys and now I'm already engaging her? Is it simply a matter of moving fast with her getting the number, make out, try a venue change etc, before the other thirsty hordes try to sink their teeth into her?

Also how do I deal with the legions of thirsty dudes approaching girls I'm already engaged in? This has happened twice now. First with the Italians and second last night.

[kirdiesel]

As far as I know there is no direct counter for this.

If a guy "pregames" a girl and he comes back to get her and he has more rapport she is going to go with who shes interested in the most.

I don't find this happens to me often though. This is one of the positive points of going to venues early so you can get a jump on the other guys.

[destiny]

Day 15:

I was still a little messed up from partying until 6am in the morning. My sleep pattern is way off the hooks right now. I woke up around 4:30pm and didn't make it out until around 11pm. I wanted to go back to Ala Folkklub to predrink and become more social first before hitting a club and who knows, maybe replicate the interest levels I got from girls the night before. The Russian cs guy from yesterday was already there waiting for me when I had arrived. I enter the venue and quickly scan the place, Fuck! I thought. Its full of old people today, wtf happened? Most of the people were much older and there weren't nearly enough chicks to approach as the day before. I signal for the Russian to follow my lead, as I walk around trying to look for a good place to position myself to talk to girls. All of the spots by the bar are taken and there's loads of dudes standing around by the bar area. I do another quick scan of the place but don't see any girls by themselves. Suddenly I see a free spot by the small bar table out in front and quickly make my way there. The Russian follows my lead but isn't very comfortable there because of the low ceiling. Suddenly a notice a slightly older looking blonde walk up to the counter beside the Russian and try to order a drink. My mind kind of pauses for a second, not sure how to open her since he's in the way blocking me. I decide to let her go. A few minutes past and she still hasn't gotten any service so I yell out to her.

Me: Your going to need to do something crazy to catch his attention.
CS Russian: looks at me kind of surprised that I opened her
Her: laughs
Me: Maybe throw something at him
Her: laughs, no no
I grab a glass full of napkins and stick it in front of her and gesture for her to throw it at him
Her: laughs
The waiter finally sees her and comes over to take her order. Just then another dude comes over to her from her group of friends and they start chatting and she soon leaves the bar area with her friends.

I return back to talking to the Russian. I tell him we need to approach and talk to some girls and he just nods.
After several minutes waiting there but not getting anymore girls come up to the counter we decide to move to the more busier bar further down the restaurant. The area was packed full of people and we only managed to find a little area by the wall which I stood by the previous night. We make our way there and I notice a bitchy looking hot brunette is standing there beside me. I quickly start developing approach anxiety and questioning on whether or not to approach her. Just then her blonde friend walks over with two drinks and stands right beside me. We kind of make eye contact and notice each other standing there. I kind of hesitate and return back to talking to the Russian for 1-2 minutes while battled the approach anxiety in my psyche. Finally, I win and open the chick.

me: What is that?
her: gives me a confused look, "Rum and Whiskey."
me: my favourite drink
emotionless face. I eject from the set and return back to talking to my wing for a few minutes. Our drinks are finished at this time, and I'm not really feeling the place tonight and neither is he so he tells me let's go somewhere else. I think for a second trying to decide if its the right tiime to leave now or wait a little longer because more people are coming in. He's like do you want me to order the second round for us or not. I'm like "Wait, give me 1 minute to decide." Then we both turn and see a group of young hot chicks come in by the dozens holding. I turn and look at him and nodd. He orders the drinks and then we set off to try and find these newly arrived girls but noticed they all got 1 giant table right in the center which made approaching very difficult and awkward. I decide nah and then tell him let's go back to the other spot. We both make our way back over there and find a crammed spot by the bar. There's only 1 seat and he doesn't take it so I grab it after telling him. We talk so more and I complain about the lack of women here today. He doesn't seem to care and is really apathetic about it, telling me he's hungry and wants food. As we are talking, I continue to look around for targets but then I hear some girls speaking behind me in a british accent. I turn and look at him "Whose speaking in a british accent?" I ask. He shruggs. Then I notice two blonde chicks sitting by the sofa with their backs turned away from us. I look at him and tell him to approach them but he brushes it off and I'm like fuck this. I'm tired and hungry and just want to lean back and sit down somewhere so I approach them in mid sentence and ask if someone is sitting on the other end of the sofa.

They are like nah, and grab their coats and let me and the Russian move inside to sit down. Finally, it felt nice to be able to lean back on something soft. We start talking and then one of the British chicks interject into our conversation. I have a quick look at her but she ain't doing it for me. Maybe a 6 or 6.5 but there was something about the way she spoke or how she carried herself that put me off. I mean she was in no way impolite or anything, quite the contrary, but I guess after being around all of these Eastern European women, British chicks just don't cut it anymore for me, especially one's that aren't that attractive. She seemed to have taken an interest in the Russian, asking him a lot of questions but he doesn't jump on it. She then proceeds to ask me several questions as well (the usual). When she finally got to asking me why I was here in Riga, I told here I was here to see my "friend", and pointed to the Russian in fact. He was kind of caught off guard by this and I probably should have told him that I was going to lie and say he was the friend I came here to see. She started asking me how I knew him but I didn't plan an answer for this so I just said the first thing that came to my head, "umm... we met online." There was a awkward pause and the Russian looked at me lol and I knew I just made it sound weird lol and then I tried to repair the damage and said "ya, we met on a forum, I was asking about sports and soccer and that's how we met." It must have made it seem like I was a fag or something lol. Next time I'm going to come up with a good reason as to how we met. I probably should have just said couchsurfing. Anyways we soon change topics and start talking about something else as I shift the focus back to her. Just then her friend comes back with their drinks and she introduces us. They kind of start talking between them as I go back to talking to the Russian. I apologize for not informing him I was going to lie about him being my friend instead of the chick who I really did come here to see. We finish our beers and then I say goodbye to the two British chicks and head out to the club.

The Russian wanted to go back to the same club as yesterday, but I wanted to go to Rock cafe first just to scoop it out since it was near us. It was pouring outside by this time as we quickly made our way there. When we got in, the Russian was complaining about the place saying he doesn't like the music they played there and wanted to leave. I told him I just want to check it out quickly to see how's the crowd before we leave but then the bouncer wouldn't let us go upstairs until we checked in our clothes. The lineup downstairs to check in was huge so he just told me to give him my jacket while I went up alone to check it out. As expected, the dance floor was jam packed but I saw several chicks immediately look at me when I went in there. My fashion style was more hipstery today which was more appropriate for this crowd. The bar area also had a tonne of people too that I could open and I liked the song they were playing. Needless to say, I wanted to stay. I made my way downstairs but the Russian didn't want to stay here. I relented and went back with him to Kalku Varti.

The club was a little busier today with slightly better ratios but I immediately noticed there were a lot of couples there which pissed me off. Man, out of all of the places you can take your girlfriend out, why the fuck would you bring her to a nightclub where legions of thirsty dudes will be hitting on her non-stop? I scanned the bar area first but saw zero targets. Everyone was on the dance floor so I made my way there. Again several couples dancing together or the women dancing by herself only for her man to scoop in a few minutes later and have them making out. I also saw 2-3 groups of girls dancing in a circle but didn't get much eye contact. I was contemplating how to approach them but chickened out. My wing kept himself busy by buying more booze and standing idle in the background. About 30-40 minutes passed and I was still in my head, but then two older blonde chicks were dancing near me with another older dude hovering around them. I make eye contact with one of them as she makes some strange dance moves. I mimic here and we both smile. She's a bit older then me and not that attractive so I'm like fuck it. Right around this time as well, the bouncer comes in and kicks everyone off the dance floor so that some dancers can perform a dance performance. This shit happened a few times and pissed me off because I was just getting into the right vibe and getting ready to approach chicks before the music gets cut off and everyone brushed aside. later during the final performance, I got the idea that I should just approach a chick while these dancers with performing since everyone was standing idle watching them, but didn't see any around me. After about an hour, I had had enough and wanted to leave. I told the Russian I wanted to bounce but he kept on begging me to stay for a bit longer and finally says "ok, I'll start approach some girls if you'll stay" or some shit. It's like dude, you should have done that earlier, but not for my benefit but yours. This guy did absolutely nothing all night except order drinks and stand in the corner sipping his alcohol. I decide to be a teamplayer and just hang back for a another 10 minutes or so but then couldn't take it anymore and bolt out of there.

I tell him I want to go shot cafe again and see how it's like on a busy night. As we make our way to the place, I see several blonde chicks walking out of shot cafe and I open one of them.

me: is this place any good?
her: ya, its very good and also make sure you try the apple sauce shot or something
me: thanks

We head inside, its fucking a sausage fest and tiny. I thought there might have been another room or something but no. We immediately turn around and leave. So now me and the Russian are soaking wet and debating one where to go next. It's around 2:30am and I'm fucking tired and just want to go home and call it quits but the Russian is like let's go to this more fancy club called something. I forgot what he said. I didn't really feel like it but he kept on nagging me, saying let's just take a taxi. I didn't want to spend anymore money but then saw how wet I was getting so agreed. After a ten minute cab ride, we finally arrive at the club but its fucking closed! Who the fuck closes a club on a saturday night?
Alright that was it, I told him to stop the taxi and we both get in and go home.

What a fucking nightmare today turned out to be. Not a very productive night. Very few targets at the one pub I always go to, the club from yesterday was shit, and the only club I wanted to stay at, I left. Now I am really seriously considering just doing night game solo. I could have just stayed at rock cafe and approached several more targets. I don't mind if the Russian tags along but when he makes me switch venues to other bullshit venues, it ruins my opportunities at game. I'm going to have to seriously think about doing this alone. I don't mind the company but now I feel like its hurting my chances too. I might just go out with him one more time to these super posh clubs like coyote fly (the russian kept on pestering me to go there with him) and see how it is but I don't think I'll be going out with him clubbing anymore if he ain't going to do shit and then try to prevent me from enjoying myself at other venues like rock cafe. On a more positive note, I am starting to get some matches now on tinder. Only 3 so far and only 1 replied but she disappeared after 3 messages. Also I'm starting to get some more replies on language exchange websites and I got a reply back from one smoking hot chick from couchsurfing so hopefully I'll be able to get out at least one of these chicks.


Here's two video clips of Kalku Varti and the chicks performing their dance routines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3FnmEmfDmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLWE8XB...e=youtu.be

[kirdiesel]

Hate to say I told you so.

Just makeup a bs story as to why you are at the place alone and continue solo.

No wing is better than a bad wing. If it's one thing I hope you take from this trip it's that.

That place you keep going also doesnt seem too conducive to meeting girls. Too many tables or places for women to hide and isolate themselves. There's gotta be a better location.

[destiny]

(10-23-2016 06:22 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Hate to say I told you so.

Just makeup a bs story as to why you are at the place alone and continue solo.

No wing is better than a bad wing. If it's one thing I hope you take from this trip it's that.

That place you keep going also doesnt seem too conducive to meeting girls. Too many tables or places for women to hide and isolate themselves. There's gotta be a better location.

Ya your right. I can't believe how much truth there is to what all you guys are saying. It's like you can predict the future or something lol.

Trust me, I scouted hard for several different venues but this is the only decent place all week. The music isn't too loud there so you can still keep a conversation and there is a mini dance area where I suppose you can take a chick to escalate physically on, and there is always at least some volume there even during the week. Vinny whose been to Riga also recommended that I game there during the week because most places are dead. I probably wouldn't take a chick there though as a bounce location. Way too many competition and thirsty dudes there who approach chicks that you are with, even if your sitting by a table or something (I've done this too to other guys).

I did found another bar that I think would be a good bounce location to take a chick to and then extract her to my apartment. It's called Kwakinn. This is the layout of the place, I think http://kwakinn.ru/modules/mod_3dtour/kwakinn_tour.swf

I haven't been inside here yet so I think I might stop by just to scoop it out, but I think I should try to get one of those corner tables and then try to sit beside her instead of opposite of her, although I don't know what I would say if she asks me why I ain't sitting across from her though. From then I could get in close to her personal space, use eye contact, and kino her and then once I think she's ready ask her to come back to my apartment to "watch a movie" or something, call a cab and then take her home.

[destiny]

Day 16:

Man I can't believe its already been two weeks. It just went by so fast and I feel like I barely did anything even though I've been going out practically every night and spamming chicks online via tinder, cs, badoo, language exchange sites, etc. It feels a little strange but I actually want to extend my stay here for another two weeks. I feel this place could really help me hone and improve my skills by a lot. Its this uncomfortable and unfamiliarity feeling which has really forced me to go out alone and approach targets and also up my game which wasn't much to even begin with.

Today I decided to ditch the Russian from yesterday and went out solo. It still feels kind of weird going out alone but I'm slowly getting used to it. I didn't arrive in the old town until 10:30pm. This was a mistake as the old town was practically deserted. A saw a few Italians and brits on the streets but that was it, no chicks, no latvians, nothing. I made my way to my usual pub but already saw that the number of guests was halved. The first bar table had like a couple and that was it so I made my way over to the second large bar table. Again, not much people, like 2 mixed sets. I saw one large chick sitting by herself near the same spot I was on Friday so I slowly made my way over. I saw an empty and attempted to sit down but she's like "its taken already." so I just grab the next seat over. There's two old dudes sitting beside me and I immediately open the one right beside me. We talk for a little bit and I found out he's from Berlin. I quickly eject from the conversation and order my beer as I scan the place.

Its fucking filled with middle age and up people. Why the hell did all of the young people go? Fuck! I return back to talking a little bit with the German but then eject once again. The fat chick on my left now has her guy friend come back and they keep to themselves. There's no fucking targets to approach. I just sit there sipping on my beer and bored out of my mind. About half an hour later, I see two blonde chicks walk up to the bar area and seat themselves. I contemplate whether or not I should approach them but then said fuck it, too difficult to deal with both chicks at the same time. I decide to leave my spot and walk around the pub to go to the bathroom but there's no fucking targets. Wait a second, my eyes dart to right as I walk past a chick on her phone by the smaller bar. I tell myself I'm going to approach her when I come back from the washroom but when I returned she was gone. I notice there's also two chicks seating by the sofa talking amongst themselves, one of them makes eye contact with me but I chicken out of approaching the two chicks seated by the couch and return back to my seat. Another 15 minutes go by and then the German man leaves with his friend but still nothing by the bar area. I grab my beer and tell myself I'm going to leave once I'm done this and hit up Rock cafe. I do one more final walk around the pub and station myself by the small bar table. I see another two blonde chicks by the other sofa but don't really look at their faces. I turn around and just observe for a bit but then I hear a familiar accent again that causes me to turn around.

Shit! It's the same two british chicks that I opened from yesterday. They are came back and just sitting by the sofa drinking their wine. I contemplated reopening them again but I wasn't interested in neither one so I finished my beer and left. I headed over to rock cafe and the place was also nearly empty. I was greeted by a huge sausagefest once I went through the front doors. I make my way up stairs to the dance floor and bar area. The bar area is full of dudes with no chick in sight, while the dance floor has two chicks dancing with some dude. I turn around and eject.

What a bullshit night! I can't believe I didn't talk to a single chick today and the only set I opened was some old dude from Germany.

Mistakes made: I should have got to the old town early probably around 8-8:30pm by the latest. In the future, I think I'm just going to go to the old town around 4-5ish try to daygame and then hit the pub for 1-2 hours to predrink and then go to rock cafe and leave after 10:30pm and go home. Sunday's are fucking horrible here.

[destiny]

Day 17:

I decided to head out a little early today to do some daygame. It was raining all day today which meant a lot less targets strolling along in the old town. I decided to do some "pregramming" as suggested. I headed straight for the mall first and opened up some guy on the 3rd floor, asking him where the washroom was. Then I went to some electronics store and opened a female employee "excuse me, do you selling noise cancelling earphones for concerts?" she gave me like a one word reply and then tossed me over to her coworker who also looked confused and what I wanted and eventually handed me over to another dude who said no. After this, I quickly lost the momentum and ended up walking around the mall for thirty minutes unable to open a single person so I ditched the mall and walked around the old town. I couldn't find any single targets and was getting desperate to just open some pairs or groups in a worse case scenario.

After walking around for 30 minutes and seeing no single targets, I finally saw one chick walking quickly by herself with a musical instrument in her back. I didn't get a chance to see her face, nonetheless I opened her since the targets were so sparse. She was a 6 at best.

me: excuse me, can you tell me where the university is?
her: umm...which one?
me: there's more than one?
her: ya, there is like 3
me: umm... I don't know, the one that has a barbershop. I need to get a haircut
her: you can try the ones around old town
me: ya, I don't really like those

blah blah blah. She didn't really ask me many questions despite me asking her about her musical instructment. After about 2 minutes, she kind of starts turning her back and slowly walking away. I just thank her and leave.

I did another round around the old town area but saw nothing, plus my clothes were getting soaked so I headed for the mall again. One the first floor I spotted a pretty brunette standing idle in the middle and wandered over to her and whipped out my map.

me: excuse me, do you know where I can find the university here?
her: umm... there are many here
me: I want to go to the one where they have a hair saloon because I don't really like the really fancy ones with the beard trimming and drinks blah blah blah...
I forgot what she said.
me: so are you from here?
yes: Yes, I'm Russian though
blah blah blah
me: do you study at the university?
her: yes, I study business
blah blah blah
she asks me where I'm from, blah blah blah. A bit more interest but then says she has to go now because she has to go to a birthday party for her friend. She definitely showed more interest then the last chick and asked some questions back. I contemplated asking for the number when she said that but felt we only spoke for a few minutes that it was too early. I needed another 5-10 minutes to warm her up. It seems all the chicks around here are always in a fucking hurry to get somewhere. Often times I would see a chick just breeze quickly past me as if hurrying off to a life and death situation.


I walk around the mall again, and see another chick with long brown hair and wanted to approach but she looked kind of similar to the last chick and I wasn't sure if it was her or not so I didn't approach. I saw another chick who I wanted to approach but right before I had a chance to approach her, she went inside a shop. I saw the same security guard on two of the mall floors which made my approach anxiety even worse. After doing another 2 more rounds around the whole mall, I abandoned ship.

I decided to check out kwakinn for logistical purposes as a bounce location. Beer was overpriced relative to the other places and the selection was shit. While I was sitting down feeling all depressed and shit for my lack of approaches and results, one of my best friends from Canada was messaging me on facebook saying how I fucked up that night with that tall brunette Latvian chick (gee man, thanks for the moral support). He goes on telling me how I need to be more aggressive and buy her a drink and then take her to the dance floor and make out with her. This is a guy who's scared to even approach a girl at all during the day or night and only dates fatties exclusively because he's too chicken shit to try anything harder. He goes on telling me how I need to be more aggressive and that I should have put my arm around her so other guys wouldn't take her from me and that I need to spend money to get girls. "act confident man, but don't be a douche." he says. It's so easy to just say that but if we were to switch shoes he wouldn't have even opened his mouth.

He goes on a ramble about how "people get better at talking to others not through doing random approaches on streets... but by having balanced lives, close friends, a career where they interact with others, etc... just by going through their life they're forced to interact with others, develop friendships and bonds, etc..." He also tells me what I'm doing is very unnatural and that dudes don't go to clubs to hone their skills but to have fun. He then goes on about how I'm probably ignoring women who clearly want me (I think he means the fatties or ugly chicks he and all of my friends wanted me to go after because they are in my league according to them) and trying to get women who aren't interested in me.

He then basically tells me in an indirect way what I'm doing is a waste of my time and that I should just go back home and be like the rest of them there. That shit really pissed me off and made me feel even worse then before. He's basically shitting all over my efforts and all the work I've done up this point (mind you before in the past I was afraid to even ask for a number or even touch a women). Now I remember why I don't like hanging out with negative people like this who instead of supporting you and encouraging you decide to bring you back down to their level.

After that bullshit conversation, I decided to walk to Ala Folkklub. It was fucking pouring outside as I made my way over in the darkness amid the rain. While walking, I stumbled upon a restaurant that had a live performance of the song "stand by me" sung by a country guy. You could hear the performer singing outside because of the speakers outside. That was fucking brutal as I stood outside the restaurant there, looking through the glass as the rain came down on me while listening to this dude sing the song. I questioned whether or not what I was doing was right or if I was just deluding myself about this dream of one day finally fixing this part of my life and finally being with a girl that I'm actually attracted too that likes me too.


When the song ended I finally made my way over to Ala Folkklub, drenched in rain. It had the busiest crowd out of all the places on a monday evening but there was hardly any young girls there and definitely none alone. I picked to go sit in the middle of the bar table and ordered my drinks and food. There was no girls on that table so I sat between two guys. I was still feeling a bit down and wasn't getting any eye contact from the guys so I didn't talk to any of them, but then I remembered coverdoc's advice about just being social with everyone so when my food arrived I opened the dude on my left who ordered the same thing. We chatted for a bit and I found out he's from Romania but lives in Warsaw, perfect!

As we are chatting I notice two girls come in with a guy several seats down from us. The attractive chick was talking to the dude while the uglier one was just kind of talking and leaning back. I contemplated whether or not to approach her but she wasn't even a 6. As I continue talking with the Romania, I turn my head around to scan the place, he notices me doing this because we were talking about chicks and he's like "nothing." I do this a few times but don't see any targets but then later on in the evening, I notice some chick holding prolonged eye contact on me. I give her a quick glance but immediately I'm turned off. She looks like Molly Shannon from SNL lol. All throughout our chat, I notice she is continuing to look at me but I couldn't do it. I wasn't in the mood to try and take Molly Shannon home. Its like an instant erection killer.

Me and the Romanian continue our discussion about women and Warsaw. He says Polish women are more prettier then here (I disagree). The Romanian then invites me to come party with him and his friend when I arrive in Warsaw in two weeks time and we exchange contact info. We start talking about potentially checking out another venue. He asks one of the waitresses and she recommends some restaurant called moonshine. That place is dead and full of old people I tell him based on google's search and my own experience. He takes off soon after as do I. I decide to just check out rock cafe before calling it a night. As expected, it was devoid of people on the second floor where the dance floor and bar was. I ask the coat checking guy where's a busy good place to go to tonight and he's like check out Ala Folkklub. I tell him I just came from there and he laughs. I decide to head home.

I guess the day wasn't a complete lost, at least now I got a local guy who can show me the nightlife in Warsaw. I hope Warsaw's going to be a hell of a lot better then Riga, because I'm getting nowhere here.

[destiny]

Day 18:

I headed a little bit earlier today to daygame. There' supposingly another bigger mall near the old town so I was planning on going there to daygame but I didn't know where it was exactly except for the fact that it was near the Radison hotel so I approached a chick near one of the bus stops.

me: hey can you tell me how I can get to the galleria riga mall?
her: turns and looks at me. "Yes, blah blah blah. Do you have gps.
me: it's working on my phone
her: oh, whips out her phone but then her bus arrives and she continues talking to me as she quickly runs up to the bus

I walk a bit further and see another chick walking really fast with her earphones on. She has a cold demeanor as I open her.

me: hey excuse, can you tell me how I can get to the galleria mall?
her: pulls out her earphones and has a bitchy face on. Can you said what you said again?
me: can you tell me how I can get to the galleria mall?
her: which one? there is two
me: ohh, galleria riga.
her: pauses and looks confused. Umm... I'm not from around here. I think if you go blah blah blah
me: blah blah
her: continues talking and slowly starts to walk away

I just thank her and eject from the set. I finally locate the mall and are immediately unimpressed. It's smaller then the other mall, there's less people around, and the layout is fucked up. I see a few girls breeze right by me and didn't get a chance to open but my aa was starting to kick in now. After spending like 5 minutes there I bail and head back to the old town. I walk around for a bit, unable to locate any single targets but then spot a chick in the distance walking at a somewhat moderate pace. I pretend to look around waiting for her to walk near me.

me: excuse me, do you know of any good teashops around here?
her: teashop or coffeeshop?
me: teashop
her: start smiling
her: yes, there is that one there (points to a coffeeshop in front of us)
me: that's a coffeshop
her: yes, but they also have tea
me: I'm looking for real tea, not that teabag stuff
her: laughs
her: there is also that coffee shop there that also has tea
me: is it the real stuff or teabags again?
her: laughs
me: you know you have a very interesting accent, it doesn't sound like the other Latvian accents
her: laughs
me: Did you go study somewhere outside of Latvia?
her: laughs, "no, I just study English as a hobbie."
blah blah blah.. for several minutes

I try to suggest to her that we hang out sometime and she could show me around but she is like I'm busy with work and I'm like not today, maybe during the week or something. She is like I'm working everyday and then on Friday I'm going to Estonia. I touched her forearm twice and made her laugh out loud a few times already and she seemed to dig the conversation but she wouldn't agree with me on hanging out. At one point she is like "we've been talking for 10 minutes now." Seeing as she refused my offer, I decided to eject the set and slowly turned my body and backstepped but she was just standing there and smiling. That was a very strange. I get the sense she still wanted to talk to me, but she didn't really ask me any personal questions like where I was from other then why was I here in Riga. She was very pretty (half polish/quarter russian/quarter latvian) and very friendly. I'm thinking I should have asked her to show me the teashop and then tried to instantdate or try for the number again. This was a very strange interaction, her body language and facial features and enthusiasm told me yes, yet her refused my offer.

After this set I decided to go back to the mall in old town. I walked around the mall doing 3-4 rounds on each level but my AA was too much and I chickened out of approaching the few single targets that I saw. I felt like shit for not approaching more girls and went home in shame.

I freshened up a bit and then decided to do some nightgame. I pulled up google and typed in several venues but it looks like Ala folkklub was the place to be again. I arrived around 9ish and the place was semi-packed. Lots of people sitting on the tables and the big bar table was completely filled up. I make my way over to the bar area, trying to scan for targets. I spot only two blonde chicks sitting by the end being chatted up by two dudes already so I decide to station myself in the middle. While waiting for the bartender to order my drink, I notice two Asian guys turn around and kind of look at me but shyly turn away lol. I must have stood there waiting for 5 minutes before the bartender came over and took my order. Then the guy in front of me gets up and takes off somewhere, not before telling his buddy who is standing beside me to grab their food. While waiting for my drink I'm thinking fuck it, just be social and enjoy yourself even if there's not enough girls here. I open the guy right beside me, a UK fella from Wales. He tells me how he loves Canada and this and that. The two Asian guys were turning around and still looking at me lol. After the guy from Wales leaves, I I open the Asian guy sitting down right beside me. We start talking and then I grab the empty seat and lock myself in. I found out he's from Taiwan but working in Germany and is just here for a vacation is is the other Asian guy who had horrible English.

I told him that its funny out of all of the places, you end up finding three Asian guys who came here all alone lol. While talking I'm still scanning the place but there's fucking nothing, a lot of mixed sets with families sitting down by the tables. The two blondes eventually move to a table with some other guy while the two dudes they were talking to, grab a table right beside them. Needless to say I wasn't too happy about this situation. I told the fellow I would be back and went to go walk around the place to look for any targets but there was nothing but mixed sets sitting by the tables.

I return back to my seat and we resume our conversation. After another 15-20 minutes, I notice there is a light haired brunette standing idle by one of the tables behind us to my left. I tell the Asian guy beside me to go approach her since he said he doesn't have a girlfriend. He chickens out and then I say I'm going to do it. I don't approach her directly from the bar table but instead walk around to the other side and then open her.

me: Hey, you got the same drink as me, I think.
her: gives me uninterested cold look
me: is that kiss?
her: ya (still cold)
me: I think it needs a little more punch, don't you think
her: actually I think its fine
me: so where are you from?
her: Latvia
me: oh, I couldn't tell, oh wait now I notice your earnings with the Latvian symbols, no wait they look like roses.
her: no reply just a annoyed look
me: so tell me, I've noticed Latvians don't smile very often, what's the secret to making them smile more
her: I really don't know
me: well it was nice meeting you, have a good night

I eject the set. The girl was giving me attitude after attitude with her cold demeanor and I couldn't warm her up. Very little eye contact and her body wasn't even facing me.

I returned back to the guy and she just continued to chat. I do another scan but can't find anything. About 30 minutes later, he bails and I soon leave the venue.

I'm fucking really frustrated now. I'm getting nowhere here. No numbers from daygame approaches, no dates. Hell I was doing even better in Toronto. At least there I was going on dates. This is really fucking depressing...

[coverdoc]

^^ Don't be afraid to tell a girl what's on your mind. If I'm talking to a girl about directions or something and she starts to walk off you don't need to eject like that. If it happens to me I say "hold on, why are you in the middle of walking off when I'm asking you a question?" Or if I'm at the bar and some chick has a stank face, i literally ask " Why does your face have that sour look?" or my favorite: "I can tell by your look you're having a rough year huh Lord Voldemort" <-- This one usually makes 3/4 of them laugh and open up more. You are coming off a little passive in your approaches, but definitely showing improvement.

Don't be afraid of the girl, 90% of them know after 30 seconds why you are talking with them. Try exercising hard core then hitting the mall to game, usually makes me feel way more alpha in my approaches.

-CD

[kirdiesel]

That's really sucks that Ala Folkklub is only place in whole city which is busy from Monday to Thursday. Where the hell are all the students going during the week?

Are there ZERO student parties during the week?

[destiny]

(10-26-2016 08:12 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

That's really sucks that Ala Folkklub is only place in whole city which is busy from Monday to Thursday. Where the hell are all the students going during the week?

Are there ZERO student parties during the week?

My guess is they don't party at all during the week and just studying. I was hoping to look for a place where all the erasmus students hung out but so far haven't found any place like that. Most of the students that I have talked to seem to just study all week and relax on weekends.

[destiny]

Day 19: It's official, I fucking hate this place! The weather is raining and cloudy practically everyday which reduces the number of targets outside tremendously. I'm not sure if this is having an effect on my mood or not but it certainly doesn't help. The lack of single targets and speed at which the people walk is ridiculous. There is serious competition here both from the local men and tourist at all the nighttime venues but it seems most of the hooking up happens through social circle which you probably won't get inside as a foreigner unless you stay for a very long time. You need serious game to do well here. Food is expensive for a country like this, and there's nothing to fucking do here during the week. I get this whole xenophobic vibe everywhere I walk. I have yet to see a non-white couple here or even any locals mix and mingling with ethic minorities. Lastly, you will be targeted for scams like crazy here. There are all these Russian mafia owned pubs/bars/clubs near the freedom monument and everyday when I walk past it, I get approached by dudes asking me to come inside. By the windows, every single fucking day there is a chick staring at me, looking to con unsuspecting tourist.

I was walking outside earlier today but just could not do any approaches. My approach anxiety is magnified 100x with the shitty weather, grumpy looks, and speed walking. I think I maybe saw like 2 targets walking by themselves in the old town. I hit the mall and couldn't even open my mouth and I feel like the staff at the stores all recognize me now because I have been going there everyday.

The only viable option is Ala folkklub but that place is hit and miss, especially during the week. I should have just told my host to cancel my airbnb reservation during my first night here when she tried to scam me and then checked into a hostel and then booked a flight to either Poland or Estonia and said goodbye.

I'm going to head out to Ala in a few hours and try to game again, hopefully my luck turns around.

That chick who I original came here to see, texted me earlier to confirm that we are meeting tomorrow for 1-2 hours to have tea and chat. What the fuck's the point? She got a new bf and ditched me here. Unless she's willing to introduce me to her social circle and girlfriends, I think its just more attention whoring behaviour.

[kirdiesel]

The weather is just mid/northern Europe crap... Its the same where I am but you get used to it. The weather doesnt even affect my mood anymore.

Hopefully you have more luck in Poland. Is there no cafeteria or "mensa" where the students even go to eat lunch? Theres always targets in there.

Weekend and halloween is on the way.. I dont know if they celebrate much there but over here in Germany its a pretty big party weekend coming up. Try to search Facebook or ask anyone for good tips.

Alot of times Facebook suggests major events that going on in your area. Have you looked into that at all? These people gotta be going somewhere.

[destiny]

Day 19 continued:

Wow what a turn of events. I was feeling pretty shitty earlier today from not taking any action and approaching any girls. I was just completely frustrated with my situation but I said the night is still young and I should just continue to grind it out because you never know, something good just might happen.

I head on over to my favorite place to meet women Ala Folkklub. The place was busy but not quite packed. I did see several chicks but once again, they were all seated down making it very difficult to approach. I made my way over to the big bar table and saw several empty seats near two dudes. I immediately open the guy asking him if someone is sitting there. He's like I don't think so, but there's so left over food there. I said screw it and just sat down and talked to the fella. It turns out he's from Canada as well, along with his buddy on the other side. Small world. Yesterday I run into two Asian dudes and today two Canadian dudes. I found out the two Canadians are in the military and were sent here to do some military drills or something. We chatted a little bit but the conversation kind of died down when I was trying to order my drink and the bartenders were taking their sweet time.

I turn around and try to scan the restaurant. There's a bunch of people doing folk dancing out by the stage. It's mainly reserved for the local Latvians though. I don't think I ever saw a tourist be let up there to dance with the local latvian girls. Soon after I get my drink, the two Canadians take off and bid me farewell. I'm kind of lonely sitting there sipping on my drink and then I see three people take the spot of the Canadians. Two dudes and one chick. They didn't look Latvian at all. I notice one of the guys struggling to get the bartenders attention and I open him.

me: it's tough to get their attention isn't it?
him: laughs and says yes
me: maybe if you wave a 100 euro bill he will run over
him: laughs

We start talking and I find out he's Turkish and here and so are the people he's with. I genuinely try to get to know the fella because I'm bored and also because I need to work on improving my social skills to connect better with people quickly to help me when I'm talking to chicks. I'm able to immediately connect with the Turkish guy (funny how easy it is to do this with dudes but way harder with girls). The guy asks me a shit tonne of questions and the chick is leaning in and eavesdropping in on our conversation and laughing and smiling. She's about a 6.5 and has dark red lipstick. He tells me they are all from Turkey and sent her by the Turkish embassy and these are his friends and coworkers. I asked the Turkish chick later on if they were her brothers or something just to get the record straight. I soon open the Turkish chick and we start chatting as well. She's smiling as well and asking me lots of questions. The other Turkish guy says he's been living here for a few years now and has a Latvian gf here. He tells me he works in a cruiseship here in latvia as a waiter and that he "meets" lots of tourists on the cruise and tells me be careful with facebook and how he has to be careful with his as well. He then finds out that I came here alone and then tells me I made a mistake. He said I should have came with 1 more person but only 1 more. Two is the perfect number here he said lol. I scan the place once again and immediately notice the same chick who I approached last wednesday and asked her to teach me to dance as she also made eye contact with me. She's Latvian and turned me down and then walked away somewhere else last week. The look on her face told me she remembered me as she gave me the same cold look as before. We both drifted our eyes away.

The other turkish guy then tells me what I'm doing for halloween and I tell him nothing yet so he's like I'm going to go get dressed up for halloween and go to some clubs around here and he invites me to join them. I tell them sure, let's do it. Then a while later, he notices a group of girls right beside me and tells me that I should go talk to them with a huge sly grin on his face.

I turn to my left and immediately open the chick beside me whose holding the menu.

me: I recommend the meatballs.
her: oh ya?
me: its very good
her: hey, where are you from?
me: guess? I'll give you 3 tries. If you get it right I'll buy you drink, if you get it wrong then you buy me a drink
Her and all of her friends are like "woah..." and all start laughing. They try to guess and she eventually gets it right. The leader of the pack who I opened, unfortunately was fat, not attractive and had hairy arms. I would give her like a 4. I notice another shorter brunette beside her who's a lot cuter. There's also a taller brunette but her face wasn't very attractive. I had my eyes on the shorter one. I engaged both of them for a bit but then the shorter one took off, leaving me there with the fattie who was trying to order her food and drinks. We chat a bit and I found out she's from America, New York to be exact. She seems kind of into me, but I couldn't be sure. We talk for a bit, and I could see with my peripherals that the turkish chick is missing my attention as she's on my right now. She's kind of eavesdropping in on our conversation. The short brunette later returns and asks her why is she taking so long and she tells her she hasn't ordered her food yet because of the slow service. I talk a bit more with them and then return my attention back to the Turkish chick. The fatty then taps my shoulder and says bye as she takes off. As we talk, the turkish guy from earlier tells me he just got the table right in front of us and tells me to join them. I was kind of reluctant and hesitant to do that because I wanted to open more potential chicks but after having a quick scan again and seeing no targets in my vicinity I decided not to refuse his offer.

I grabbed a seat beside the turkish chick and continued to talk to her. She seemed friendly but her English wasn't very good and it was kind of loud, making verbal game difficult to employ, plus I wasn't 100% sure about her status with that turkish guy. I saw her feed him some fried potatoes with her fork so I didn't want to make a move on her if they were together out of respect for him and also so I don't cause any trouble for myself as well. They offer me some of their food but I decline. I still have my damn cold and I don't want to be putting fried potatoes into my body as I recover. The turkish guy then walks over near the dancing area and observes and then later gestures for the turkish chick to go over as well. She soon departs leaving me with the cruiseship Turkish guy. We both see two beautiful latvian chicks walk by and he looks at me and nodds his head smiling lol.

I tell him that those chicks aren't really open to dating foreigners though and he's like ya. I met my gf because I studied at the university. I decide its kind of pointless to just sit here and watch the people dance so I tell him I'm going to run to the washroom. I ditch him and go to the bathroom quickly as I scan the place. All of the chicks seem to have congregated towards the dance area watching the Latvian dudes showboat their dancing skills. I decide my time would be better spent around that area so I make my way over there. Immediately someone opens me as I stand there watching. I feel a tap on my shoulder and turn to my right. It's the blonde fatty again. We continue talking for a little bit but then she makes her way back to her table. I scan the area again and see all of the chicks standing near the stage on the sidelines while the folks dancing act like a huge barrier that you can't get through. My eyes continue scanning and I see the fat blonde chick just sitting there by herself so I make my way over to her and grab a seat by her table. We continue our chat and soon after, all of her friends return. I was like holy shit! there must have been an additional 5-6 chicks that came to sit on her table. I continue talking to the fatty and soon the short brunette as well as she joins our conversation. I found out that all of the chicks on the table are German except for the Fatty who's American.

There's another chick to my left who I soon open as she was listening in on our conversation. She just looks very plain and doesn't have any makeup on, maybe a 6. There's also a very attractive looking tall brunette facing me on the other side of the table. She looks very bored and kind of sleepy. I know who I want. The short brunette and her, but how could I get either one? I continue talking to the plain jane on my left for a bit and I could tell the fatty is eavsdropping in on our conversation and getting a little jealous of all the attention I'm giving to the other chick. Soon after, the Turkish guy returns and taps me on the shoulder. He says they're taking off to somewhere else and then we exchange facebook contact details as he soon bids me goodbye.

I return my attention back to the two chicks. The fatty is fighting for my attention and I give her a little bit but soon return back to the plain jane. The short brunette is engaged with her other friend. I get kind of bored talking to all of these chicks and kind of wonder what I should do in this situation. The tall brunette is just sitting there staring at the dance floor but she's too far away to engage and there's no seats neither. I kind see the fat chick staring at the stage as well, hoping I would ask her to dance but I'm not interested in her at all. I want the two brunettes but remembering what happened the other night when I got greedy with the Swiss chick and abandoned the Italian girl, I decided it wasn't worth the risk so I stuck to talking with the German plain jane on my left. Also the tall brunette got approached by a Latvian dude soon after who asked her to ask. wtf! This chick literally jumped right out of her seat and ran to the guy's extended hand as he lead her to the dance floor. The plane jane now started to look at the dance as well and tried to keep the conversation going by asking me boring as questions. She starts mentioning the dance and how she wants to go dance up there. After I while, I said fuck it, I'm fucking bored of listening to her talk so I said "let's go up and dance." She's like "can we?". I'm like "sure" and lead her up to the dance floor. All those Latvian dudes and chicks were looking at me as I budded into their folk dance with the german chick in toll. Ya man, fuck you and your cockblocks. These Latvian dudes keep all the Latvian chicks to themselves and then go poaching all the foreign chicks who stand oogling at their dance moves. They don't bother to invite or help any of the foreign guys to go up there and dance and enjoy themselves. It's like one big fucking cliquey social dance reserved for Latvians.

As soon as I did that, some of the other foreign men started to go up there with girls and dance as well. Good, now it ain't reserved for just Latvian guys dancing anymore. I obviously don't know what the fuck I'm doing up there with their folk dance as I desperately try to mimic and keep up with the dance but the German chick seems satisfied with my lousy dance moves. I can't even count the number of feet that I stepped on or the shoulders and back that I bumped into while attempting this dance but who the fuck cares! As the dance finishes, I lead the German chick bad. I got some kino in there at least and it beats fucking listening to her yap me to death.

The fatty looks jealous and then returns back to the talking to the short brunette. I continue my conversation with the plain jane and soon after the fatty goes up there with the short brunette as her dance partner. They return later as I was sitting there contemplating whether or not to ask the fatty for her facebook, but it was really really hard to push myself to do it because I was absolutely not attracted to her and I wondered if she would even invite her cute friends to come out if I asked her to hang out. The fatty soon asks me for my facebook (gee that was really easy). and then is like when are you leaving? I tell her next week and she is like ya, just message me if you want to hang out. She was totally dtf but I don't think I can stomach dumpster diving. I made out with a one fatty one time at a club and I nearly threw up. Asking me to nail one, is going to be an even tougher pill to swallow.

I then contemplated whether or not I should ask the plane jane for her facebook or number. I remembered back to that night again with the Swiss chick and also figured due to my lack of experience that I should just do it for the experience. She sure beats the fatty. After thinking for a bit I asked the plane jane what she was doing tomorrow? She told me earlier that she's flying out on Friday. She's like nothing really so I'm like ok let's hangout tomorrow evening then. She's like ok let's exchange contact info. I pull out my phone but the fucking wifi and data isn't working down there. I ask her to try on hers and it works but is extremely slow. She adds me on facebook and then soon after the fatty tells me she's leaving with the short brunette and is like again "ya, just message me if you want to hang out." lol. The short brunette then gives me a hug and asks me when I'm leaving. I tell her next week on friday or saturday and then I'm like maybe we can hangout before I leave and she's like ya and then I ask for her facebook. My data isn't working so I just note down her name on the memo app. I return my attention back to the German chick and this point and I'm thinking shit maybe I should have tried to pull her instead tonight instead. I'm thinking I should ask her to if she wants to go grab a drink somewhere else (Kwakinn where I escalate physically) and then try to bounce to my place but I end up chickening out. I never tried to pull a chick to my place in the same night as meeting her before.

After talking and sitting there a bit longer I said fuck it, I can't take this shit any longer so I tell place my hand on her shoulder and tell her I'm taking off. I give her a hug like how Canadians do it with close friends but then suddenly I notice she kind of sticks her cheeks out and it was kind of awkward because I wasn't prepared to give her a kiss on the cheeks, just a normal hug lol. She kind of laughs and then says "well that was awkard." I tell her that we don't normally do that in Canada and that I thought it was a French thing. We try again and this chick literally rams her cheeks into my lips lol. I'm sitting there thinking this chick might also be dtf, especially since she's flying out to Estonia in two days.

I soon leave and decide to check out French bar, which according to google is supposed to be really busy at 12am. I head on over there and walk through the doors and then some dude who I'm not sure was drunk or not or was the owner told me to close the door shut. I tried to close it shut and it was fucking shut but his guy is like it's not shut. He then walks up and tries to close it and ends up getting the same result as me and then just tells me to go down. I do a quick scan and see nothing but a bunch of Russian dudes so I turn around and walk out as he walks down. What a bust!

Well well well... I wasn't expecting this evening to turn out like that. I got 3 facebook closes + 1 dude's facebook too lol. Comparing the amount of game required and difficulty of Latvians/Russians to foreigners is like night and day. I heard American chicks were easy but didn't think they would be this easy and it seems Germans are also very open to other ethnicities. Man, why the fuck did I come here? I could have gone somewhere nicer, had a better time, and even had much better luck with the local women then here.

I think I made a few mistakes though. I was thinking at that time because of all these foreigners trying and stuff that they wouldn't have a local sim, but I should have just asked for their whatsapp number instead. I can see now that adding all the chicks that you want to hook up with on facebook can cause problems later down the line. I'm going to try and shoot for the whatsapp number in the future. Also I should have made specific plans with the chick for tomorrow instead of being vague about it. I should have said this time and at this place tomorrow, none of this wish-washy shit. The only thing I would then need to do is just shoot her a text like an hour before I leave to make sure she doesn't flake on me by saying "I might be a few minutes later today." Now I need to play a little bit of phone tag with her. Lastly, I'm not sure if this was a mistake or not since she was with her group of friends, but I get the feeling maybe I should always try to move a chick to another location and then back home to go for the home run. Chicks feelings and emotions change all the time and she might refuse later on.

Tomorrow's definitely going to be an interesting day. First I'm meeting up with the chick who I stupidly flew thousands of miles to see who pretty much threw me under the bus by telling me two days before I flew out that she just met a guy and now he's her new bf. I don't know the proper way of handling this meeting with her. It's a strange meeting. She wants to go hang out to drink tea and talk for 1-2 hours. I don't even know of any places that are specifically serving tea so she might try to lead and show me some close which might make escalating difficult. Also I don't even know if I should be escalating or her or not since she has a new bf or just play it cool and hold back hoping she might introduce me to her friends.

Secondly, I potentially have a date with that German chick from tonight. I've never really done this before so I'm kind of going in this blind with the exception of reading about this stuff online. Meet the chick somewhere close by, take her to a bar/pub, etc, then propose you guys go back to your place to watch a movie or show her some photos or some other bullshit. This chick is boring too so I don't even know if I can even keep the date fun and interesting long enough to pull her to my apartment.

I thought about doing daygame tomorrow but now after what happened, I don't think I'm going to have the energy. On the plus side, if the first chick flakes, I have a backup, and I also intend to go out to Ala Folkklub if the second chick flakes. Hopefully there is a silver lining tomorrow.

[destiny]

(10-26-2016 01:47 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

The weather is just mid/northern Europe crap... Its the same where I am but you get used to it. The weather doesnt even affect my mood anymore.

Hopefully you have more luck in Poland. Is there no cafeteria or "mensa" where the students even go to eat lunch? Theres always targets in there.

Weekend and halloween is on the way.. I dont know if they celebrate much there but over here in Germany its a pretty big party weekend coming up. Try to search Facebook or ask anyone for good tips.

Alot of times Facebook suggests major events that going on in your area. Have you looked into that at all? These people gotta be going somewhere.

I haven't asked. I'll ask some erasmus students next time I meet some.

I think I'm going to go out on the halloween weekend with the Turkish guy and his two friends. He said he loves to go clubbing. Same with the chick and the other dude. I would bet that they know the better clubbing places to go for Halloween then me.

I also checked on the erasmus student's union page, there's apparently some party on Friday near the docks near my apartment. It's like 5 euros cover but I don't know how much people are going to be there though. I'll go with the Turks first and see what places he picks to go to, if they all suck then I'll tell them to come to the place where this Erasmus halloween event is taking place.

[destiny]

Day 20:

Just when I thought I could turn things around, the waves come crashing down on me again. The chick who I facebook from yesterday that said she was down to meet up tells me this after I ask her to hang out later tonight "I'm going to talk to the friend I'm staying with, as I am not sure about his plans yet". You can cross her off of my list. The other chick who I was supposed to meet up kept on trying to change the time by from 5-6 to 6 to 5:30 and then 5. I told her after her third attempt that I was busy earlier and maybe we should meet another time if she was too busy today. This put her in check and she agreed to meet at 5:30pm.

I thought I would come a little earlier to do a little daygame as warmup before I would meetup with her. I walked around the mall and immediately open one chick walking really fast.

me: excuse me, do you know where I can buy a halloween costume around here?
her: hmm...halloween costume? umm... I don't know
me: ya, a halloween costume for this weekend, I'm going to a halloween party
her: umm... no sorry and walks away

I immediately open another chick a few minutes later with the same opener. She walks away after telling me no sorry. I can quickly feel the anxiety building up inside of me and the longer I postpone or rather being able to find any single targets the bigger it gets. Finally walking around for several minutes I open a chick walking by herself. She tells me no but she expresses some interest in the conversation and doesn't immediately eject, I throw in a joke that I could put a bag over my head and cut out holes if I can't find a costume which gets her laughing. She seemed kind of engaged but I had literally like 5 minutes before I'm suppose to meet the other chick so I thank her and eject.

She had texted me several minutes ago saying she was here already and to just text her when I arrived. I text her back and then make my way down to the area where we're supposed to meet. We soon meet. She's obviously attractive and comes right up and gives me a hug but something is immediately off. I get this friendship type of vibe from her. She asks me where do we want to go, so knowing that I need to lead, I say to her "you wanted to go have some tea right? I know place around here where we can go but I'm not sure if its a teashop though. its more like cafe." She agrees so I lead the way.

We sit down and then she makes a comment that the waiters should stop by soon because she's a pretty girl and there's a lot of men there. We talk for a little bit and then I go up to the bartender and grab the drink menu but she soons walks up and orders a tea, leaving me a little confused. I also order a tea and then I decide to sit down right beside her, not opposite of her. We start chatting and she's asking me a shit tonne of questions and appears very friendly and enthusiastic. Quite a difference from all the other Latvians I have spoken to. I'm of course a little nervous but still try to hold my frame. She's seems happy and is laughing at my jokes but I'm not feeling the sexual tension there. I try to kino here but still don't feel anything. We spent about 1.5 hours talking and she and me seem to have a lot in common and in agreement with things but I don't feel a sexual connection. After 1.5 hrs we leave and as I go to pay the bill, she is like I'll pay for my half (ouch). I'm like it's alright and I pay for hers. We walk a little and then she gives me a hug and takes off. While standing there by the tram stop the only thing I could think about was this was the chick you flew thousands of miles for but there was no connection. I was feeling like crap as I waited for my tram to come by.

I've taken a little break and tried to carefully analyze the situation. I've actually been in this situation before 2 years ago with my then oneitis. All of the sexual tension and energy was gone when I went out on a date with her. When I used to be able to talk a lot with her suddenly I found myself not able to think up what to say next. There was no plausible reason why I shouldn't have had a really good connection with that chick today, we have similar outlooks and hobbies. Hell we even ordered the same drinks and I didn't know what she ordered because she spoke Russian. I'm starting to think my problem goes much deeper then this. I think its a psychological problem due to something I would prefer to share in private with some of the members if they would like to hear more about. I don't think I'll be getting very far with women until this issue is fixed. I think its manifesting itself subconsciously somehow, which is probably making me give off a friend vibe instead of a sexy I want to fuck you vibe to the girls I go out with.

I guess this date with that girl wasn't totally in vain. She made me realize this is something fundamentally wrong with my psyche. Now I just need to figure out how to radicate this problelm out of my psyche which is sabotaging me.

[kirdiesel]

Step by step my man. We all have demons we struggle with... I been in the game a long time myself and still make mistakes.

I think it was fantastic you spent 1.5 hours talking. Thats a long time to have nothing to say.

I'm not a day game expert (im more a night game guy) but I think maybe you stayed too long. I would have changed the location after about 45 minutes or so.. It can get mundane sitting the same chair for 1.5 hour. A conversation with anyone would start to drag. Going from my gut I think I would have bounced her to a happy hour place since its 6pm or so and get some drinks pouring.

Hopefully coverdoc will chime in as this is more his area.

[coverdoc]

I'll PM you bro.

-CD

[destiny]

(10-27-2016 01:04 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Step by step my man. We all have demons we struggle with... I been in the game a long time myself and still make mistakes.

I think it was fantastic you spent 1.5 hours talking. Thats a long time to have nothing to say.

I'm not a day game expert (im more a night game guy) but I think maybe you stayed too long. I would have changed the location after about 45 minutes or so.. It can get mundane sitting the same chair for 1.5 hour. A conversation with anyone would start to drag. Going from my gut I think I would have bounced her to a happy hour place since its 6pm or so and get some drinks pouring.

Hopefully coverdoc will chime in as this is more his area.

Ya I was thinking about inviting her to my place but I couldn't project the sexual vibe and physical escalation needed to do it. She did most of the talking maybe like 75-80% that's why it was 1.5 hours but I mean its still really good that it lasted that long with her just because of the commonalities and similarities we need with our mindset. If it was with some other chicks, I'm sure the conversation would have died after 15 minutes. The girl also gave me a little present after our "date" a little bag with some long latvian chocolate or candy. I don't the date was inherently awful or anything but it had too much of a platonic friend vibe to it instead of a lover vibe, I didn't like it.

[destiny]

Day 20 continued...

So after that very disappointing date with the girl, I soon received a facebook message from the other chick who I was supposed to meet up with. She said she changed her mind and wants to go have dinner with her guy friend instead. Double whammy.

I freshened up and then decided to grind it out yet again at Ala Folkklub. The place was very pack today as expected. No seats were available but I did notice a large number of young women today. I made my way over to the large bar table and got in between two people as I tried to order my drink. There's a guy to my left and some ugly looking girl to my right who has her back turned against me. Me and the guy make brief eye contact but then he shifts his eyes away. I stand there for a while as I wait for the bartender to take my order. They finally take it and I order a light beer. The dude brings one of the most foul and disgusting tasting beers that I have ever put my mouth. I couldn't finish that shit.

My realization and epiphany from earlier was having a dampening effect on my mood and I wasn't really in the mood to approach anymore girls or talk to anyone for that matter. I continue to sip my beer and after about 5 minutes I open the guy to my left and ask him about his beer. He gives me a short answers but then all of a sudden his gf comes out of nowhere and starts talking to him. So now I'm stuck there with nothing to do. I decide to transition to another spot. I see an empty seat in front and I slowly make my way over. I see a girl leaning up against her bf who's sitting on one of the chairs but she isn't sitting on the empty seat. I figured someone was already using it but I needed to keep my social energy up. There's an old man beside the empty seat on the right. I ask him about the seat and he says its already occupied as predicted. So now I just kind of stand there and lingering with the beer in my hand as I watch the performance on stage. There's two girls to my left but I don't approach them. After standing there for 10 minutes I decide to go back to my original spot. I open the guy again and tell him about who shitty my beer is. He takes a sip and makes a disgusted face. His gf grabs my beer and also takes a sip and is disgusted saying it's not beer lol. There's also two girls beside his gf as one who leans in to see what all the fuss is about. One of them takes a sip and is disgusted as well. Then all of a sudden, the bartender hands the bf several beers and he's like this one is for you. Wow, what a nice guy. Probably one of the first Latvian dudes who's been cool with me. His English is really bad but since he bought me a beer I can't complain. I now start talking to his gf and then the other two chicks. One of them is her sister while the shorter blonde is from England. The guy's gf is a huge chatterbox and we talk for a while. She tells me that people here in Latvia aren't very friendly and that they are very racist, especially against blacks and arabs. She says she hates how racist they are because she used to date some palestinian dude and has Syrian friends but doesn't like all the anti-migrant hate in Latvia.

We have a nice conversation going on while each one of the four come and go. Then all of a sudden I hear some really loud noises from behind me. There's several drunk brits standing behind me causing a lot of trouble. One guy is like trying to shove me to the side so he can order. He's like can I get in here. There's like no space and I tell him if he can fit then he's more then welcome. The girls who I was talking to roll their eyes and the group looks annoyed as do I. The brits start touching me from behind and acting stupid and shit but I just roll it off and try to act like it doesn't get to me. One of them starts massaging my neck and back and says they are just kidding with me and having fun. I kind of mingle with the least drunk one out of the bunch while the other idiots start tickling me and playing with my hair. I found out they are their for a stag party (of course). They start yelling and screaming at the bartenders while all the bartenders ignore them. This shit goes on for several minutes. I turn to the same british dude I spoke to before and tell him, he can try to go to the smaller bar just through the doors but he thinks I'm just trying to get rid of him, as do his friends. This shit continues for another 5-10 minutes with these idiots screaming and yelling and pissing everyone off. Then one of the bartenders finally gets fed up and tries to take their order. She takes it and starts making the drinks but then the stag group starts walking away and leaving the area. She has now finished making the drinks and tries to go after the guys but couldn't find them. She comes back looking pissed.

The british girl leans into me and says she apologizes for their behaviour and we start talking about about stag parties. Then after the british stag idiots left, two girls walked right up to the bar table to my left and start ordering drinks. I immediately open a tall Latvian Brunette. She seems to kind of dig my vibe. We start chatting and she tells me she just came back from Japan and tells me how much she loves it there. I then accuse her of having a thing for Japanese guys, which seems to elevate her interest as she gives me this flirty surprised look which I return. I can now sense that sexual vibe that I wanted to have earlier with that other chick. I give her this look like I want to take her and make her mine and we kind of hold eye contact for a second. It literally made me just want to grab her hand and pull her in to me. Very strange but powerful feeling. I ask for her name and introduce myself. She gives me a very firm handshake which I don't remember if she squeezed my hand or not but that obviously was a sign of interest. After getting her drinks she bids me goodbye and takes off. She wasn't that attractive looking but seeing the situation I'm currently in, I can't be picky. I should have tried to watch where she went because I never saw her again. Looking back I should have gone right up to her and tried to grab her number. I'm sure she would have given it to me even if she tried to play a little hard to get. I kind of lost motivation at that point to do any approaches or follow up with chicks. It was like the fire and drive has been completely put out since coming to my earlier revelation. I honestly didn't feel like talking to anymore people and just wanted to wallow in self pity, not knowing how to solve my predicament.

Soon after she leaves, a short blonde rolls up to my left to order her drinks. I immediately open her as well. She also seems very friendly and we talk for a bit. She also leaves after getting her drinks. I kind of talk with the four friends from earlier on and off. I open another 3 chicks who stop by, with the last one being the hottest but least receptive. At this point, I'm thinking what should I do? Should I just quit and throw in the towel and head home because obviously I'm just going to fuck things up again or should I just stay and try to plow through. As I'm contemplating this decision, the short blonde tells the girls that she has digs one of the dudes sitting down on a table. She gets one of her friends to write her name and number down. I kind of stop paying attention to them at this point and just scan around. I see one other dude approach two girls but get shot down and just grabs a seat and start talking to some dudes.

When I return my focus to the four friends, all of sudden I see some british guy who looks like George Michael's Doppleganger. I wondered if he was also gay or not while sitting there. My focus soon shifted back to my decision as I sat there sipping my beer wondering how the hell am I going to fix this underlying problem that is preventing me from being successful with women. Soon after the four friends start getting dressed. I ask them if they are leaning and the guy's gf is like yeah, we are going to go get something to eat and she invites me to come with them. I'm still trying to decide if I should have stayed or gone with them but in the end I decide to join them. The two chicks (sister and british chick) are clearly drunk at this point, screaming and yelling out as they dance and laugh on the streets. They go to some shitty diner in the old town and we just kind of sit down and eat and talk for a bit. At this point, I just want to leave and kind of still feeling really down with how everything has been going so far.

We finish eating and they call a taxi. They offer to call me one but I say its alright I'll walk home. They give me a hug and then say they are going clubbing tomorrow and invite me to join them. One of the sister's gives me her what's number and I text her my number. She gives me a hug, gets in the cab and then all take off.

Wow, who knew how easy it would be to get into a Latvian social circle. All you need to do is just chat up some drunk Latvians and then just stick around with them.

Now I need to decide if I want to hang out with the Turks tomorrow or the Latvians. I also know that Ala is going to be packed tomorrow as well so I don't know if I should come here for predrinking first or not.

Then there's also that underlying issue I have now discovered that is really holding me back. I need to figure out how to fix it before its too late. I was also able to finally unleash that sexual vibe that I have always wanted to but it was only for a very brief moment. I need to figure out how to bring that to surface more often. I could totally see how the girl suddenly looked at me more differently after that comment I made and how I looked at her immediately afterwards.

[destiny]

Day 21:


Today I created an okcupid account since my tinder, badoo hasn't gotten me anywhere. I used to have an okcupid account but then couldn't login anymore. I would always get the message "technical difficulties." I read on the internet it means your account has been banned which was kind of stupid since I didn't do anything. Anyways, I decided to try my luck again. I uploaded my pictures and write up my profile and started to message chicks. My only criteria was that she wasn't fat and not hideous or one of those pink/purple hair colored, tattoed, piercing weirdos and if I was willing to sleep with her. I spent several hours messaging chicks and only got 7 visitors which is extremely low. Out of that I only got 4 replies. One was some hippy chick with a boy haircut and wearing glasses. She said their are other sites for dating (wtf?) and this wasn't the place for it and then stopped replying to me when I asked for her number. Another decent looking chick stopped replying after sending me one message saying I made her smile. Another average chick stopped messaging me after thanking me for my previous message. One chick who I didn't message, messaged me. She had red curly hair, an average face. Definitely not my type and was a 5.5 at best from her pics. Nonetheless I was willing to make the short term sacrifices in order to get the long term rewards even if I'm not feeling this chick.

After a few messages back and forth, I asked for her number and she promptly asked to hang out before I got the chance to ask. I now have a date lined up for tomorrow early evening. I scheduled it at 7:30 so if I can't get her back to my place I can at least hang out in the old town to do some nightgame. I would appreciate some help with getting her to my place. I heard that I shouldn't try to kiss her at the venue because then it kills the sexual tension but should save it for when I get her back to my place. I wonder if just saying "hey, lets go back to my place to watch a movie or something? I have this amazing tv box with over 700 Latvian channels. I'm getting kind of bored here." would be sufficient? Maybe spend like 30-45 minutes at the bar and then make that suggestion and grab a taxi and head home. I hope I can seal the deal with this chick and also line up dates with several others because I only have 1 week left here.

After I took care of this business, I wanted to conserve my energy for nightgame tonight since its friday. I skipped daygame so I could try to kill it at nightgame but all of my plans got ruined. This is why I hate going out with people.

I headed down to Ala folkklub to do some predrinking first. The place wasn't that packed but was a total sausagefest. What the hell happened? Where the hell did all the young Latvian girls go today? I found myself a spot in the middle of the big bar table and ordered a beer. I saw two people on either side of me but they had their backs turned and were engaging someone else so I didn't want to interrupt. I had spoken to the turkish guy earlier about partying today. He said he would arrive at some bar to predrink first around 10pm and then we would meetup. I drank half of my beer and seeing that things weren't going so well decided to move to a different spot by the bar. I grabbed a seat between two people but again they were engaging their friends. I also messaged the Latvian group about where they were going to party but didn't receive a message until later the night. My approach anxiety started to creep up again the longer I postponed talking to anyone but both of the people were already talking and had their backs facing me. The turk messaged me back after a while saying the bar they went to was shit so they were going somewhere else and asked to meet me there. I said I'll be right over as soon as I finished my beer. I finally mustered up the courage and tried to open the girl on my left but her back was facing me. I tried again, but she couldn't hear me so I said screw it and tapped her on the shoulder. She wasn't good looking and her friend looked even worse like a post wall victim.

me: do you know any good busy places to go tonight?
her: umm...
me: it's the halloween weekend
her: laughs with her friend. "I know but Latvians don't really celebrate halloween."
me: facepalm
her and her friend: laugh
her: you can try blah blah blah
me: I already walked by there
her: but its still early

The bartender hands them their drinks and they soon resume talking amongst themselves. I quickly finished my beer and decided to head out to meet the Turks. While walking over to meet the Turk, the Latvian group messaged me back saying they are pre-drinking at their father's studio and would head out later. They said I could come to their studio or meetup later. Since I was already going to go meetup with the Turks, I said I'll meet them later in the old town. I had some trouble finding the place, but then the turk said he was going somewhere else but when they got there, he said the place was also shit. It was devoid of people but said to come meet him there anyways. I type the place into my cell and then discover its near my apartment. It's the Erasmus halloween party. Wtf, you should have told me earlier so I didn't have to come all the way to the old town. Anyways, he says ok now more people are coming in and to just come. I quickly make my way to the tram and get on it, but right before I arrive to my apartment, he messages me saying they are leaving. His friend doesn't like the place because it's crap. I'm like dude, I'm almost there and he's like she already called the cab and that they aren't in a party mood anymore. It was ruined by this place and that they are going home. I just arrived back at my flat when he told me this. I needed to recharge my phone because of the battery life and was going to walk there. Fuck!
The tram wasn't operating anymore at this time so I couldn't get back downtown without having to pay for a taxi and then paying again for another taxi to come back home.

I also mentioned this place to the Latvian group and they said they never heard of it but that they would head downtown in like half an hour or so. I never heard back from them again. At this point, I was kind of tired and exhausted from trying to look for these places to meet with this people and my mood was ruined too. I didn't want to spend anymore time and money going all the way back to the old town. I considered going to the erasmus party anyways but its 5 euros cover and I don't want to spend it only to come to an empty party so I said screw it. This was fucking bullshit! Both groups ruined my evening and prevented me from doing nightgame. The turk wants to meetup tomorrow. If my date ends up not working out then I might consider it if he brings along that turkish chick too otherwise fuck it. I'm just sticking to gaming solo. I wouldn't have had to deal with this bullshit if I had just stuck to own my guns.

[kirdiesel]

Just go out by yourself already man. Jesus. Havent you had enough yet?

[destiny]

Day 22: Fuck, my date cancelled last minute. Fuck me!

I can't seem to get any chicks out on a date here.